So my motor died...

Started by sportyaccordy, January 17, 2009, 09:25:30 PM

Cookie Monster

Quote from: MX793 on January 28, 2009, 07:27:25 PM
When you're used to and want something quicker, 7 is too slow.  And I don't think they even ran 7 flat.  IIRC, they were around a 7.3 second car to 60.
I've always wondered how people have the room and place to run their cars WOT all the way to  60 mph to consider 7 seconds too slow. :huh:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Soup DeVille

I've heard lots of people claim that their swapped Civic/ITR or Accord/Prelude hybrid "runs 13s on pump gas," or similar claims. When I owned the S2000 (which attracted such cars like flies to honey), I ran a few of them too. None of them were ever near as fast as they claimed to be.

That's not saying that they don't exist, that's just saying what I've seen.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Soup DeVille

Quote from: thecarnut on January 28, 2009, 07:28:33 PM
I've always wondered how people have the room and place to run their cars WOT all the way to  60 mph to consider 7 seconds too slow. :huh:

Funny thing about that: the faster your car is, the less room it takes to get to 60.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Cookie Monster

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:32:22 PM
Funny thing about that: the faster your car is, the less room it takes to get to 60.
:lol:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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MX793

Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2009, 07:26:09 PM

SVT Focus = 2700lbs

1990-1993 Accord = 3200lbs


SVT Focus = 175HP

Accord = 130HP stock, his is around 140 maybe? Also factor in the loss from his Automatic transmission.

SVTF was 170, not 175. 

And a early 90s Accord was under 3000 lbs.  And I suspect he's got much closer to 200 hp under hood (and a stick, IIRC).
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2o6

Quote from: thecarnut on January 28, 2009, 07:27:11 PM
Accord = 200HP H22 Prelude motor + manual transmission.

He didn't do the swap. If so, doing the swap would be pointless since he's decided to buy a more expensive car.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2009, 07:34:25 PM
He didn't do the swap. If so, doing the swap would be pointless since he's decided to buy a more expensive car.
He did do the swap...
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
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Soup DeVille

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Cookie Monster

RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

280Z Turbo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:32:22 PM
Funny thing about that: the faster your car is, the less room it takes to get to 60.

Bullshit, asshole.

Prove it to me in the form of a differential equation.

2o6

Quote from: thecarnut on January 28, 2009, 07:37:52 PM
He did do the swap...

He did? I didn't read anything.............

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 28, 2009, 07:39:30 PM
Bullshit, asshole.

Prove it to me in the form of a differential equation.
It makes sense. :huh:
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2009, 07:39:59 PM
He did? I didn't read anything.............
He bought the car in the first place to do the swap.
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 28, 2009, 07:39:30 PM
Bullshit, asshole.

Prove it to me in the form of a differential equation.

X  = .5(Vo + V)t

as t decreases, so does x proportionately.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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2o6

Quote from: sportyaccordy on January 18, 2009, 03:02:22 PM
Thinking about it... I could have this car running again for very very very cheap. To put in another Prelude motor and keep the car for any extended period of time would be the definition of insanity. I'm just trying to think of the benefits to keeping this car... I can't think of one. IDK man

No he didn't...............it was his daily driver until the motor blew.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: 2o6 on January 28, 2009, 07:41:45 PM
No he didn't...............it was his daily driver until the motor blew.
To put in ANOTHER Prelude motor... :huh:
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

Soup DeVille

Quote from: thecarnut on January 28, 2009, 07:46:24 PM
To put in ANOTHER Prelude motor... :huh:

I'm not sure that really counts as a swap then.
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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2o6

Quote from: thecarnut on January 28, 2009, 07:46:24 PM
To put in ANOTHER Prelude motor... :huh:


I cannot read.




Still, speed isn't always everything.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:47:02 PM
I'm not sure that really counts as a swap then.
He already put did the swap and put one in, and that Prelude motor died on him. He was talking about replacing the busted Prelude motor with ANOTHER Prelude motor.
RWD > FWD
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Quote from: 68_427 on November 27, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Or order from fortune auto and when lyft rider asks why your car feels bumpy you can show them the dyno curve
1 3 5
├┼┤
2 4 R

280Z Turbo


MX793

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:41:37 PM
X  = .5(Vo + V)t

as t decreases, so does x proportionately.

a*t = Vf - Vi, not +
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Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on January 28, 2009, 07:50:53 PM
a = Vf - Vi, not +

Vf= Velocity final.

Vo =velocity original.

because velocities are vectors and not scalars, they may be expressed as negatives also, so the standard form is Vo+V

Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Soup DeVille

Quote from: 280Z Turbo on January 28, 2009, 07:53:49 PM
dx/dt = v(t)

dv/dt = a(t)

Do you want to unecessarily complicate it or do you want an equation you can work with easily?
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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S204STi

I've been in stripped down Hondas with JDM sumpinorothers swapped in them making all kinds of power on paper, and they aren't that quick IMHO.

MX793

#115
Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:52:41 PM
Vf= Velocity final.

Vo =velocity original.

because velocities are vectors and not scalars, they may be expressed as negatives also, so the standard form is Vo+V




From a dead stop (constant acceleration),

x = 0.5 * a * t^2
a = (Vf - Vi)/t

x = 0.5 * (Vf - Vi) * t

Vectors do indeed have positives and negatives depending on your coordinate system.  And in this case, we're really dealing with speeds and not proper vectors anyway.
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280Z Turbo

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 07:55:35 PM
Do you want to unecessarily complicate it or do you want an equation you can work with easily?

Let's make it unescessarily complicated...just like my first Physics II prof. :lol:

I'm pretty sure that 99% of what I'm learning in Calc 4 could be modeled with much simpler equations.

Fellas, I was joking!

Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on January 28, 2009, 07:56:30 PM
Wha?

From a dead stop (constant acceleration),

x = 0.5 * a * t^2
a = (Vf - Vi)/t

x = 0.5 * (Vf - Vi) * t

Your variablles: Vi (initial)= 0, Vf(final)=60

My variables: V0 (original)=0, V=60

60-0=60

0+60=60

How the fuck is this confusing you?
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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Soup DeVille

Quote from: MX793 on January 28, 2009, 07:56:30 PM

From a dead stop (constant acceleration),

x = 0.5 * a * t^2
a = (Vf - Vi)/t

x = 0.5 * (Vf - Vi) * t

Vectors do indeed have positives and negatives depending on your coordinate system.  And in this case, we're really dealing with speeds and not proper vectors anyway.

Then don't call your variables V!
Maybe we need to start off small. I mean, they don't let you fuck the glumpers at Glumpees without a level 4 FuckPass, do they?

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MX793

Quote from: Soup DeVille on January 28, 2009, 08:01:05 PM
Your variablles: Vi (initial)= 0, Vf(final)=60

My variables: V0 (original)=0, V=60

60-0=60

0+60=60

How the fuck is this confusing you?

Because if Vo wasn't 0, then the equation would give a wrong result.
Needs more Jiggawatts

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