Sporty G37 thread

[MX793]

Strong comeback!

Regarding PSS vs DWS06s, Tire Rack tested both on the same F30:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=218

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=216

5ft difference braking from 50mph, 0.02g around the skidpad in the dry in favor of the PSSs.... 10ft difference and 0.02g difference in the wet in favor of the DWS06s. DWS06s are a little squishy on the Civic but they have a 50 series profile. Not as sexy as the PSSs on the internet but they're a good tire year round.

The differences show up in sustained lapping.  A track day, or a couple of auto-xes, will tear up the DWS' with their blocky tread, which will overheat more quickly.  Responses will also be softer and they'll tend to be "squirmier" at initial turn-in.

Here's how much worse a blockier tread holds up to abuse vs something with broader shoulders.

http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticles/ID/4456/PageID/11384/TESTED-Continental-Tire-ExtremeContact-Sport.aspx



In this case, comparing the summer-only Continental ExtremeContact DW (blocky tread that was designed to be tops in wet traction) to the new ExtremeContact Sport (designed to improve dry grip vs the DW to better compete with the PSS).

[12,000 RPM]

Only track days I plan on doing will be on the bike, not this autotragic behemoth.... that is good to know though.

[afty]

I'm going to need new tires soon.  I've got Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Positions on my G now, but I'll probably go full PSS for the new set.  The PSSes cost $150 more for a full set.

[Laconian]

I'm going to need new tires soon.  I've got Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Positions on my G now, but I'll probably go full PSS for the new set.  The PSSes cost $150 more for a full set.

WORTH IT. Just change it now, screw the remaining tread life. Life's too short to roll on Potenzas.

[BimmerM3]

WORTH IT. Just change it now, screw the remaining tread life. Life's too short to roll on Potenzas.

"Potenza" is waaaaayy too generic of a brand name to determine anything about the actual tires. The Potenza RE-11s I have on the S2000 are awesome, but the OE Potenza RE050s were mediocre and WAY overpriced.

[Laconian]

Ah. RE050s were the stock tire on the G37. Yes, very bad tires.

[12,000 RPM]

Cant be worse than my NEXENs™

That's literally their trademarked tagline.

[BimmerM3]

Cant be worse than my NEXENs™

That's literally their trademarked tagline.

[Cookie Monster]

[giant_mtb]

Literally dying.

Wait, no I'm not.

[Laconian]

Literally dying.

Wait, no I'm not.

But you are; you approach your grave slowly with each passing breath.

[giant_mtb]

But you are; you approach your grave slowly with each passing breath.

Fuck.

[BimmerM3]

But you are; you approach your grave slowly with each passing breath.

But just because something is actively growing closer doesn't mean that it's currently occurring. 

[giant_mtb]

But just because something is actively growing closer doesn't mean that it's currently occurring. 

Whoah.

[Laconian]

Dude, don't harsh on my deepness, man, dude

[BimmerM3]

Dude, don't harsh on my deepness, man, dude

I'm just trying to figure out when I'm living and when I'm dying, man.

[Laconian]

YOU'RE IN BOTH STATES AT ONCE MAN (mind blown)

STOP CLINGING TO ABSOLUTES

[giant_mtb]

Holy shit, guys.

[Soup DeVille]

But you are; you approach your grave slowly with each passing breath.

That's called living.

[MX793]

YOU'RE IN BOTH STATES AT ONCE MAN (mind blown)

STOP CLINGING TO ABSOLUTES

At least until somebody opens the box to observe us.  Then our quantum state converges into a single state.

[Soup DeVille]

I'm just trying to figure out when I'm living and when I'm dying, man.

If you're dying, you're living. If you're dead, you ain't.

[Soup DeVille]

At least until somebody opens the box to observe us.  Then our quantum state converges into a single state.

Which is why I'm going to be buried with a cat.

[Laconian]

Hey man, I don't make judgments. I'm so laid back that when I observe matter, I can just let it exist as a probabilistic superposition of states.

[FoMoJo]

What happened here?

[68_427]

I'm going to need new tires soon.  I've got Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Positions on my G now, but I'll probably go full PSS for the new set.  The PSSes cost $150 more for a full set.

Those S-04s are actually really good tires.  I had them on my Outback for two years, but I also just purchased Pilot Super Sports for this year. 

[afty]

Those S-04s are actually really good tires.  I had them on my Outback for two years, but I also just purchased Pilot Super Sports for this year. 

They get good reviews on Tire Rack. Do you think the Pilot Super Sports are noticeably better?

[68_427]

They get good reviews on Tire Rack. Do you think the Pilot Super Sports are noticeably better?

I've not driven on them yet unfortunately.  It's hard for me to believe they'll be noticeably better on the street but we'll see.

In fact... even if you buy them and put them on next month you'll still probably beat me to it.

[12,000 RPM]

What happened here?

Yea I wanna get back to talking tires and Chinese coilovers.

I think the S-04s are grippier than the PSSs but the PSSs have better all around performance and feel. In any case both suck in less than perfect weather compared to UHP all seasons so I'm def going that route.

[68_427]

However, many in our test were surprised at how close the Bridgestone compared favorably to the Pilot Super Sport. On the street and track, the Michelin Pilot Super Sport had faster steering response and a bit more dry grip than the S-04 Pole Position. However, I felt that the Bridgestone summer tire had a bit softer ride quality on the street, while still giving excellent cornering grip and road feel. Many may feel that the S-04 Pole Position has a better balance of ride quality and handling that would suit a vehicle that's driven spiritedly. My conclusion? The Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position is great alternative to the Michelin Pilot Super Sport for those willing to give up a little in terms of ultimate handling and grip for a bit softer ride and lower price-point. - See more at: http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/make-driving-fun/bridgestone-potenza-s-04-pole-position-vs-michelin-pilot-super-sport#sthash.OFcGGwhi.dpuf

Definitely a very good tire, and a great tire for the price.  Although with the PSS being phased out it was actually $1 cheaper per tire in my size than the S-04, but when I bought my S-04s two years ago it was closer to $30/tire difference.

[Tave]

Has anyone seen a car come out of China recently that didn't look 15-20 years behind the times? They're catching up compared to where they were in the early 90s but still have a ways to go.