this topic is on another forum I visit and got me to thinking. Then it got me thinking it might be interesting here.
So in real life what would you consider fighting words worth getting into a physical altercation over?
For me it would be anyone calling my wife or daughter "cunt", hell even calling my passed away mother would start me up.
Also, touching wife or daughter inappropriately would probably get you face time with me.
Calling me a Nigger. Not in jest, not in fun, but out of anger.
None. I don't want to fight.
I could see HD writing all these down and then requesting to meet us in person.
Quote from: 2o6 on April 29, 2012, 05:06:50 PM
I could see HD writing all these down and then requesting to meet us in person.
It would be like shooting fish in a barrel: not very sportsmanlike. :huh:
If ANYTHING some random geek off the street is enough to make one fly into physical rage, I think that person ought consider seeking some help. Sticks and stones and all that...
Who said anything about "flying" into a physical rage? Angry, yes. But being in a rage is almost always going to cause you to lose a fight.
I am talking about theoretically where people draw the line and feel they must stand up for principle/what is right, etc.
Only time I've gotten in a fight is when someone hit me first.
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 29, 2012, 07:36:20 PM
Only time I've gotten in a fight is when someone hit me first.
You're too pretty to fight..... :lol:
Personally, I'd like to see the return of the gentleman's duel.
A lot of people would suddenly start remembering their manners.
I probably wouldn't fight over just words throw at me. Unless I was already really pissed off. I really don't give a fuck what people say about me.
Saying something about a good friend or family member on the other hand would bring out the rage in me.
Guns speak louder than words.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on April 29, 2012, 09:17:56 PM
Personally, I'd like to see the return of the gentleman's duel.
A lot of people would suddenly start remembering their manners.
Glove slap, baby.
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There was a time in my life when rage and anger played a powerful part. I nearly came to blows with people a number of times, usually over perceived offenses to my ex-wife. When I began to understand that such a thing was neither healthy, nor normal, nor right, I determined that nothing would cause me to fly into a rage ever again. Anger is to me what alcohol is to an alcoholic. I choose to deal constructively with the emotion, not suppressing it, but actively choosing a different response.
Sometimes I go on 100% autopilot when someone says something stupid, and I return the favor - that has almost resulted in them coming after me a couple of times. But yeah, it'd have to be pretty drastic, such as an assault (i.e., direct threat or imminent indication of violence) for words to bring me first to blows. FWIW, I've never been in a fight.
Quote from: hounddog on April 29, 2012, 05:14:39 PM
It would be like shooting fish in a barrel: not very sportsmanlike. :huh:
Very dangerous thinking.
I can handle a lot of taunts. I tend to only be drawn in by actions. 99% of the time people talk shit, that's basically all they're prepared to do.
I think I would only respond with violence if there was *no other way* out.
It's much too easy to get sued.
Yeah, I don't need to punch someone to prove my worth or manliness or whatever. I guess "give me your wallet and get in the van" might provoke violence, depending. ;)
Wouldn't bother me. My wallet is usually empty, and I am a van enthusiast.
Quote from: Laconian on April 29, 2012, 11:38:17 PM
I think I would only respond with violence if there was *no other way* out.
It's much too easy to get sued.
This. A bar fight can end up costing you a lot, for example.
I'm almost 30, well past the age of picking fights with random assholes. Unless me or someone I know is threatened by actual violence, I'm probably going to let it slide.
There are no words worth getting into a physical altercation over.
Quote from: hounddog on April 29, 2012, 04:38:20 PM
So in real life what would you consider fighting words worth getting into a physical altercation over?
Words? Just words? :rolleyes:
None.
Lay a hand on my wife or son though and we are talking about a different ball game.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 08:38:41 AM
I'm almost 30, well past the age of picking fights with random assholes. Unless me or someone I know is threatened by actual violence, I'm probably going to let it slide.
I let it slide, I let it slip on by
Giving you one last try to kill it with the eyeI agree. I figure if there's going to be enough of an issue to cause a physical altercation, it's basically down to someone getting killed. That's where the seriousness level has to be for me to get into it.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 08:45:31 AM
There are no words worth getting into a physical altercation over.
What if someone called you a nigger? Would you throw down or just be really confused?
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I let it slide, I let it slip on by
Giving you one last try to kill it with the eye
I agree. I figure if there's going to be enough of an issue to cause a physical altercation, it's basically down to someone getting killed. That's where the seriousness level has to be for me to get into it.
Sometimes it can't be helped. For example, the other day my friend and his buddy were riding the light rail in Denver and some yahoo came along and started hitting one of them in the face for no reason, so they had to beat the guy's ass.
Too old for that shit, and so are you, Tony. I did give my asshole neighbour a shove for calling my daughter a liar, but it wasn't the right course of action. There are other ways to handle conflict.
Picking a fight over petty shit is why Trayvon Martin is dead and George Zimmerman is in jail. Not a good idea. These things can escalate quickly, especially if someone is packing heat.
"Camaro is better than Mustang"
"THROW DOWN MOTHERFUCKER!!!!"
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 10:01:50 AM
Too old for that shit, and so are you, Tony.
And as former LE you'd think he'd know better.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 11:10:53 AM
And as former LE you'd think he'd know better.
That's just stupid. You could also say that as a former Marine he's more likely to fight. I'm not a big fighter but I'd defend my wife's honor if someone called her a cunt when I was standing there and the same if someone touched one of them- probably more if someone touched one of them. But that kind of name women consider like their version of "nigger"- I don't know if you've ever been around when some dude calls a woman a cunt but it's usually on right then right there. Don't stand up for your woman or daughter when someone uses that word and you fall a couple notches big time in their minds. You got a mom right? You're seriously going to tell me you wouldn't step up if you were at a restraunt and someone slammed that name down on her right in front of you?
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
That's just stupid. You could also say that as a former Marine he's more likely to fight. I'm not a big fighter but I'd defend my wife's honor if someone called her a cunt when I was standing there and the same if someone touched one of them- probably more if someone touched one of them. But that kind of name women consider like their version of "nigger"- I don't know if you've ever been around when some dude calls a woman a cunt but it's usually on right then right there. Don't stand up for your woman or daughter when someone uses that word and you fall a couple notches big time in their minds. You got a mom right? You're seriously going to tell me you wouldn't step up if you were at a restraunt and someone slammed that name down on her right in front of you?
1) Why is my cunt of a wife picking fights with strangers at restaurants?
2) I imagine it would go something like, "Hey asshole, that's my wife, take it easy. Honey, this place sucks, let's get out of here."
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
That's just stupid. You could also say that as a former Marine he's more likely to fight. I'm not a big fighter but I'd defend my wife's honor if someone called her a cunt when I was standing there and the same if someone touched one of them- probably more if someone touched one of them. But that kind of name women consider like their version of "nigger"- I don't know if you've ever been around when some dude calls a woman a cunt but it's usually on right then right there. Don't stand up for your woman or daughter when someone uses that word and you fall a couple notches big time in their minds. You got a mom right? You're seriously going to tell me you wouldn't step up if you were at a restraunt and someone slammed that name down on her right in front of you?
Nope, someone willing to throw out an insult like that in public is someone just looking for an excuse to start something physical. Why give him the satisfaction of dragging you down to his level? Ignore him and walk away.
