Look forward to seeing how it stacks up :popcorn:
and I see that everyone else here is too.
If I remember, I'll set my DVR to record it. I doubt it'll be anywhere near as good as the original, but I'm sure it'll still be miles ahead of any other American auto-related show.
That's my thoughts on it too. It's something to keep me going until the new UK season comes out.
What channel?
It will air on History Channel.
Hmm, don't get that one.
I'm excited to see how it goes. I'm not going to hold high expectations for the first episode. Can't expect the crew to "click" as well as the Brit crew in the first few episodes.
My DVR is already set. I don't have high hopes but it can't be any worse than Motorweek.
Quote from: 93JC on November 19, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
Hmm, don't get that one.
So you Canadians missed out on Ice Road Truckers?
It airs on our "History Television", a totally different network. I suspect History Television may air Top Gear USA at some point, but we'll probably be a year or two behind (as is the case with Pawn Stars).
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 19, 2010, 10:12:14 AM
I'm excited to see how it goes. I'm not going to hold high expectations for the first episode. Can't expect the crew to "click" as well as the Brit crew in the first few episodes.
Go back and watch the first few seasons of the new Top Gear and it was almost unbearably bad. This will be light years better than those first few seasons, but it won't be as good as the current Top Gear...but that's to be expected.
I'm not going to bother watching it on Sunday; I figure the History channel will repeat it often enough that I'll catch it sometime Monday or Tuesday.
It's showing at 10 and 11 the first day.
Quote from: hotrodalex on November 19, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
I'm not going to bother watching it on Sunday; I figure the History channel will repeat it often enough that I'll catch it sometime Monday or Tuesday.
Quote from: 93JC on November 19, 2010, 11:42:39 AM
It airs on our "History Television", a totally different network. I suspect History Television may air Top Gear USA at some point, but we'll probably be a year or two behind (as is the case with Pawn Stars).
I'm sure you'll be able to download US Top Gear within a few hours after it's broadcast, same as UK Top Gear.
Quote from: Madman on November 19, 2010, 10:28:57 AM
My DVR is already set. I don't have high hopes but it can't be any worse than Motorweek.
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT MOTORWEEK
if on the "history channel", it will likely be repeated several times throughout the week. i will tune in :clap:!
According to Inside Line's report, the show's not bad and has potential. They said it wasn't as good as the UK version, but a large part of that is the chemistry between the hosts of the UK version which isn't really there in the US version. Granted, I wouldn't expect the same level of chemistry between the hosts right out of the gate unless said hosts had worked on other programs together, which isn't the case here. I'm holding out hope that the show lasts long enough for things to click. As much as I love the British Top Gear, it would be nice to have a similarly entertaining program that covers more cars that can actually be purchased in America (and that may not even be available elsewhere in the world).
Not too bad so far.
I'm guessing that the fat guy "Rutledge," will not last. Hopefully Adam Carolla can step in for season two.
Quote from: Morris Minor on November 21, 2010, 08:31:10 PM
I'm guessing that the fat guy "Rutledge," will not last. Hopefully Adam Corolla can step in for season two.
I agree. Also, the guy that interviewed Buzz Aldrin sucks. That interview was terrible.
It just keeps getting worse!
Tanner is an ok host, but he needs help.
I know what's wrong, they need an older host like Clarkson.
Yeah, part of the awesomeness of the original Top Gear is the relationship between Clarkson, May and Hammond. Those guys all seem to be pretty good storytellers too.
Not feeling the click with the these hosts, but that hopefully changes. And I agree re: Buzz Aldrin's interviewer. Not good.
It's been one episode you nutjobs. Give their relationships a goddamn chance to develop. :rolleyes:
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 21, 2010, 09:07:56 PM
It's been one episode you nutjobs. Give their relationships a goddamn chance to develop. :rolleyes:
They need to bond? :wub:
The northern sounding guy who interviewed Buzz Aldrin sucked. And you have a man like Buzz Aldrin and you can't think of anything good to ask him?
Also a Viper wouldn't make it out of the parking lot vs a Cobra. But I realize it's just for entertainment so that's ok. And I know the real Top Gear did something like this too.
Not so sure about the fat guy. But I'll hold off on him until he's had some time. The Yankee sucks however.
The young guy who looks like Apollo from Battlestar Galactica seems ok to me. And it's obvious he's the one with skills in driving.
