96' Neon Project thread

Started by 2o6, September 07, 2010, 08:04:02 PM

Madman

Quote from: Rupert on October 05, 2010, 09:39:24 PM
It's not so much the smoothness as it is the thickness. Find the spec for how thick they need to be and measure them. Like brake pads, the rotors experience wear. The calipers are fine, unless they're not. (That is, unless there is a real problem, they're fine).


As long as the discs aren't warped, they'll be fine.  Sounds like he just needs to throw on a new set of pads.

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Secret Chimp

Quote from: Madman on October 06, 2010, 09:35:54 PM

As long as the discs aren't warped, they'll be fine.  Sounds like he just needs to throw on a new set of pads.



He needs to at least use some emory cloth or sandpaper to score the glaze off of the discs or else his pads won't work well for shit.


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
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2o6

Got the V-belts and alternator off. But yet again, I ran out of daylight.



Should be able to put the new one back on tomorrow.

2o6

Ok, so I put my alternator on, but now I'm getting a strange sound (sounds like a pulley not catching correctly) when the car is at full lock.


My PS fluid did run low (I had to remove a line to take a bolt off) but I filled the reservoir.


Are my belts not tightened right? Is my PS pump going out, too?

r0tor

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2o6

Quote from: r0tor on October 09, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
How did you tighten the belt?


Lifted up the PS pump until the belts were tight.

2o6

So I checked under the hood....


Turns out that I neglected to tighten the bolts on the alternator, so the entire assembly is shifting side to side.  :facepalm:

Madman

Quote from: 2o6 on October 10, 2010, 04:20:18 PM
So I checked under the hood....


Turns out that I neglected to tighten the bolts on the alternator, so the entire assembly is shifting side to side.  :facepalm:


Making mistakes is how you learn not to repeat them.  Like the time I was changing my oil and forgot to replace the drain plug.  Poured the new oil in and out the bottom it went!  I'll make sure never to do that again!

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Rupert

Last time I changed the my oil, it was a windy day. All over.
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2o6

PS Pump is failing. It's a much simpler fix than the Alternator, though.


Either the PS pump is failing, or the belt isn't tight enough. It seems a bit random, it was working fine before I took the belts off. I get a rattling belt, and intermittent PS failures. I pop the hood to check the belt and it's somewhat loose.

CJ

So buy a new belt and bring the tension to spec.

2o6


2o6

I am running out of time and good weather to fix my parking brake.



How much will a shop charge?

Rupert

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2o6

Quote from: Rupert on October 26, 2010, 08:15:42 PM
What was wrong again?

Right rear parking brake shoe is either seized or broken. No tension in handle. Line possibly stretched, IDK for sure.

the Teuton

You could always park it in-gear...and hope no one bumps the heck out of your car.
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
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Madman

Who needs a parking brake?  Just carry a brick or a block of wood and wedge it under your tyre when you park.  Hey, it's a lot cheaper than paying a mechanic to fix it!

:lol:

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"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

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2o6

Quote from: the Teuton on October 26, 2010, 08:41:59 PM
You could always park it in-gear...and hope no one bumps the heck out of your car.


I've been parking it in gear since late August. And unless you have a worn clutch someone bumping your car won't hurt it.


Quote from: Madman on October 26, 2010, 08:44:28 PM
Who needs a parking brake?  Just carry a brick or a block of wood and wedge it under your tyre when you park.  Hey, it's a lot cheaper than paying a mechanic to fix it!

:lol:





I want to get it done before snowfall.

the Teuton



If the British do it, it must be cool.
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Quote from: CJ on April 06, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
I don't care about all that shit.  I'll be going to college to get an education at a cost to my parents.  I'm not going to fool around.
Quote from: MrH on January 14, 2011, 01:13:53 PM
She'll hate diesel passenger cars, all things Ford, and fiat currency.  They will masturbate to old interviews of Ayn Rand an youtube together.
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Rupert

Worst case, new parking brake assembly $? plus two to three hours labor at $70-100/hour.

Probably less than $150.
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Madman

Quote from: Rupert on October 27, 2010, 12:36:43 AM
Worst case, new parking brake assembly $? plus two to three hours labor at $70-100/hour.

Probably less than $150.


A block of wood is still cheaper.

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"I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses." - Johannes Kepler

"One of the most cowardly things ordinary people do is to shut their eyes to facts." - C.S. Lewis

sportyaccordy

Quote from: Madman on October 27, 2010, 07:18:24 AM

A block of wood is still cheaper.


I am not sure about this. Commodities have been on quite the uptick

hotrodalex

You sure the drum brake assembly is what's wrong? I would double check the cable and connection to the handle before assuming. Make sure you have all the J-hooks or whatever to keep the tension. If all of that looks fine, before taking it to a shop I would try to look at it yourself. Just find a diagram online of the assembly and take the wheel and cover off to check it. (I wouldn't recommend fixing the assembly yourself unless you know what you're doing. It's not very fun, takes a while, and can be confusing)

2o6

Quote from: hotrodalex on October 27, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
You sure the drum brake assembly is what's wrong? I would double check the cable and connection to the handle before assuming. Make sure you have all the J-hooks or whatever to keep the tension. If all of that looks fine, before taking it to a shop I would try to look at it yourself. Just find a diagram online of the assembly and take the wheel and cover off to check it. (I wouldn't recommend fixing the assembly yourself unless you know what you're doing. It's not very fun, takes a while, and can be confusing)



Did that already. It goes from both lines to the handle, just fine. The equalizer (that connects the lines from both wheels and transfers it into one line to the handle) is crooked.......which means that one of the lines is seized due to some sort of worn or corroded part.......like a parking brake shoe.

Secret Chimp

Quote from: 2o6 on October 09, 2010, 04:13:19 PM

Lifted up the PS pump until the belts were tight.

Are you sure there isn't some kind of a tensioning bolt on one of the accessories? Tension-by-tug sounds like a strange system. Then again it is a Chrysler car.


Quote from: BENZ BOY15 on January 02, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
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2o6

Quote from: Secret Chimp on October 28, 2010, 09:51:14 AM
Are you sure there isn't some kind of a tensioning bolt on one of the accessories? Tension-by-tug sounds like a strange system. Then again it is a Chrysler car.


I resolved it, but yes, it is essentially tension by tug. You take a 1" breaker bar (the PS pump has a hole specifically for it) and you get someone to push down on it as hard as possible (like a lever) and you tighten the two bolts that secure it to the car. Then, near the alternator, you tighten up the tension bolt.

S204STi

Re: the parking brake problem; more often than not the problem is easily remedied by simply adjusting the rear brake shoes.

Before some shadetree jumps in to claim they are self adjusting, that is what they are supposed to do but I call it Wishful Thinking.

2o6

Would this explain the reason why my rear brakes sometimes lockup when braking?

S204STi

Hmm that sounds more like broken hardware or a leaking wheel cylinder which has soaked the shoes.

2o6

Quote from: R-inge on October 28, 2010, 10:35:31 PM
Hmm that sounds more like broken hardware or a leaking wheel cylinder which has soaked the shoes.


But I'm not low on brake fluid.