If that situation were to come about I just can't picture the woman falling back with breathless admiration ("ah, my hero") while her man engaged in a fight over a word from what is obviously a socially challenged individual. I'd drop a couple of notches
if I did get in a meaningless fight like that.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
That's just stupid. You could also say that as a former Marine he's more likely to fight. I'm not a big fighter but I'd defend my wife's honor if someone called her a cunt when I was standing there and the same if someone touched one of them- probably more if someone touched one of them. But that kind of name women consider like their version of "nigger"- I don't know if you've ever been around when some dude calls a woman a cunt but it's usually on right then right there. Don't stand up for your woman or daughter when someone uses that word and you fall a couple notches big time in their minds. You got a mom right? You're seriously going to tell me you wouldn't step up if you were at a restraunt and someone slammed that name down on her right in front of you?
Standing up and breaking a bottle are two different things.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:23:16 AM
That's just stupid.
No, it's dead on accurate.
Tony is known around here as a hothead and a bit of a bully, and this thread just confirms that.
Dude is too old for this infantile shit and should know better. So should you for that matter.
The biggest reason I would never start a fight is because I don't want to go to jail. The second biggest reason is that I'm a big dude and I know myself. In high school I got in two fights. I threw one guy over a 4 foot pony wall and down a flight of stairs, and the other guy was left unconscious on the floor. Both were in retaliation to bullying, so I know that if I got to the point of fighting, I can't control myself and I would likely kill him.
Quote from: Raza on April 30, 2012, 11:43:38 AM
Standing up and breaking a bottle are two different things.
You're grandstanding. Where did HD or anyone else talk about breaking bottles? You're not only reading way too much into it your putting words in his mouth- so to speak. He's said "fight" not all out John Wayne style bar brawl.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
No, it's dead on accurate.
Tony is known around here as a hothead and a bit of a bully, and this thread just confirms that.
Dude is too old for this infantile shit and should know better. So should you for that matter.
No- it's stupid and so is your assertion that a thread about defending his wife and daughter honor or from being touched inappropriately as being a bully and hothead. I know you don't have either so you can't understand- but it's about standing up like a man not a neutered metro. Sometimes men have to fight that's just the nature of life.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
1) Why is my cunt of a wife mom picking fights with strangers at restaurants?
2) I imagine it would go something like, "Hey asshole, that's my wife, take it easy and learn some respect. Honey, this place sucks, let's get out of here."
Yea- because that's what happens when someone starts with verbally abusive behavior in public :rolleyes: - most of the time it happens it's because they're drunk or high and it doesn't stop with a clever and witty retort.
Quote from: MiataJohn on April 30, 2012, 11:41:07 AM
I'd drop a couple of notches if I did get in a meaningless fight like that.
And you'ld be a hero to her if you didn't stand up for her. ;)
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
No- it's stupid and so is your assertion that a thread about defending his wife and daughter honor or from being touched inappropriately as being a bully and hothead. I know you don't have either so you can't understand- but it's about standing up like a man not a neutered metro. Sometimes men have to fight that's just the nature of life.
Don't be so dramatic. Nearly everyone here seems to agree that you should protect yourself if threatened. Obviously we don't expect you to stand by and watch as your daughter is molested. Most of us are talking about words alone, as that's the main topic of the thread.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:55:12 AM
And you'ld be a hero to her if you didn't stand up for her. ;)
Is that a statement or question?
She'd think more of me if I took the high road and walked away from such a senseless confrontation.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Don't be so dramatic. Nearly everyone here seems to agree that you should protect yourself if threatened. Obviously we don't expect you to stand by and watch as your daughter is molested. Most of us are talking about words alone, as that's the main topic of the thread.
:rolleyes: Who's being dramatic? Molested? :facepalm: Words alone can be enough to front someone off- they're enough to land you in jail in some cases.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
No- it's stupid and so is your assertion that a thread about defending his wife and daughter honor or from being touched inappropriately as being a bully and hothead. I know you don't have either so you can't understand- but it's about standing up like a man not a neutered metro. Sometimes men have to fight that's just the nature of life.
I find it extremely disturbing that you are an LEO.
Quote from: MiataJohn on April 30, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
Is that a statement or question?
She'd think more of me if I took the high road and walked away from such a senseless confrontation.
Statement.
Yeah right- after someone called her the female equivalent of "n." you know because women are so understanding about that. :ohyeah:
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
I find it extremely disturbing that you are an LEO.
I find it disturbing you are a male.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
Yea- because that's what happens when someone starts with verbally abusive behavior in public :rolleyes: - most of the time it happens it's because they're drunk or high and it doesn't stop with a clever and witty retort.
If some deranged lunatic is verbally harrassing my 60-year old sweatheart of a mother at a restaurant, I'm going to attempt to extricate my mother from the situation, ask the proprietor to call the police if it escalates, and defend ourselves should he try to attack us. I don't see how that isn't the best course of action.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:02:48 PM
I find it disturbing you are a male.
Part of being a man includes remaining cool and having some control over your actions, not whirring up into an emotion-driven maelstrom of stupidity every time your perceived "honor" is violated as you and HD evidently do.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
I find it extremely disturbing that you are an LEO.
:hesaid:
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:03:18 PM
If some deranged lunatic is verbally harrassing my 60-year old sweatheart of a mother at a restaurant, I'm going to attempt to extricate my mother from the situation, ask the proprietor to call the police if it escalates, and defend ourselves should he try to attack us. I don't see how that isn't the best course of action.
I guess you'll do it with a kind word to the guy- a hearty handshake and a tip of your hat on your way out as well?
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 12:06:50 PM
Part of being a man includes remaining cool and having some control over your actions, not whirring up into an emotion-driven maelstrom of stupidity every time your perceived "honor" is violated as you and HD evidently do.
And your reading comprehension is as bad as it always is. You should try
"reading" the thread sometime. :ohyeah:
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
Coming from you that means..............
nothing.
That's because you have the intellect of a child.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
Statement.
Yeah right- after someone called her the female equivalent of "n." you know because women are so understanding about that. :ohyeah:
No disrespect intended, but I think you are looking at this through "cop's eyes" and the cop mindset that you need to always "take charge of the situation".
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:00:41 PM
:rolleyes: Who's being dramatic?
You are, Sigourney Weaver.
QuoteMolested? :facepalm:
Whatever you want to call it, you have the right to protect your family from being "touched inappropriately" by strangers. That's obviously not what most of us are talking about.
QuoteWords alone can be enough to front someone off- they're enough to land you in jail in some cases.
Getting in fist fights is a lot easier way to go to jail. Or be sued, for that matter.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
I guess you'll do it with a kind word to the guy- a hearty handshake and a tip of your hat on your way out as well?
Do what, leave? Why do I need to do anything to him to leave, or talk with the people at the restaurant?
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
You are, Sigourney Weaver.
Whatever you want to call it, you have the right to protect your family from being "touched inappropriately" by strangers. That's obviously not what most of us are talking about.
Getting in fist fights is a lot easier way to go to jail. Or be sued, for that matter.
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
Do what, leave? Why do I need to do anything to him to leave?
You're telling me you wouldn't utter a word- throw a look- nothing. Anything you do in response is your drawing the line on fighting words. :huh: May not be the physical altercation HD was talking about but it's a response to fighting words not just simply walking away peacefully either.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on April 30, 2012, 12:12:25 PM
That's because you have the intellect of a child.
You're such a gown up with your insults and everything- and you know oh so much about me. ;)
Quote from: MiataJohn on April 30, 2012, 12:12:40 PM
No disrespect intended, but I think you are looking at this through "cop's eyes" and the cop mindset that you need to always "take charge of the situation".