The camera work was good and in the end that's what I want to see. Nice cars with good shots.
Yeah, the dude that interviewed Mr. Aldrin was pretty pathetic. The fat dude seems to be there for relative comedic value, regardless of his driving skills (a May character). And the other guy does indeed seem to be the one with the real driving skills. He handled that Viper like a boss.
Tanner has that sportscar show on Speed and he's a pro drifter so he's a pretty legit.
"Pro drifter" and "legit" do not belong in the same sentence. Tanner Foust is a boob.
Well maybe not, but has some driving skills.
And he also holds a degree in molecular biology.
Quote from: 93JC on November 21, 2010, 10:32:05 PM
"Pro drifter" and "legit" do not belong in the same sentence. Tanner Foust is a boob.
He's a legitimate rally race driver. Boob? Possibly. But he's not a hack.
lol. in the Viper ACR lap, you can see that they painted the "Great Park" orange balloon as a jacko lantern
Quote from: The Pirate on November 21, 2010, 10:47:40 PM
And he also holds a degree in molecular biology.
Exactly what I'm looking for in a racing driver and a television presenter! :rolleyes:
Okay, this being the first episode, I'm willing to cut these guys some slack. The beardy one had a couple of clever lines but was mostly just annoying. Foust can drive, I'll give him that. But I don't think he has a strong enough personality to carry off the role of lead presenter. The show needs a Clarksonesque front-man to set the tone. Overall, it was like watching a cover band perfoming one of your favourite songs; it was okay but you've seen it done better by the original artists.
I have to admit, the choice of presenters is somewhat puzzling. Due to his driving skills (and despite coming from the dubious "sport" of drifting), I can understand Foust's presence. Beardy and the New York-sounding guy must both have really good agents. How else would these two have landed a place on Top Gear, above all the other candidates? I honestly think I could have done a better job.
A fundamental problem with any American take on Top Gear is the need for commercial interruptions. Not only do you lose about 20 minutes to companies trying to sell you things you don't want, it also interrupts the "flow" of the show. A good Top Gear segment tells a story while enticing you with it's visual presentation. The producers really can't pace the segment and build up to a crescendo when the story is abruptly halted to make room for an ad for the new Dwane "The Rock" Johnson action film, another for Apple laptop computers and a plug for Conan O'Brian's new talk show.
All in all, it's a mixed bag of results and I'm sure it will get better with time. As it happens, my initial assessment was correct; despite it's shortcomings, it's still better than Motorweek.
THAT MUFFIN TOP IN THE BEGINNING CAN'T UNSEE.
It seemed to me that the hosts' personalities were kind of held back by the script or something. I think for the challenges and such it should be much better due to the more lax environment.
Did any of you notice that the people in the crowd all had big, fake smiles the whole show? I don't know if this was because people smile when they know a tv camera is on them. Or if it's because the makers of the show asked them to all look really happy. But I always find it fake looking when everyone is happy for an hour.
A small thing I know.
I shall watch the rerun.... no way in Hell I was staying up that late to watch
Quote from: Madman on November 22, 2010, 02:30:12 AM
Exactly what I'm looking for in a racing driver and a television presenter! :rolleyes:
Okay, this being the first episode, I'm willing to cut these guys some slack. The beardy one had a couple of clever lines but was mostly just annoying. Foust can drive, I'll give him that. But I don't think he has a strong enough personality to carry off the role of lead presenter. The show needs a Clarksonesque front-man to set the tone. Overall, it was like watching a cover band perfoming one of your favourite songs; it was okay but you've seen it done better by the original artists.
I have to admit, the choice of presenters is somewhat puzzling. Due to his driving skills (and despite coming from the dubious "sport" of drifting), I can understand Foust's presence. Beardy and the New York-sounding guy must both have really good agents. How else would these two have landed a place on Top Gear, above all the other candidates? I honestly think I could have done a better job.
A fundamental problem with any American take on Top Gear is the need for commercial interruptions. Not only do you lose about 20 minutes to companies trying to sell you things you don't want, it also interrupts the "flow" of the show. A good Top Gear segment tells a story while enticing you with it's visual presentation. The producers really can't pace the segment and build up to a crescendo when the story is abruptly halted to make room for an ad for the new Dwane "The Rock" Johnson action film, another for Apple laptop computers and a plug for Conan O'Brian's new talk show.
