11 Months...

[Raza]

Okay, so I'm running low on time here.  Less than 11 months left; I could move as early as 8-9 months from now. 

I want to know what you guys think I should look at in the new car segment.  Please consider prices when you make a decision. 

Remember, I was looking at 30mpg under old EPA, practical, and it has to handle 25-30k miles per year.  Reliability is not that big a concern, though, so don't read too much into that. 

All cars fit the bill except for the MS3, which is under the gas mileage requirement, but not so much that it would make such a huge deal; it's 28, as I recall. 

Please, please post your logic when you vote!  I need help. 

[Eye of the Tiger]

Si sedan.

VW's suck. 

[JYODER240]

GTI, can't say that it's better or worse than the others, I just find it more appealing.

[Eye of the Tiger]

Or Si coupe. Either way, you know you want it. K20 FTW.

[ifcar]

Of those, I guess the Rabbit. Why not a Mazda 3s sedan or hatch?

[Eye of the Tiger]

I like the Rabbit, but if I was going to consider the GTI... well, I wouldn't because I think would rather have the Civic Si.

What do you prefer, a big flat powerband where you can just floor it and go from any gear or would you rather downshift it an feel the power build as wind it out to 8,000rpms? Do you want a VW just because it's a VW, or are you willing to put brand biases aside? NObody can answer that except for you.

The GTI has more cargo space, it can keep up with the Si in a straight line, and fuel economy is about the same, ok... but, the Si handles better, is lighter, costs less, and with it's high strung powertrain, the Si would be more involving... and I know that is your absolute favourite word to use when judging a car, so if you pick the GTI over the Si, you will never live it down.

You've driven the Si. Now go drive the GTI. Then drive the Si again. Then go drive the MS3 and see if you really care that much about fuel economy. Then drive a Suzuki Reno. Then drive the Si again and buy it.

[Danish]

Suzuki Reno

Two of them

[footoflead]

I like the Rabbit, but if I was going to consider the GTI... well, I wouldn't because I think would rather have the Civic Si.

What do you prefer, a big flat powerband where you can just floor it and go from any gear or would you rather downshift it an feel the power build as wind it out to 8,000rpms? Do you want a VW just because it's a VW, or are you willing to put brand biases aside? NObody can answer that except for you.

The GTI has more cargo space, it can keep up with the Si in a straight line, and fuel economy is about the same, ok... but, the Si handles better, is lighter, costs less, and with it's high strung powertrain, the Si would be more involving... and I know that is your absolute favourite word to use when judging a car, so if you pick the GTI over the Si, you will never live it down.

You've driven the Si. Now go drive the GTI. Then drive the Si again. Then go drive the MS3 and see if you really care that much about fuel economy. Then drive a Suzuki Reno. Then drive the Si again and buy it.

Dude, are you trying to become a troll. 
If so you are sucking hardcore at it

[Eye of the Tiger]

Dude, are you trying to become a troll. 
If so you are sucking hardcore at it

It's all about the V-TAK, yo! 

[The Pirate]

Pontiac GTO

[J86]

ONLY 11 months?  Jesus, dude....

Is the Mazda a hatch or sedan?  If hatch, that or the GTI, I'd hafta drive them both...  Those are by far the most appealing to me.  Two of my friends have 3s, and I love them both.

[Danish]

The MS3 is a hatch

[Raghavan]

Si Sedan...
Since it's your practical car i said sedan, but I'd probably take the coupe if i were buying...
Either way it's cheaper than the GTI and MS3, the MS3 has too much power for an FWD car, and the Rabbit with a few suspension upgrades would be a good second choice, but if you're considering a 2 door Civic i'd consider a 3 door Rabbit.

[TheIntrepid]

GTI

[Eye of the Tiger]

GTI

troll 

[TheIntrepid]

troll 

I own a GTI?

[Eye of the Tiger]

I own a GTI?

No, you just hate Hondas.

[TheIntrepid]

No, you just hate Hondas.

This man speaks the truth.

[Eye of the Tiger]

This man speaks the truth.

And you have no good reason for it, although your obscene love of Toyota partially explains it.

[TheIntrepid]

And you have no good reason for it, although your obscene love of Toyota partially explains it.

*nods*

[Raghavan]

*nods*

Stop trying to copy Omi.

[Minpin]

Stop trying to copy Omi.

+1. The my dears get quite annoying coming from trep..only omi can do shit like that,



To raza: I went with Si Coupe for the reason that I think it is reasonably practical and looks way better than the 4 door (IMO). I just can't stand the proportions on the 4 door. But I may be a bit biased because if you put the si coupe to my car the look pretty similiar. Have you driven the tC? It is way cheaper than the SI for the a little but less performance if I recall correctly.

[TheIntrepid]

Stop trying to copy Omi.

The *wave* is Omi's.

+1. The my dears get quite annoying coming from trep..only omi can do shit like that,

Sorry to disappoint you, my dear.

[sandertheshark]

I hate VWs and all FWD Hondas (except ITRs.)

Speed3.

[93JC]

Give it a test drive, at least.

[sandertheshark]

^^^Oh hells yeah.  Specially if they come out with a redline in the next 11 months.  (they will.)

[Raghavan]

The *wave* is Omi's.


Sorry to disappoint you, my dear.

Omi does the *nods* thing too.

[Champ]

the Si would be more involving

If by involving, you mean "I have to downshift everytime I pass because there is no torque," then by definition, yes. 

the MS3 has too much power for an FWD car

Never have I heard someone complain about too much power!  Crazy.  Well I suppose Raza complains about it too.

The cool part about having a throttle that can be at any position means that you don't need to use all the power in first and second gear, but by third when you get traction you have more than the other two.  And you win.

I'd pick MS3, then GTI then SI.  But the GTI is pretty close to the MS3, I suppose I'd need a good amount of test drives to decide.

[Pancor]

Miata!

[Submariner]

F-15 fighter jet!