I won't deny that's a possibility.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire
That is a Supreme Court opinion that gives the police the constitutional authority to arrest the jackass who is harassing you. It's a restriction on
his speech.
"Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire" doesn't make it a good idea for you to beat up people who insult you and risk getting arrested yourself.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
That is a Supreme Court opinion that gives the police the constitutional authority to arrest the jackass who is harassing you. It's a restriction on his speech.
"Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire" doesn't make it a good idea for you to beat up people who insult you and risk getting arrested yourself.
I know what it is- the restriction on his speech goes beyond police authority- Fighting Words in Constitutional Law.
"insulting or 'fighting words,' those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace"
I can't imagine a situation in today's society where my wife, daughter, or mother would be called a cunt. I imagine the individual would be insane or severly impaired, and the "manly" thing to do would be to extricate them from the confrontation. If the guy has no qualms about calling a woman such a hateful name, what else is he capable of? That the two LEO's here would punch the guy and escalate things is kind of disturbing.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:17:52 PM
You're telling me you wouldn't utter a word- throw a look- nothing. Anything you do in response is your drawing the line on fighting words. :huh: May not be the physical altercation HD was talking about but it's a response to fighting words not just simply walking away peacefully either.
Well there you go, that's what all of us are talking about. I thought you were too.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Well there you go, that's what all of us are talking about. I thought you were too.
In general yes- gut you were acting "as if..." you would do nothing- say nothing- not respond in anyway to his fighting words other then standing up and walking out.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:24:53 PM
Well there you go, that's what all of us are talking about. I thought you were too.
Oh yeah, okay. I don't think anyone here said they'd do nothing.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:26:47 PM
In general yes- gut you were acting "as if..." you would do nothing- say nothing- not respond in anyway to his fighting words other then standing up and walking out.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 11:40:40 AM
1) Why is my cunt of a wife picking fights with strangers at restaurants?
2) I imagine it would go something like, "Hey asshole, that's my wife, take it easy. Honey, this place sucks, let's get out of here."
:huh:
I'd definitely be less likely to get in a profanity-laced insult match with my 60-year old sweatheart of a mother sitting right there though.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 12:24:23 PM
I can't imagine a situation in today's society where my wife, daughter, or mother would be called a cunt. I imagine the individual would be insane or severly impaired, and the "manly" thing to do would be to extricate them from the confrontation. If the guy has no qualms about calling a woman such a hateful name, what else is he capable of? That the two LEO's here would punch the guy and escalate things is kind of disturbing.
Things are already escalated. That we understand where courts stand on this type of thing is knowing your rights and where you draw the line- then again you are Canadian.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
No- it's stupid and so is your assertion that a thread about defending his wife and daughter honor or from being touched inappropriately as being a bully and hothead. I know you don't have either so you can't understand- but it's about standing up like a man not a neutered metro. Sometimes men have to fight that's just the nature of life.
No words are worth fighting over. Sorry man. I have a wife, a daughter, and a son, and there is nothing you could call them that would drag me into fighting. If someone assaulted them, especially sexually, they would not only receive a beat down, but someone would have to stop me from killing them.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 12:30:22 PM
No words are worth fighting over. Sorry man. I have a wife, a daughter, and a son, and there is nothing you could call them that would drag me into fighting.
Bull.
Shit.
I do not believe that for one single second especially where it comes to your daughter. I've seen the photos of you with her- she's clearly your pride and joy and the light of your life- you'ld snap on someone like a crazyman for saying "just the right thing" to her- maybe not intentionally but believe me there's a line with daughters that people just can't cross. I'm a dad- and my daughter isn't biologically mine but she's "mine"- protection of a daughter is incredibly instinctual.
QuoteIf someone assaulted them, especially sexually, they would not only receive a beat down, but someone would have to stop me from killing them.
No need to even mention that- I think we're all in the very same spot where that comes into play.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:29:59 PM
Things are already escalated. That we understand where courts stand on this type of thing is knowing your rights and where you draw the line- then again you are Canadian.
What difference does it make if I'm Canadian?
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
Bull.
Shit.
I do not believe that for one single second especially where it comes to your daughter. I've seen the photos of you with her- she's clearly your pride and joy and the light of your life- you'ld snap on someone like a crazyman for saying "just the right thing" to her- maybe not intentionally but believe me there's a line with daughters that people just can't cross. I'm a dad- and my daughter isn't biologically mine but she's "mine"- protection of a daughter is incredibly instinctual.
No need to even mention that- I think we're all in the very same spot where that comes into play.
What would you do... beat the living crap out of the guy in front of your daughter?
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
What difference does it make if I'm Canadian?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTq7tbjILHc&feature=related
Everyone in this thread should just kick each other's asses, because these words aren't getting us anywhere.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 12:37:47 PM
What would you do... beat the living crap out of the guy in front of your daughter?
Nope- you'd be surprised how a few well chosen words backed up by "honestly angry" look in your eyes can resolve a problem like that.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:44:30 PM
Nope- you'd be surprised how a few well chosen words backed up by "honestly angry" look in your eyes can resolve a problem like that.
Now here we are in agreement.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:29:59 PM
Things are already escalated. That we understand where courts stand on this type of thing is knowing your rights and where you draw the line- then again you are Canadian.
I don't think you understand the law very well. "Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire" is a case which describes the limits of the 1st Amendment. It's an exception to free speech, allowing states to pass laws which restrict the ability of a speaker to express themselves. Read that again, it restricts the
speaker's rights, it has nothing to do with the rights of the listener. It is a form of prior restraint, allowing the police to arrest the person saying the words before he can use those words to incite violence. It's not a defense to beating someone up.
From Michigan's criminal code:
M.C.L.A. 780.972
780.972. Right to use of force in defense of self or another individual
Currentness
Sec. 2.
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(2) An individual ... may use force ... against another individual ... if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual.And your civil code
M Civ JI 115.07 Assault and Battery?Provocation by Mere Words Not a Defense
Words alone, no matter how insulting, do not justify an assault or battery against the person who utters the words. (http://courts.mi.gov/mcji/intentional-torts/intentional-torts-Ch115.htm)
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:44:30 PM
Nope- you'd be surprised how a few well chosen words backed up by "honestly angry" look in your eyes can resolve a problem like that.
That's not fighting....is it?
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:36:00 PM
Bull.
Shit.
I do not believe that for one single second especially where it comes to your daughter. I've seen the photos of you with her- she's clearly your pride and joy and the light of your life- you'ld snap on someone like a crazyman for saying "just the right thing" to her- maybe not intentionally but believe me there's a line with daughters that people just can't cross. I'm a dad- and my daughter isn't biologically mine but she's "mine"- protection of a daughter is incredibly instinctual.
I would never beat a guy in front of her either. Would I bite back? Sure, but I wouldn't curse and I certainly wouldn't use physical force in front of her.
Again- knowing your rights are knowing where to draw the line in a confrontation and knowing where the courts stand...............
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
I would never beat a guy in front of her either. Would I bite back? Sure, but I wouldn't curse and I certainly wouldn't use physical force in front of her.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 12:59:36 PM
That's not fighting....is it?
And responding never leads to altercations?
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 11:45:39 AM
No, it's dead on accurate.
Tony is known around here as a hothead and a bit of a bully, and this thread just confirms that.