All in all, it's a mixed bag of results and I'm sure it will get better with time. As it happens, my initial assessment was correct; despite it's shortcomings, it's still better than Motorweek.
Carolla would be perfect for the Clarkson role - knows about cars, some track experience, articulate, funny, & non-PC.
Motorweek needs to be taken out back and put out of its misery.
Well, it was the first show so a bit of arkwardness can be forgiven, IMHO. I expect there is a bit of role defining still going on. It's not reasonable to expect the first show with new presenters to be a glib or polished as a show that's been on what, 10 years or so. May, Clarkson and Hammond have had years to mold and refine their individual roles, these guys have had 60 minutes.
Production values and editing looked good (a huge strength of the British original) and it was different enough that it wasn't just a 100% copy of the original with non-British accents. I thought the
pacing was a tad slow because they had to not only introduce, but explain each segment for an assumed first time audience. That will cure itself as the season progresses.
I went into this not knowing a thing about the three presenters so I had no preestablished biases about them. They did all right IMHO and I expect they will grow into their roles. If I had one criticizm it's that they are all about the same age, I think. Clarkson's about 10 years older ( and 10 inches taller) than Hammond and 3 years older than May and I think those age differences fuel some of the interplay between the three of them.
Brock Yates might have been good for the Clarksonesque role if he was younger...although he would mention the Cannonball Run every 5 minutes.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on November 21, 2010, 08:33:04 PM
I agree. Also, the guy that interviewed Buzz Aldrin sucks. That interview was terrible.
Have you ever held a conversation with Buzz Aldrin? I have. Based on my experience I'd say he is a pretty tough interview; hard to get a long response from.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on November 22, 2010, 09:20:57 AM
Have you ever held a conversation with Buzz Aldrin? I have. Based on my experience I'd say he is a pretty tough interview; hard to get a long response from.
That's really interesting, when did you have this opportunity, if you don't mind sharing? And that certainly adds some perspective to Ferrara's dialogue with him.
Seinfeld would be perfect
Quote from: EtypeJohn on November 22, 2010, 09:20:57 AM
Have you ever held a conversation with Buzz Aldrin? I have. Based on my experience I'd say he is a pretty tough interview; hard to get a long response from.
Well that was a mistake on the part of the producers, you need to find guest that are good interviewers but I still think that New York guy didn't do a very good job. Getting Adam on the show would've been a good idea and he would have done a good job at interviewing guest since he has experience doing that on radio and tv.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 10:18:58 AM
That's really interesting, when did you have this opportunity, if you don't mind sharing? And that certainly adds some perspective to Ferrara's dialogue with him.
I don't mean to give the impression we are or were pals or on a first name basis. :lol:
He was Grand Marshall at Lakewood Yacht Club's Wooden Keels and Classic Wheels concours a few years back. He was giving autographs and his tent was next to the Jaguar section of the field (I was a concours entrant) so I walked over during a break before the public flooded him with requests and we chatted briefly about the concours, NASA, the moon. Maybe 3-5 minutes, nothing deep. He struck me as a very quiet, introspective person who doesn't gab a lot.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on November 22, 2010, 11:28:08 AM
I don't mean to give the impression we are or were pals or on a first name basis. :lol:
He was Grand Marshall at Lakewood Yacht Club's Wooden Keels and Classic Wheels concours a few years back. He was giving autographs and his tent was next to the Jaguar section of the field (I was a concours entrant) so I walked over during a break before the public flooded him with requests and we chatted briefly about the concours, NASA, the moon. Maybe 3-5 minutes, nothing deep. He struck me as a very quiet, introspective person who doesn't gab a lot.
That's awesome! Five minutes and small talk or not, very cool to get the chance to talk with such a significant figure in history.
What do these three guys do when they're not circle jerking on the History Channel?
Quote from: the Teuton on November 22, 2010, 02:00:11 PM
What do these three guys do when they're not circle jerking on the History Channel?
Ferrara acts, currently on
Rescue Me. Rutledge Wood is a NASCAR analyst (:lol:) for Speed Channel. Tanner Foust, is a rally driver/drifting competitor.
Anybody else think that Tanner Foust is the Stig?
The Stig was brought in because they needed a racing driver. In this series, they have one on staff. :huh:
That Viper ACR looked jittery as hell on their track.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 02:08:58 PM
Ferrara acts, currently on Rescue Me. Rutledge Wood is a NASCAR analyst (:lol:) for Speed Channel. Tanner Foust, is a rally driver/drifting competitor.
