BMW M5 vs. E55 AMG

[BMWDave]

vs.

[Raghavan]

M5: V10, stealthy looks, and has a true manual!

[BMWDave]

The M5 is a much nicer car, from a sporting standpoint, and yet is totally docile around town.  The E55 can claim that much, but in the sporting department it is seriously lacking compared to the M5.  Car said that after driving the M5 the E55 felt like it had wooden steering.

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.  

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.  

[Raghavan]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

[ifcar]

I'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.

Why?  Price?

[BMWDave]

I'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.

What about the new M5 Wagon?

[ifcar]

I'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.

What about the new M5 Wagon?

The US is actually getting it? What's the pricing?

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

[BMWDave]

I'd take the E55 wagon, the better mix of practicality and sport.

What about the new M5 Wagon?

The US is actually getting it? What's the pricing?

Link

I believe the US is getting it.  And I assume it will be a little pricier than the saloon version.  

Check the link.

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

[Raghavan]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

i'd probably take an STS-V over and E55.

Why?  Price?

It looks better than the E55, it's pretty much the same in performance, and it's cheaper.

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

Then how come you had such a problem accepting my opinion?

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?

I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.  

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?

I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.

Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.  

[TBR]

Also, a small picture is much better than one of a completely different interior.

[BMWDave]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?

I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.

Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.

I'm merely trying to start conversations.  I'm asking them Why? and I'm not saying that the STS-v is junk or anything like that.  

[BMWDave]

Also, a small picture is much better than one of a completely different interior.

I didnt realize it was different.  The thumbnail picture looked the same, so I just got the link.

[ifcar]

Who else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?



Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.  

[BMWDave]

Who else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?



Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.

I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.

[TBR]

You do know that that interior pic is from the previous gen E55, right?

Anyhow, I guess I would have to take the M5 simply because it is a better driver's car. But, I would take a Quatrroporte or even a STS-V over both.

Its the only good interior picture that I can find.  And why would you take an STS-V over these?  The M5 beats it in every dimension except price.

Who cares if it is the best pic you could find? It is completely useless because the current car has a completely different and much better interior.

It has to do with styling. The M5 is ugly imho and its interior isn't much better. As long as GM's engineers did as well with the suspension of the STS-V as they did with the CTS-V it should be plenty sporty.

Please put in a better picture.  I tried very hard to find one and couldnt.  The CTS-V cannot touch the M5's handling dynamics, and the engine in the M5 is a lot better than the STS-V's.  The only think going for the Caddy is price.  (which is a considerable factor, I agree.).  But to argue that its a better driver's car is not true.  It may be plenty sporty, but its not better than an M5.

Why is it you have such a problem with people having an opinion that is different from yours? When spending this much money styling is important and I think the 5-series is just plain ugly and I don't care if you have a problem with it. Also, you didn't really try that hard (first page of results for "Mercedes E55 interior" at Google Images):

I saw that picture and figured it was too small.  And I am not angry with you...I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

Then how come you had such a problem excepting my opinion?

I dont.  I simply wanted to know why you came to that conlusion.

Damn it, you quoted me before I fixed my spelling mistake. :D

Anyway, I told you why I came to that conclusion in my first post, how many times do you want me to tell you that I think the 5-series is ugly both inside and outside?

And, so far you have attempted to get everyone who didn't vote for the M5 into a debate.  I am sorry, but I think your inner BMW troll is showing a bit too much right now.

I'm merely trying to start conversations.  I'm asking them Why? and I'm not saying that the STS-v is junk or anything like that.

Then why were you so defensive?  

[Raghavan]

Who else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?



Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.

I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.

i thought it WAS a vibe.  

[BMWDave]

If I sounded defensive, I certainly didnt mean to.  Sometimes on Forums its hard to convey how you really feel, and I was just asking a question, nothing else.

[ifcar]

Who else thinks that the M5 wagon looks like a Vibe in this thumbnail pic?



Anyway, if this thing actually comes to the US, and if it's priced competitively against the E55 wagon, I'll change my vote. But until then, E55 for me.

I do think it looks like a Vibe, but its a tiny picture.

i thought it WAS a vibe.

So did I, and I even knew what page I was on.  

[Raza]

Hmm...I love the E55, but I'd take the M5 unless m other car was an M6 or Viper SRT-10.  

[Raghavan]

Hmm...I love the E55, but I'd take the M5 unless m other car was an M6 or Viper SRT-10.

The M5 has a true manual.