Dude is too old for this infantile shit and should know better. So should you for that matter.
Thing is with bullies and I'm-big-so-I'm-a-good-fighter types like hounddog is that they generally suck at fighting. In my prime I've had friends that 7 times out of 10 would have left hounddog lying on the sidewalk crying for his mama (Golden Gloves champ, state wrestling champ), and they were all of 6'-1" and maybe 185 lbs. The wrestler was a fighter and often times threw first; the boxer was quite mellow and was rarely in fights, but when it happened, bad news for hounddog types.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:29:59 PM
Things are already escalated. That we understand where courts stand on this type of thing is knowing your rights and where you draw the line- then again you are Canadian.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 12:36:28 PM
What difference does it make if I'm Canadian?
:facepalm:
It's all that maple syrup and obsession with hockey-that messes with your brain. :lol:
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
I find it extremely disturbing that you are an LEO.
More than a few have said the same. My hope is he comes here to vent and otherwise IRL rohan is quite a different person (my hunch is that's probably the case).
Quote from: GoCougs on April 30, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Thing is with bullies and I'm-big-so-I'm-a-good-fighter types like hounddog is that they generally suck at fighting. In my prime I've had friends that 7 times out of 10 would have left hounddog lying on the sidewalk crying for his mama (Golden Gloves champ, state wrestling champ), and they were all of 6'-1" and maybe 185 lbs. The wrestler was a fighter and often times threw first; the boxer was quite mellow and was rarely in fights, but when it happened, bad news for hounddog types.
LOL at everything you just wrote.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 01:01:02 PM
Again- knowing your rights are knowing where to draw the line in a confrontation and knowing where the courts stand...............
The law does not allow you to beat someone who insults you. That's called a duel, and it was outlawed a hundred years ago.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 01:19:38 PM
The law does not allow you to beat someone who insults you. That's called a duel, and it was outlawed a hundred years ago.
You're not reading what I'm writing.............
Now that I think about it, if my wife can get someone to call her a cunt, she prolly had it coming. :lol:
I think somebody may have pissed in rohan's cornflakes this morning. :huh:
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 01:22:45 PM
You're not reading what I'm writing.............
You're not writing what I'm reading.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
You're not writing what I'm reading.
I'm reading what you're writing and I'm writing this so you can read it.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 30, 2012, 01:24:20 PM
You're not writing what I'm reading.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FEW5mh7iAI
As to the topic of the thread...
There have been few times in my life that someone said stuff to me that made me go into mega rage autopilot with an equally SOB comment. That in and of itself isn't a fight but my response came close a few times of compelling the other person to attack - FWIW I would have responded in kind. Either way I can't imagine words alone compelling me to start a fight - can't say it would never happen though.
Fact is the right words at the right time can cause a portion of people to respond physically. Illegal? Most cases, probably. Risky? You bet - it doesn't take much to seriously injure or even kill a person with a punch or a kick. Stressful? It ain't the movies - a fight with a stranger can be a damaging experience even outside injury, lawsuit or arrest. An of course it should be said should it come to blows just like the proverbial box of chocolates, you'll never know what you're going to get - a brawler, a gun, a knife, or w/e (in short, such fights are virtually never "fair").
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FEW5mh7iAI
Yeah okay, that made me laugh. :lol:
LOL at ToughguySPIN.
rohan ain't picking a fight with anybody...
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
You're grandstanding. Where did HD or anyone else talk about breaking bottles? You're not only reading way too much into it your putting words in his mouth- so to speak. He's said "fight" not all out John Wayne style bar brawl.
A fight's a fight, and like I said--as an adult, if someone is willing to throw a punch at me, he's willing to kill me in that fight, and that's the assumption I would operate under if I were to get into a fight. I'm not a kid anymore. The recess aides don't come in and send you to the principal's office. If there's violence, I assume my life is on the line. So I really don't think my assertion is out of line.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 30, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Thing is with bullies and I'm-big-so-I'm-a-good-fighter types like hounddog is that they generally suck at fighting. In my prime I've had friends that 7 times out of 10 would have left hounddog lying on the sidewalk crying for his mama (Golden Gloves champ, state wrestling champ), and they were all of 6'-1" and maybe 185 lbs. The wrestler was a fighter and often times threw first; the boxer was quite mellow and was rarely in fights, but when it happened, bad news for hounddog types.
Yep, you never really know what other ppl are capable of, plus you never know who has a gun or a knife and may know how to use it - that's one of the reasons I say as a former leo he really should know these things.
It's never a good idea to escalate a verbal confrontation into a violent confrontation. Best case you embarrass the shit out of your family and spend a night in jail. Worst case you escalate a violent confrontation that goes against you, with your loved ones present. Go around picking fights with strangers and sooner or later you WILL get your ass handed to you. Massive fail.
Actually, there are some words that would make me fight.
For example...
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Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 12:57:29 PM
I don't think you understand the law very well. "Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire" is a case which describes the limits of the 1st Amendment. It's an exception to free speech, allowing states to pass laws which restrict the ability of a speaker to express themselves. Read that again, it restricts the speaker's rights, it has nothing to do with the rights of the listener. It is a form of prior restraint, allowing the police to arrest the person saying the words before he can use those words to incite violence. It's not a defense to beating someone up.
From Michigan's criminal code:
M.C.L.A. 780.972
780.972. Right to use of force in defense of self or another individual
Currentness
Sec. 2.
...
(2) An individual ... may use force ... against another individual ... if he or she honestly and reasonably believes that the use of that force is necessary to defend himself or herself or another individual from the imminent unlawful use of force by another individual.
And your civil code
M Civ JI 115.07 Assault and Battery?Provocation by Mere Words Not a Defense
Words alone, no matter how insulting, do not justify an assault or battery against the person who utters the words. (http://courts.mi.gov/mcji/intentional-torts/intentional-torts-Ch115.htm)
Question for you. The "words alone" statement...am I correct in assuming that doesn't apply to threats of bodily harm?
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1711891#msg1711891 date=1335814622
Question for you. The "words alone" statement...am I correct in assuming that doesn't apply to threats of bodily harm?
I don't know, you'd have to research the Michigan state court decisions that interpret the law.
My hunch is a threat by itself isn't enough. Now if he was waving a knife in front of your face and threatening to cut your nose off it might be a different story.
Quote from: Tave on April 30, 2012, 01:43:25 PM
I don't know, you'd have to research the Michigan state court decisions that interpret the law.
My hunch is a threat by itself isn't enough. Now if he was waving a knife in front of your face and threatening to cut your nose off it might be a different story.
A threat alone isn't enough it depends on what's said and how it's said and the reasonable belief that one or even both believe they are in imminent danger.
"Next time I see you I'm going to kick your ass." No reasonable threat of imminent danger.
"I'm going to beat your ass." Reasonable threat of imminent danger.
Also in Michigan prosecutors regularly refuse to charge either person in 'naturally escalated' fights citing "Mutual Combatants" using this definition (probably incorrectly)
"It is well settled that serious provocation may arise from a mutual combat. Our Court of Appeals has quoted the definition of mutual combat as one into which both parties enter willingly, or in which two persons, upon a sudden quarrel, and in hot blood, mutually fight upon equal terms. Two other conditions must be satisfied as well: 1. the accused cannot have instigated the fight; and 2. retaliation by the accused must not be disproportionate to the provocation."
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 12:44:30 PM
Nope- you'd be surprised how a few well chosen words backed up by "honestly angry" look in your eyes can resolve a problem like that.