Anybody else think that Tanner Foust is the Stig?
Foust is also a professional stunt-driver for TV and film. He did stunt work for the Bourne Ultimatum, Iron Man 2, Dukes of Hazzard and a couple of the Fast and Furious movies (Tokyo Drift and the most recent one).
That ACR is harass and bad fast.
I just watched the Viper vs. Cobra Helicopter segment and it was actually pretty entertaining. I'll watch the rest tonight.
I actually thought the Viper segment was too contrived. The Lamborghini one was pretty good though. The banter will get better.
I actually like Ferrara the best as a host. Foust is awesome, no doubt. A little quiet, but I'm sure he'll talk up more as it goes on. I wasn't a fan of the big guy with the beard. Seemed kind of awkward. I think all of them were a little scripted, so a little more freedom would be nice (and that may come once the show gets rolling)
edit: actually, Wood is pretty good in the Lambo segment. We'll have to see next episode (and the rest of the season)
The banter seemed forced and scripted. I'm sure some of the banter on the UK version is scripted as well, but it seems much more genuine. Hopefully these guys will get better and perhaps improvise more of their lines. Ferrara, being a comedian, I'm sure can be pretty quick on his feet when it comes to making quips unscripted, and that's really what I think the hosts of the show should be able to do. Hopefully the others are equally as capable and that will come out as they get more time.
Best line of the episode: "There's no Tupperware in space."
:lol: :lol:
for anyone that hasn't seen it:
http://www.history.com/shows/top-gear/videos?paidlink=1&vid=HIS_SEM_Search&keywords=top%2Bgear%2Busa&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=top%20gear&utm_term=top%20gear%20usa#top-gear-cobra-attack
Not bad, not bad at all. Some of the conversation was a bit awkward, particularly from Rutledge's end, but overall I think it has a lot of potential. I'm a fan.
Yeah, the thing that most of seem to be forgetting is that it's another car show that's not NASCAR or mad-tyte doriftos, yo.
I think you guys are being unfairly harsh on Rutledge. He had some pretty funny lines. I think it's pretty good for a first episode. The first few years of Top Gear UK were pretty bad. These guys are already better than they were in Seasons 1 through 4. Oh and the banter on the UK show is mostly scripted too, so give these guys a break. I don't want it to be exactly the same as the UK version because then it comes off cheesy and lame. This has got legs man.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on November 19, 2010, 11:18:55 AM
So you Canadians missed out on Ice Road Truckers?
Hell no. I actually liked that show for a while. Maybe he doesn't have the same cable package I do. :rastaman:
Quote from: Northlands on November 22, 2010, 07:31:17 PM
Hell no. I actually liked that show for a while. Maybe he doesn't have the same cable package I do. :rastaman:
Too bad they aren't driving over actual frozen lakes anymore, that shit was crazy.
Viper pt. 1:
-Rutledge is too stiff as a stage host.
-Tanner is one hell of a driver, almost too much so.
-None of them have that great of inflection for narration.
-Steady cam? What's that?
-Great idea for a game. I still like the tank and a Panda idea better so far, though.
Okay, back to the episode...
One thing that really disappointed me was that there was no corny power ballads or anything playing in the cockpit cam while the Stig was running his lap. That's a direct knockoff of the British program, I know, and this show does need to differentiate, but I really got a kick out of that.
pt. 2
-Commercials kill the flow of the show.
-I don't like the NY guy. They need Adam Carolla.
-I do like Rutledge Wood. I think he'll fit in as this show gets going.
-I think the American Top Gear track is trickier than the British track.
-They all seem stiff.
-Oh yeah, commercials kill the flow of the show.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
One thing that really disappointed me was that there was no corny power ballads or anything playing in the cockpit cam while the Stig was running his lap. That's a direct knockoff of the British program, I know, and this show does need to differentiate, but I really got a kick out of that.
+4,000,000
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 22, 2010, 05:57:47 PM
Best line of the episode: "There's no Tupperware in space."
:lol: :lol:
No way dude. Best was when they were making fun of Tanner Foust's drifting background, saying "you're the Brian Boitano of racing".
Quote from: the Teuton on November 22, 2010, 08:16:22 PM
pt. 2
-Commercials kill the flow of the show.
-I don't like the NY guy. They need Adam Carolla.
-I do like Rutledge Wood. I think he'll fit in as this show gets going.
-I think the American Top Gear track is trickier than the British track.
-They all seem stiff.
-Oh yeah, commercials kill the flow of the show.
No way, dude. I think the NY guy (Adam Ferrara) has potential. He was the most animated of the group. And screaming "fuck!" every time he shifted when doing the run in the Lambo? Awesome.
Buzz part
-Who's the lead host of this show? One of them needs to be the frontman to this three-piece band.
-The big moving Stig in the background is distracting...and amateurish.
-Where's the interview with Buzz? All they're doing is asking him about his cars, which is cool and all, but I want to hear a little more interview and a little less reading off from a list.
-Is the Teardrop the slowest part of their track? I've only heard that twice so far.
-Terrible mounting places for the camera in the car.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 08:23:40 PM
No way, dude. I think the NY guy (Adam Ferrara) has potential. He was the most animated of the group. And screaming "fuck!" every time he shifted when doing the run in the Lambo? Awesome.
Haven't gotten that far yet.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 08:23:40 PM
No way, dude. I think the NY guy (Adam Ferrara) has potential. He was the most animated of the group. And screaming "fuck!" every time he shifted when doing the run in the Lambo? Awesome.
That was pretty damn hilarious. :lol:
Lambo part 1:
-Great intro and production. One ups a lot of the Brit version's lately...which is certainly a compliment.
-Ferrara does better with the Gallardo piece. "That's a polycarbonate window so you can see the engine." Why, asks the unassuming, first-time viewer, is it polycarbonate instead of glass?
-Simile, simile, trite metaphor, etc. This show makes me miss Clarkson.
-Where are the completely politically incorrect rants? They haven't insulted anyone or anything yet except, perhaps, Catholics. But Catholics are offended at just about everything.
-With the Lambos, they're bantering. This is good. They're actually showing signs of chemistry.
Lambo part 2:
-They have two funny guys in Wood and Ferrara and Foust who's not. It shows signs of life.
-Steady cam? Please? I'm begging for this one.
-Ferrara: Four F-bombs in less than 10 seconds. Now that's more like it. Sometimes when you can't master British prose, American vulgarity is the next best thing.
-With the Lambo: That Teardrop bullshit again. Can we stop with the Teardrop already?
-Not enough "Jessica." Hell, not enough music at all.
Overall: It has potential. It's worth a second viewing, Jalopnik naysayers be damned. I'll give it a C+.
Hey dudes, I know you don't realize this when you steal torrents of BBC's Top Gear, but that show has commercial breaks too; or it least, I would think so since each episode is only 41-42 minutes long.
Quote from: R-inge on November 22, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
Hey dudes, I know you don't realize this when you steal torrents of BBC's Top Gear, but that show has commercial breaks too; or it least, I would think so since each episode is only 41-42 minutes long.
No, it's usually 58-61 minutes.
Quote from: R-inge on November 22, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
Hey dudes, I know you don't realize this when you steal torrents of BBC's Top Gear, but that show has commercial breaks too; or it least, I would think so since each episode is only 41-42 minutes long.
Whenever I watch it, they are 61 minutes long.
Quote from: R-inge on November 22, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
Hey dudes, I know you don't realize this when you steal torrents of BBC's Top Gear, but that show has commercial breaks too; or it least, I would think so since each episode is only 41-42 minutes long.
nah, BBC can pick to not put commercials on. They can get lots of tax moneys......
Quote from: the Teuton on November 22, 2010, 08:16:22 PM
pt. 2
-Commercials kill the flow of the show.
-I don't like the NY guy. They need Adam Carolla.
-I do like Rutledge Wood. I think he'll fit in as this show gets going.
-I think the American Top Gear track is trickier than the British track.
-They all seem stiff.
-Oh yeah, commercials kill the flow of the show.
So record it and watch it later skipping the commercials.
Commercials are the price we pay for not having our television publically funded. (thank god for that too)
Quote from: the Teuton on November 22, 2010, 08:25:59 PM
Buzz part
-Is the Teardrop the slowest part of their track? I've only heard that twice so far.
Seems like the UK version always mentions how difficult the hammer head is as well.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 22, 2010, 08:41:25 PM
Lambo part 1:
-Great intro and production. One ups a lot of the Brit version's lately...which is certainly a compliment.