Perhaps, but I'd guess that the kind of situation HD originally postualted is precipitated by some jerk just spoiling for a fight; a guy who will look for any opportunity to show what a "big man" he is. You may be right and have the weight of law on your side to defend the honor of your wife and kids. I guess that's something to consder while the two of you are trading punches. "This guy may break my jaw or pull a knife, but the law is on my side".
Also, to be quite honest I doubt that everyone on this forum can play the 900 pound gorilla and stare down some jerk who is obviously out spoiling for a fight.
Hahahah too classic, gotta love the e-tough guyism in this thread.
Quote from: MiataJohn on April 30, 2012, 01:54:22 PM
Also, to be quite honest I doubt that everyone on this forum can play the 900 pound gorilla and stare down some jerk who is obviously out spoiling for a fight.
Like I said
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 11:50:56 AM
Sometimes men have to fight that's just the nature of life.
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 01:33:19 PM
Go around picking fights with strangers and sooner or later you WILL get your ass handed to you. Massive fail.
Since that's not what anyone's even remotely talking about......................
Would also like to point out this has absolutely nothing to do with defending the "honor" of your loved ones. You escalate a verbal scenario to violence it's on account of your own fragile ego and misconceptions/insecurity WRT your sense of manhood, let's not pretend otherwise. Saying its about defending your wife/daughter/mom's "honor" is just a diversion in a hollow attempt to justify a base act as somehow "honorable".
You do not "honor" your daughter by getting in a fight, getting yourself arrested, potentially getting your ass beat if not getting yourself stabbed, sued, and/or fired, and needlessly putting your own daughter in danger in the process.
Quote from: rohan on April 30, 2012, 02:00:36 PM
Since that's not what anyone's even remotely talking about......................
I'm sorry Randy which thread did you think you were posting in again?
Quote from: hounddog on April 29, 2012, 04:38:20 PM
So in real life what would you consider fighting words worth getting into a physical altercation over?
Quote from: Lebowski on April 30, 2012, 02:07:17 PM
I'm sorry Randy which thread did you think you were posting in again?
:facepalm:
Your lack of reading comprehension is impressive. How does that = seeking out/picking fights?
I've never understood why being called a cunt is so offensive. :huh:
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
The biggest reason I would never start a fight is because I don't want to go to jail. The second biggest reason is that I'm a big dude and I know myself. In high school I got in two fights. I threw one guy over a 4 foot pony wall and down a flight of stairs, and the other guy was left unconscious on the floor. Both were in retaliation to bullying, so I know that if I got to the point of fighting, I can't control myself and I would likely kill him.
I got in a fight when I was playing football in a kid's yard and I said something to his little brother (maybe called him a wimp? can't remember). He told me to leave his yard, but I didn't because we were done with that little situation and were just going to continue playing. But the kid insisted and I started to walk away, but then he came from behind me and punched me in the face. I had glasses and they were knocked off, but in a blind rage I got up and chased after him. He slipped so I got to him and was in the process of picking him up to choke slam him, but an older kid held me down. Probably lucky, not sure how badly I would have hurt the kid. Although he was a douche and still is to this day, so he probably would have deserved it.
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 30, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
I've never understood why being called a cunt is so offensive. :huh:
Yeah, I never got that either. I mean, I understand that it's more offensive than bitch or whore, I just don't get why. They seem more malicious and demeaning than cunt. Either way, all three are on my "do not say at work" list, along with others. Although "son of a bitch" and "cunt" have slipped out, but usually quietly or privately. Son of a bitch I'm not so concerned about, though I wouldn't say "Man, this lady was being a bitch", though I've had my boss once tell me that he didn't understand why some chick on a call we were on was being such a bitch to me. I'm a little more careful just because I do swear a lot--more than most, if not at the top of the list.
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 30, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
Hahahah too classic, gotta love the e-tough guyism in this thread.
:lol:
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Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1711948#msg1711948 date=1335821891
Yeah, I never got that either. I mean, I understand that it's more offensive than bitch or whore, I just don't get why. They seem more malicious and demeaning than cunt. Either way, all three are on my "do not say at work" list, along with others. Although "son of a bitch" and "cunt" have slipped out, but usually quietly or privately. Son of a bitch I'm not so concerned about, though I wouldn't say "Man, this lady was being a bitch", though I've had my boss once tell me that he didn't understand why some chick on a call we were on was being such a bitch to me. I'm a little more careful just because I do swear a lot--more than most, if not at the top of the list.
As am I, but cunt is...just wrong. It's just so derogatory. There aren't many words I won't say, but cunt is one I only say when discussing why I won't say it. And it's not just for women, because I've heard guys use it against other guys. It's a strange word though because even when using it in jest like you would with asshole, motherfucker, etc, people stop laughing.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1711948#msg1711948 date=1335821891
Yeah, I never got that either. I mean, I understand that it's more offensive than bitch or whore, I just don't get why. They seem more malicious and demeaning than cunt. Either way, all three are on my "do not say at work" list, along with others. Although "son of a bitch" and "cunt" have slipped out, but usually quietly or privately. Son of a bitch I'm not so concerned about, though I wouldn't say "Man, this lady was being a bitch", though I've had my boss once tell me that he didn't understand why some chick on a call we were on was being such a bitch to me. I'm a little more careful just because I do swear a lot--more than most, if not at the top of the list.
Step it up a notch by calling the person a blood farting sperm trough. That'll get a reaction. Not one from me, but it would be enough for some on this board to raise fists!
You could say anything to me, I'm not going to pick a fight. I know I'm better than the person saying shit if they have to resort to calling me names in order to try to pick a fight with me.
Also, rohan, what kind of message are you sending your kids when you intentionally try to beat the crap out of some guy in front of your kids for calling them names? That violence is OK and that you shouldn't turn the other cheek?
LOL
I leave for a couple hours and this turns funny.
:fail: for everyone in this thread at this point.
:lol: :cheers:
Quote from: GoCougs on April 29, 2012, 11:23:46 PM
Very dangerous thinking.
I was talking about how taking down notes and getting folks riled up would be easy. :facepalm:
Quote from: GoCougs on April 30, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Thing is with bullies and I'm-big-so-I'm-a-good-fighter types like hounddog is that they generally suck at fighting. In my prime I've had friends that 7 times out of 10 would have left hounddog lying on the sidewalk crying for his mama (Golden Gloves champ, state wrestling champ), and they were all of 6'-1" and maybe 185 lbs. The wrestler was a fighter and often times threw first; the boxer was quite mellow and was rarely in fights, but when it happened, bad news for hounddog types.
Lets see, I learned to use power and leverage at a particularly young age and went on to understand the best and most violent way to smash other extremely powerful people to the ground, then, I learned how to take that infomation and added in MCMAP to handle and even kill people, then, I went on and spent a career in LE learning and then teaching PPCT in Detroit fighting with people almost daily.
Yeah, I have no idea how to handle myself and would simply evacuate my bladder at the first sign of trouble. :rolleyes:
Quote from: hounddog on April 30, 2012, 06:56:58 PM
Yeah, I have no idea how to handle myself and would simply evacuate my bladder at the first sign of trouble. :rolleyes:
I don't think anyone implied you'd be afraid or that you'd evacuate your bladder. Rather, your known and acknowledged temper problem could get you into more than you bargain for one day. Again, I'm amazed given all your experience you just rattled off that you don't realize this.