-Ferrara does better with the Gallardo piece. "That's a polycarbonate window so you can see the engine." Why, asks the unassuming, first-time viewer, is it polycarbonate instead of glass?
-Simile, simile, trite metaphor, etc. This show makes me miss Clarkson.
-Where are the completely politically incorrect rants? They haven't insulted anyone or anything yet except, perhaps, Catholics. But Catholics are offended at just about everything.
-With the Lambos, they're bantering. This is good. They're actually showing signs of chemistry.
Unlike the British version this show has sponsors who have paid money to showcase their products during the show. I don't have to tell you what that means regarding show content, but I will. "Don't offend potential customers of those sponsors".
We'll see about that last, as it's still produced by the sme people on both sides of the pond.
As was mentioend, the first fee seasons of TG UK was bad. These guys are a little better already, and the bantering during th eLambo segment shows they may develop some pretty good chemistry. From what I heard from someone at one of the studio tapings, Ferrari was VERY funny with the audience and the other two guys normally, so hopefully the writing will pick that up as the season goes on.
Tanner can drive, but he's as charismatic as a wet noodle. Rutledge seems like every average car fan I've ever know in real life and on forums. Loved him ragging on Tanner's drift background. Came off as very real, like anyone on a normal automotive forum might do.
Some of the production values were definitely TG, but going back and forth between frame rates kind of made it jarring, giving some of the cut segments a shot on video look that didn't flow with the more film-like sections.
Overall however, it started out better than TG Australia, and is still a much better car show for the US than 90% of what we get. A great way for the TG franchise to expand, since it dosn't compete with the original, just augments it.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on November 23, 2010, 07:31:50 AM
Unlike the British version this show has sponsors who have paid money to showcase their products during the show. I don't have to tell you what that means regarding show content, but I will. "Don't offend potential customers of those sponsors".
I know. But that's pretty much the biggest reason why as good as this show may get, it'll never be up there with TGUK, not quite.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 23, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
still a much better car show for the US than 90% of what we get. A great way for the TG franchise to expand, since it dosn't compete with the original, just augments it.
that alone is reason enough for it to stick around. I'm grateful enough for that.
Quote from: R-inge on November 22, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
Hey dudes, I know you don't realize this when you steal torrents of BBC's Top Gear, but that show has commercial breaks too; or it least, I would think so since each episode is only 41-42 minutes long.
When I was in Scotland and saw TG UK on the BBC, it had comercial breaks. And when you watch TG even on DVD (or from a torrent) you can see where those breaks are.
Do y'all not get UK Top Gear on BBCA? I do. :huh:
Quote from: Tave on November 23, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Do y'all not get UK Top Gear on BBCA? I do. :huh:
I do.
I live on a college campus. We have shitty cable service here. Torrents it is!
Quote from: MrH on November 23, 2010, 02:14:45 PM
I live on a college campus. We have shitty cable service here. Torrents it is!
Quote from: HotRodPilot on November 22, 2010, 06:36:07 PM
for anyone that hasn't seen it:
http://www.history.com/shows/top-gear/videos?paidlink=1&vid=HIS_SEM_Search&keywords=top%2Bgear%2Busa&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=top%20gear&utm_term=top%20gear%20usa#top-gear-cobra-attack
Edit: I guess you were talkin' 'bout TG UK
Quote from: Tave on November 23, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Do y'all not get UK Top Gear on BBCA? I do. :huh:
Only since this most recent season did we get the same thing as they do across the pond. Previously we got edited versions.
Quote from: 68_427 on November 23, 2010, 04:16:12 PM
Only since this most recent season did we get the same thing as they do across the pond. Previously we got edited versions.
Ah, I see. I just got cable in May, so I'm in the dark on this stuff.
So that makes it clear why they wanted to do a US version a few years ago, but it seems kind of superfluous now that we have ready access to the real thing.
Yeah we are getting the real thing but we get it a few months after they do. Plus is an opportunity to get more Americans watching the BBC, top gear, and possibly buy merchandise.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 22, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
One thing that really disappointed me was that there was no corny power ballads or anything playing in the cockpit cam while the Stig was running his lap. That's a direct knockoff of the British program, I know, and this show does need to differentiate, but I really got a kick out of that.
The ACR probably didn't have a radio (it's a delete option IIRC)
Quote from: hotrodalex on November 23, 2010, 06:17:18 PM
The ACR probably didn't have a radio (it's a delete option IIRC)
Uh, yeah, methinks you don't understand.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 23, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
Uh, yeah, methinks you don't understand.
?
They never have any music going when there's no radio.
Yeah, that's right, I remember it from the Ariel Atom episode.
The test track looks too damn slow and bumpy
Quote from: r0tor on November 23, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
The test track looks too damn slow and bumpy
That's what I was thinkin'. Though it might've looked so bumpy because the ACR is so tight and rigid...the other cars didn't seem to bump around as much. Definitely seems slow, though, yes.
Quote from: r0tor on November 23, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
The test track looks too damn slow and bumpy
The UK track isn't all that high speed. It's also a figure-8.
I don't know. I thought the cars hit pretty good speeds going past the tires.
Quote from: Tave on November 23, 2010, 04:48:03 PM
So that makes it clear why they wanted to do a US version a few years ago, but it seems kind of superfluous now that we have ready access to the real thing.
Superfluous? Most of the US hasn't seen TG UK, and woudn't get the referfences or give two shi'ts about some Citroen we don't even get here. For he American market, doing segments on cars we get ehre woudl be more important, say a GTO instead of a Vauxhall, things like that. A segment on a diesel Jaguar vs a diesel Polo is completely irrelevant in the US for most people.
Also, Rutledge posted on Honda-tech after the airing:
QuoteWhat's up guys...
Tom called me as I was raking leaves in the backyard and we talked about the thread. He thought I should drop in and at least say hello. Cool to see so many people watched...so thank you for that.
I'm not on H-T that much anymore, and I lost my old screen name because I never posted....I was one of those people that didn't enjoy it when new people asked "dumb" questions and all of the lovely H-T Elitists crapped on them. So...now I'm on because I'm working on an 83 Civic Wagon. I'll post some pics soon...VtecKidd has been a big help on it so far.
And I should definitely say thanks to Mike and Tom for vouching for me....nice dudes.
Here's a couple things I can shed some light on and maybe I can answer some questions at some point-
1. I am indeed 6'3'' 225lbs, so if the skinny bitch wants to drop the "he's making fat jokes" let me say this. I'm not fat. I can't fit in that tiny ass seat in the lambo and after 4 days, I had bruised my hips a bit. When you stand next to two guys that are 5'8'' and a buck 50, you look bigger. And if you've lived under a rock and never heard the phrase " the camera adds 10 lbs" then let me tell you that's not just a saying...Most importantly if the funniest thing you can come up with to not like me for is my weight, then congratulations..we went to Middle School together. Now say something about my mom and we'll fight after school.
2. I'm a car guy on tv, not the other way around, so I don't know much about cameras and mounts. The reason the camera was so shaky on Tanner's Lambo run was because he killed a set of $1300 tires that morning drifting that thing around the airport. As he was doing the standing mile chunks of rubber were flying off. Not something I would have done, but then again, racecar drivers are stupid
3. Brace yourself for this statement: A LARGE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTRY HAS NEVER HEARD OF TOP GEAR. Whew. Sorry. All caps needed. We had to do certain things to explain the format to people who've never seen any worldwide version of Top Gear ever.
I think the shows get better and better...and I hope everyone will watch and tell their friends about it. If you'd rather go back to watching "Pimp my Ride" I think that's your loss.
BBC Worldwide Productions (who makes TG UK) made this show hand in hand with History. The goal was never to attempt to fill the roles of the three unique hosts of the UK show, or it would have been a failure from the start. SO what you have instead is 3 very different car guys with very different backgrounds. As the season goes on, our roles and backgrounds and what most people would call "characters" will be more defined and much richer. But that takes time. We have 44 minutes to have fun with cars and try to entertain you.
This is a sister show to the UK one. We had many of the same producers and writers that the UK show has. It is not meant to be a replacement show, but a companion. I certainly understand why everyone is comparing to the UK show, but I didn't have time to call all the fanboys like me across the US to explain what we were doing.
A tiny bit about me: I love cars. I always have. I have too many of them. I love my Hondas that I've had, and I wish terribly I was short enough to fit in an S2000 without killing my legs as is the current situation.
The highlights for me in making this show have been all the cool people I've met. Two of my favorites : Brian Gillispie from HASport and MerritITR from this here website.