When I was a teenager, I was out with my dad somewhere shopping in our local town. I parked the car & some officious little shit came up and told me I had to move it. I don't know why, low blood sugar, raging testosterone or something, but I just snapped into this red-haze rage. Started screaming at the guy & advancing on him. He stepped back & I remember the fear on his face. My dad had to physically hold me back.
I calmed down & remember afterwards being amazed at how I'd lost control & descended into this animal fury, with no warning & completely disproportional to the situation. It happens, it fades with age, but it's a guy thing & it's in us all.
So yes, if some asshole insults your women, they are squeezing your trigger. Hopefully for the asshole your pull weight is high; you'll calmly defuse the situation, extricate yourself & your women & walk away.
I really have to say, this was a great trolling front by HD. I don't buy for five seconds that he's quite as retarded IRL as he seems here.
Well done, dog. Well done.
I'd go out of my way to avoid a fight now. Not because I can't take getting my ass kicked if that's how things worked out. But I can't get hit in the mouth without having another $40K of possible damage. And I'd rather not spend that much again.
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 30, 2012, 08:00:14 PM
I really have to say, this was a great trolling front by HD. I don't buy for five seconds that he's quite as retarded IRL as he seems here.
Well done, dog. Well done.
The whole "wow, I leave for a couple of hours and come back to this" is a recurring line of his in these threads.
It's trolling, but I think there's an element of truth to it.
Quote from: Onslaught on April 30, 2012, 08:09:25 PM
I'd go out of my way to avoid a fight now. Not because I can't take getting my ass kicked if that's how things worked out. But I can't get hit in the mouth without having another $40K of possible damage. And I'd rather not spend that much again.
Wear a motocross helmet at all times.
Yeah, hd just says dumb shit, and then tries to look like it was intentional when he gets called on it.
As opposed to your compulsive obsession with just saying dumb shit. :rolleyes:
I guess in your fixation bogged mind; stalker whos actions driven by Borderline Personality Disorder and Obsessive Nuerosis: since I started the thread the shit storm which followed and I had nothing to do with, was not even logged in during, is my fault.
Take your meds, you are fixating again! :ohyeah:
Quote from: hounddog on April 30, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
As opposed to your compulsive obsession with just saying dumb shit. :rolleyes:
I guess in your fixation bogged mind; stalker whos actions driven by Borderline Personality Disorder and Obsessive Nuerosis: since I started the thread the shit storm which followed and I had nothing to do with, was not even logged in during, is my fault.
Take your meds, you are fixating again! :ohyeah:
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Quote from: hounddog on April 30, 2012, 06:56:58 PM
I was talking about how taking down notes and getting folks riled up would be easy. :facepalm:
I know; my point was, you apparently think you're all that and a bag of chips, which is a very risky position (see below).
Quote
Lets see, I learned to use power and leverage at a particularly young age and went on to understand the best and most violent way to smash other extremely powerful people to the ground, then, I learned how to take that infomation and added in MCMAP to handle and even kill people, then, I went on and spent a career in LE learning and then teaching PPCT in Detroit fighting with people almost daily.
Yeah, I have no idea how to handle myself and would simply evacuate my bladder at the first sign of trouble. :rolleyes:
No, you'd piss yourself after you got your arse kicked.
Thing is, training ain't worth much in a street fight and I'll believe you "fought" as you would in a street brawl as an LEO about nil.
You run into an average size guy who knows how to handle himself in a street brawl and it's probably not going to go well for you. Those guys don't travel solo a lot of times either, so if do you get the drop on him his friends will ruin your day.
Like I said, no matter how big (of bully) you think you are, there's always someone (and a lot of 'em) that are WAY tougher than you are, and even some of 'em don't look like much.
(Disclaimer to 'SPINners - not like I know firsthand, not a fighter at all - fighting (and losing) is one of the few life lessons I learned vicariously.)
Quote from: GoCougs on April 30, 2012, 09:44:13 PM
I know; my point was, you apparently think you're all that and a bag of chips, which is a very risky position (see below).
If you knew that, why are you going to such lengths to prove a non-point? :huh:
QuoteNo, you'd piss yourself after you got your arse kicked.
LOL. Ok.
QuoteThing is, training ain't worth much in a street fight and I'll believe you "fought" as you would in a street brawl as an LEO about nil.
LOL. Ok.
You are apparently completely unfamiliar with Detroit, then. ;)
Quote from: CALL_911 on April 30, 2012, 09:44:08 PM
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:lol:
That could almost be Rupert, no?
:lol:
It's really not too far off. No tats and darker hair. ;)
It was the idiotic things you said that set everyone off, and your internet double rohan was all too happy too oblige them.
Quote from: Rupert on April 30, 2012, 09:58:19 PM
It's really not too far off. No tats and darker hair. ;)
It was the idiotic things you said that set everyone off, and your internet double rohan was all too happy too oblige them.
No tats? Everybody in Eugene is fucking covered in tattoos. You must've escaped before they became compulsory.
It's my own form of rebellion. Or something. :lol:
Quote from: Laconian on April 30, 2012, 10:18:32 PM
No tats? Everybody in Eugene is fucking covered in tattoos. You must've escaped before they became compulsory.
I had all my tattoos done in flesh colored ink.
Quote from: hounddog on April 30, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
As opposed to your compulsive obsession with just saying dumb shit. :rolleyes:
I guess in your fixation bogged mind; stalker whos actions driven by Borderline Personality Disorder and Obsessive Nuerosis: since I started the thread the shit storm which followed and I had nothing to do with, was not even logged in during, is my fault.
Take your meds, you are fixating again! :ohyeah:
Go to yourlogicalfallacyis.com (http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com) and look under Ad Hominem, The Fallacy Fallacy, Tu Quoque, and Strawman. Congratulations in getting all of those in there.
What, can't you read, SVT? It's not even worth his time replying to such drivel.
Quote from: Rupert on May 01, 2012, 12:56:27 AM
What, can't you read, SVT? It's not even worth his time replying to such drivel.
:ohyeah:
Quote from: hounddog on April 30, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
LOL
I leave for a couple hours and this turns funny.
:fail: for everyone in this thread at this point.
:lol: :cheers:
I'm assuming you are including yourself in that statement. :huh:
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 03:54:49 PM
As am I, but cunt is...just wrong. It's just so derogatory.
But why?
Quote from: Northlands on April 30, 2012, 03:58:38 PM
Step it up a notch by calling the person a blood farting sperm trough. That'll get a reaction. Not one from me, but it would be enough for some on this board to raise fists!
This is the best thing I have ever heard.
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1712385#msg1712385 date=1335889564
But why?
Ask that cunt mom of yours.
Quote from: Lebowski on May 01, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
Ask that cunt mom of yours.
My friend's daughter actually asked her mother what a cunt is once. Cracked me up when he told me about it.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 30, 2012, 11:46:50 AM
The biggest reason I would never start a fight is because I don't want to go to jail. The second biggest reason is that I'm a big dude and I know myself. In high school I got in two fights. I threw one guy over a 4 foot pony wall and down a flight of stairs, and the other guy was left unconscious on the floor. Both were in retaliation to bullying, so I know that if I got to the point of fighting, I can't control myself and I would likely kill him.
Note to self: don't fuck with Craig. :lol:
Also, unrelated, defending your family's safety and defending their honor are two different things, IMO. Lay a hand on family and all bets are off, but name-calling is something that I won't lower myself to give a response to.
Which reminds me: Cunthammer is probably the most hilarious insult I've heard in recent memory. I smirk and giggle a bit just thinking of the word.
Quote from: S204STi on May 01, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Which reminds me: Cunthammer is probably the most hilarious insult I've heard in recent memory. I smirk and giggle a bit just thinking of the word.
I think putting "hammer" after any insulting name automatically makes it awesome.
Quote from: hotrodalex on May 01, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
I think putting "hammer" after any insulting name automatically makes it awesome.
The hammer is my penis.
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Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 12:40:05 AM
Go to yourlogicalfallacyis.com (http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com) and look under Ad Hominem, The Fallacy Fallacy, Tu Quoque, and Strawman. Congratulations in getting all of those in there.
Congratulations on taking everything anyone types entirely too seriously. You are going to end up stroking out, and believe me because I know something about stroking. ;)
Quote from: MiataJohn on May 01, 2012, 07:35:53 AM
I'm assuming you are including yourself in that statement. :huh:
Obviously
not.
:lol:
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 02:50:28 PM
Congratulations on taking everything anyone types entirely too seriously. You are going to end up stroking out, and believe me because I know something about stroking. ;)
What about my post makes you think I was steaming mad when I posted it? You're the one that loses control more than anyone on here. Be careful, you might have another one.
Quote from: hotrodalex on May 01, 2012, 02:10:29 PM
I think putting "hammer" after any insulting name automatically makes it awesome.
Fuckhammer
Shithammer
Motherfuckerhammer
MC Hammer
Pussyhammer
Dickhammer
Cockhammer
Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 03:40:03 PM
Fuckhammer
Shithammer
Motherfuckerhammer
MC Hammer
Pussyhammer
Dickhammer
Cockhammer
Motherfuckerhammer is a bit of a stretch, but generally, any kind of tool will do.
Fucksocket
Shitratchet
Pussychisel
Dickwrench
Cockandieset
Asscaliper
Pussychisel is awesome! :lol:
Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 03:38:31 PM
What about my post makes you think I was steaming mad when I posted it? You're the one that loses control more than anyone on here. Be careful, you might have another one.
Your history of left field rage induced, profanity laced, personal insult riddled, and ridiculously out of proportion rants? :huh:
Quote from: Raza on May 01, 2012, 10:26:21 AM
This is the best thing I have ever heard.
LOL, it is remarkable. :lol:
I always liked the insult, "Suck the snotty end of my fukstick."
Used to hear that at the bars when I was in college just before a ginormous brawl occured. College was fun. :rockon:
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 04:52:20 PM
Your history of left field rage induced, profanity laced, personal insult riddled, and ridiculously out of proportion rants? :huh:
They're never out of left field. You always deserve it.
Dickwrench and asscaliper sound funny to me. :lol:
Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 04:59:39 PM
They're never out of left field. You always deserve it.
Then, by your logic my outbursts were also entirely deserved. :huh:
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
Then, by your logic my outbursts were also entirely deserved. :huh:
Nope. Not at all. Your outbursts did come out of left field and the people you attacked are not asscalipers. You are, so my attacks were entirely justified.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 05:09:29 PM
Nope. Not at all. Your outbursts did come out of left field and the people you attacked are not asscalipers. You are, so my attacks were entirely justified.
LOL
Now whos building fallacies with strawmen?
:facepalm: 4u
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
LOL
Now whos building fallacies with strawmen?
:facepalm: 4u
Naw, see it's only a strawman if it's not true.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 01, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
Naw, see it's only a strawman if it's not true.
Which is itself a strawman.
Keep swinging.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Motherfuckerhammer is a bit of a stretch, but generally, any kind of tool will do.
Fucksocket
Shitratchet
Pussychisel
Dickwrench
Cockandieset
Asscaliper
Prick Punch and Mill Bastard are real, though.
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 02:50:28 PM
Congratulations on taking everything anyone types entirely too seriously. You are going to end up stroking out, and believe me because I know something about stroking. ;)
Hey look everybody he's been joking the whole time! No worries!
:lol:
"Knuckle" also works. Fucknuckle, assknuckle, cuntknuckle, et al.
:lol:
Mooseknuckle?
Ha, ha. Google it.
:lol:
I'm not going to google 'mooseknuckle'. Mooseknuckle is cameltoe's fat, ugly sister.
I'm glad to see the thread has been pulled out of total retardedness to now just disgusting humor. :lol:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Motherfuckerhammer is a bit of a stretch, but generally, any kind of tool will do.
Fucksocket
Shitratchet
Pussychisel
Dickwrench
Cockandieset
Asscaliper
:lol: :lol:
Fartdriver!
I know what rohan would say (to quote)...
Quote from: rohan on April 06, 2008, 10:01:51 AM
I live just outside Kalamazoo, Mi. Why don't you come up and pay me a visit sometime you little fucking shit. I'll be happy to entertain you. Want my address?
:devil: :lol:
It was 4 years ago to be fair, thought I'd deleted it as can't even remember what I said to piss him off...
Like others have said, I wouldn't start a physical confrontation based on words, instead I would do my best to get out of that situation ASAP. I am a wuss though.
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on May 02, 2012, 05:20:19 AM
I know what rohan would say (to quote)...
:devil: :lol:
It was 4 years ago to be fair, thought I'd deleted it as can't even remember what I said to piss him off...
I remember that, that was hilarious.
This thread delivers!
Gotta love the medieval ethics of the LEO's. :lol:
Quote from: hounddog on May 01, 2012, 02:51:50 PM
Obviously
not.
:lol:
Well, one thing's for sure. Your trolling is apoproaching the point of being as silly and annoying as that of GoCougs. ;)
Cockcompoundmitersaw
Quote from: Morris Minor on May 02, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
Cockcompoundmitersaw
That made me literally LOL.
Pussypalmsander
Quote from: nickdrinkwater on May 02, 2012, 05:20:19 AM
I know what rohan would say (to quote)...
:devil: :lol:
It was 4 years ago to be fair, thought I'd deleted it as can't even remember what I said to piss him off...
Meh, who isn't prone to a bit of ThreatSPIN here and there - even relatively minor-minored MiataJohn after getting mega 'who'd' is prone to it.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 01, 2012, 04:18:24 PM
Cockandieset
Now THAT had me spitting out a bit of my diet Pepsi with a 'lol'...
Lol when did miatajohn threaten anyone?
Quote from: Lebowski on May 02, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Lol when did miatajohn threaten anyone?
Who said I threatened anyone? Certainly, no one of consequence around here.
I'm not a threatening kind of guy. That's why have no desire to pick a fight over name calling. I might get my ass handed to meand then again I might not. In either case I can't be bothered to find out. :huh:
Quote from: Lebowski on May 02, 2012, 12:12:38 PM
Lol when did miatajohn threaten anyone?
Now and again (albeit rare), and as all important qualifier, it was only against those of non-consequence.
But again, it's just ThreatSPIN, part and parcel of which is naturally self-limiting - those who engage are least likely to actually start a fight (= neither rohan nor MiataJohn will be starting a fight; for any reason or with anyone of any sex, age or physical prowess; for the obvious reason).
Quote from: MiataJohn on May 02, 2012, 01:12:25 PM
Who said I threatened anyone? Certainly, no one of consequence around here.
I'm not a threatening kind of guy. That's why have no desire to pick a fight over name calling. I might get my ass handed to meand then again I might not. In either case I can't be bothered to find out. :huh:
Read Cougs' post above. I agree doesn't sound like you. Honestly HD and randy are the only two ppl here prone to rage IMO.
Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
Now and again (albeit rare), and as all important qualifier, it was only against those of non-consequence.
But again, it's just ThreatSPIN, part and parcel of which is naturally self-limiting - those who engage are least likely to actually start a fight (= neither rohan nor MiataJohn will be starting a fight; for any reason or with anyone of any sex, age or physical prowess; for the obvious reason).
I can hardly think of anyone here saying anything threatening, maybe I'm just misinterpreting.
Quote from: Lebowski on May 02, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
Read Cougs' post above. I agree doesn't sound like you. Honestly HD and randy are the only two ppl here prone to rage IMO.
My posts become profanity laced whenever HD posts. He replaced Cougs when I started ignoring him. Now, I'm just going to start ignoring HD too.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 02, 2012, 01:47:23 PM
My posts become profanity laced whenever HD posts. He replaced Cougs when I started ignoring him. Now, I'm just going to start ignoring HD too.
Can you ignore this?
April 2012 sales figures:
Camaro: 9,627
Mustang: 7,801
Challenger: 4,102
Quote from: Lebowski on May 02, 2012, 01:47:04 PM
I can hardly think of anyone here saying anything threatening, maybe I'm just misinterpreting.
Usually it is common that the offender has a better memory than the offendee; MiataJohn's admission of threats against those of "non-consequence" reinforces that. The specifics I'm sure he'll expand upon if he continues to be called out (I'm not too vested so am not too concerned). If he chooses to toe the line he's drawn for himself, it's not really a big deal.
Outside that, and all in all, maybe the 'SPIN should make a pact of not letting a thread get drawn into yet a gain another Tweedle Dee/Tweedle Dum tag team scary-these-guys-are/were-LEOs crap fest.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 02, 2012, 01:47:23 PM
My posts become profanity laced whenever HD posts. He replaced Cougs when I started ignoring him. Now, I'm just going to start ignoring HD too.
Welcome to the club.
I swear a lot, but that's just me.
Remember that fratqueen jadewolf or something? I'm pretty sure I made him cry once, begging me to stop implying that he was a closeted homosexual.
Quote from: Lebowski on May 02, 2012, 01:45:32 PM
Read Cougs' post above. I agree doesn't sound like you. Honestly HD and randy are the only two ppl here prone to rage IMO.
Can't. He is on Lifetime Ignore. :lol:
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1713107#msg1713107 date=1335989437
I swear a lot, but that's just me.
Remember that fratqueen jadewolf or something? I'm pretty sure I made him cry once, begging me to stop implying that he was a closeted homosexual.
lol, what happened?
Quote from: Raza on May 02, 2012, 02:10:37 PM
I swear a lot, but that's just me.
Remember that fratqueen jadewolf or something? I'm pretty sure I made him cry once, begging me to stop implying that he was a closeted homosexual.
Swearing != threatening.
Sometimes you have to tell someone they're a fucking idiot to get your point across.
Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2012, 01:58:41 PM
Usually it is common that the offender has a better memory than the offendee; MiataJohn's admission of threats against those of "non-consequence" reinforces that. The specifics I'm sure he'll expand upon if he continues to be called out (I'm not too vested so am not too concerned). If he chooses to toe the line he's drawn for himself, it's not really a big deal.
The burden of proof is 100% on you. No one else seems to remember that happening.
Quote from: hotrodalex on May 02, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
The burden of proof is 100% on you. No one else seems to remember that happening.
That's not how Internetry works actually; his admission, his burden.
Quote from: SVT666 on May 02, 2012, 01:47:23 PM
My posts become profanity laced whenever HD posts. He replaced Cougs when I started ignoring him. Now, I'm just going to start ignoring HD too.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 02, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
Welcome to the club.
Quote from: MiataJohn on May 02, 2012, 02:12:53 PM
Can't. He is on Lifetime Ignore. :lol:
Ha, ha, didn't know I had such power and control over your guys' daily lives. (And I ain't even trying to do such a thing.)
EgoboostSPIN.
"No one of consequence" refers to "who said."
Quote from: GoCougs on May 02, 2012, 03:50:02 PM
That's not how Internetry works actually; his admission, his burden.
You brought it up, you back it up.
Yeah! Or else!
I made the allegation, MiataJohn confirmed. I don't see how the case isn't closed. (It is.)
As to the topic of the thread; you ain't never sure what you're gonna get when you get in a physical altercation; even if you're the aggressor (http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/puyallup-man-punched-coma-after-comment-about-car-/nNPq3/).
Quote from: GoCougs on May 03, 2012, 12:10:04 PM
MiataJohn confirmed.
When? Is there a post I'm missing?
Quote from: GoCougs on May 03, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
As to the topic of the thread; you ain't never sure what you're gonna get when you get in a physical altercation; even if you're the aggressor (http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/puyallup-man-punched-coma-after-comment-about-car-/nNPq3/).
:wtf:
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on May 02, 2012, 02:05:08 PM
Welcome to the club.
:rolleyes:
Take Rupert with you both, add in svt666. I am certain you will all be very happy together.
I'm not any more profane with you than anyone else, dingleknocker.
Fuck all you cunthammer cockknuckle assholemitersaws! I am the most profane!
My ass, diarrheaprobe!
Quote from: Raza link=topic=27321.msg1713900#msg1713900 date=1336093587
Fuck all you cunthammer cockknuckle assholemitersaws! I am the most profane!
Fuck that, motherfucking dickdrill piece of cockwrench.
You can take that fucking dickdrill and twist it up your ugly assvicegrip, you cuntsaw veegsocket-smelling cockdriver!
sumbitch and tick turd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8&feature=related
:lol:
Quote from: HotRodPilot on May 03, 2012, 08:32:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8&feature=related
Waht the fuck. We posted this at the same time?
Quote from: Rockraven on May 03, 2012, 08:50:46 PM
Waht the fuck. We posted this at the same time?
Yeah, wierd as hell. I came across it when I was looking for office space videos.
Removed my thread. *sulk*
Quote from: HotRodPilot on May 03, 2012, 08:51:42 PM
Yeah, wierd as hell. I came across it when I was looking for office space videos.
I laughed my ass off. Full Metal Jacket was epic.
Hey, laser lips! haha
Quote from: GoCougs on May 03, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
As to the topic of the thread; you ain't never sure what you're gonna get when you get in a physical altercation; even if you're the aggressor (http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/puyallup-man-punched-coma-after-comment-about-car-/nNPq3/).
Here's the aggressor. Looks like a quality fellow.
(http://i.imgur.com/n5wkX.jpg)
Quote from: Rockraven on May 03, 2012, 08:53:42 PM
I laughed my ass off. Full Metal Jacket was epic.
FMJ is amazing.
Quote from: Rupert on May 03, 2012, 07:43:22 PM
You can take that fucking dickdrill and twist it up your ugly assvicegrip, you cuntsaw veegsocket-smelling cockdriver!
I've had dicksnot more profane than your shitdick little bullshitass motherfuckness.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 30, 2012, 10:11:23 AM
Picking a fight over petty shit is why Trayvon Martin is dead and George Zimmerman is in jail. Not a good idea. These things can escalate quickly, especially if someone is packing heat.
A man's pride >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This is why an ex cop feels its a good idea to get in a fist fight over meaningless words