Brian is one of the most down to earth people I've ever met in the auto industry and a guy who's followed his heart without excuses and has made some rad cars.
Merritt is a brilliant woman who, if you don't know, was really one of the first females in the Honda game that took stuff to the next level. Not only is she cute, and sweet, she's smarter than me and almost anyone on this board. She now works for GM and I believe in my heart she might make a Chevy Volt cool and fast.
I also have a little perspective. I'm on tons of forums because I love and have owned so many different cars. I'm a husband and a father, and that's the most important thing in the world to me...not wether or not strangers like it when I wear plaid, which I did in almost every show. I like to have fun. Whenever and in whatever I'm doing.
I also am the only host who can't wait how to incorporate a 96 Midori green EK hatch with a HASport mounted K-swap...so I've got that going for me...which is nice.
I've also had a $110,000 Maserati Cabio Corsa loaned to me for a weekend many years ago, and I got my ass stomped in it by Tom's ITR powered EG which I believe he has less than either 13K or 11K in it. Now how many other Top Gear hosts can say that?
Lastly, I hope you watch. I hope you tell your friends to watch. There's no reason we can't or shouldn't have our own version of Top Gear here in the US, and it's happening. I'm damn glad to be a part of it and I hope you watch. If you liked it, watch. If you didn't like it, watch and then get online and tell someone why.
BUT if you think this country should have bad ass automotive programming that's still part of the mainstream, then sit back, make some popcorn and watch a fun show with 3 idiots doing things in cars that you talk about with your friends.
Peace,
Rut
Quote from: ChrisV on November 24, 2010, 06:26:18 AM
Superfluous? Most of the US hasn't seen TG UK, and woudn't get the referfences or give two shi'ts about some Citroen we don't even get here. For he American market, doing segments on cars we get ehre woudl be more important, say a GTO instead of a Vauxhall, things like that. A segment on a diesel Jaguar vs a diesel Polo is completely irrelevant in the US for most people.
I'm not buying it. My guess is the vast majority of TG US viewers are (die-hard) fans of the original.
Quote from: Tave on November 24, 2010, 07:02:46 AM
I'm not buying it. My guess is the vast majority of TG US viewers are (die-hard) fans of the original.
I agree. If they wanted to reach out to a "mainstream" audience, they sure have hell wouldn't have stuck USTG on the History Channel! By the way, what's going on with History Channel lately? Have they finally run out of World War Two documentaries?
I would be more inclined to believe the claims of wanting to attract a mainstream audience had the show been on NBC. (or even on Discovery Channel, as had been originally planned a few years ago).
Quote from: Madman on November 24, 2010, 08:39:02 AM
I agree. If they wanted to reach out to a "mainstream" audience, they sure have hell wouldn't have stuck USTG on the History Channel! By the way, what's going on with History Channel lately? Have they finally run out of World War Two documentaries?
I would be more inclined to believe the claims of wanting to attract a mainstream audience had the show been on NBC. (or even on Discovery Channel, as had been originally planned a few years ago).
History redefined their scope with that logo design and the new slogan, "History made every day." No channel sticks to its niche anymore, cable programming is just a reality show desert nowadays.
Fact: My mom is not a Top Gear diehard. She got me my "I am the Stig" t-shirt, but she doesn't know much about the UK show.
That said, she watched all 44 minutes of the US Top Gear, and she's planning on watching again next week.
That makes me happy because it's just another thing I can talk about with my parents. After a few days of reflection about the quality of the show and the fact that it made a viewer out of my mom, I'd call that a success.
All they really need to do now is fix the music situation and do better interviews.
Quote from: Tave on November 24, 2010, 07:02:46 AM
I'm not buying it. My guess is the vast majority of TG US viewers are (die-hard) fans of the original.
Factually not true. A lot of American TG viewers don't get/watch BBC America OR torrent the original show.
Quote from: Madman on November 24, 2010, 08:39:02 AM
I agree. If they wanted to reach out to a "mainstream" audience, they sure have hell wouldn't have stuck USTG on the History Channel!
I would be more inclined to believe the claims of wanting to attract a mainstream audience had the show been on NBC.
Actually they went to NBC first, and even started getting a pilot ready. But with the total and utter failure of that POS remake of "Knight Rider", NBC decided that "Americans don't like car shows." :rolleyes:
So A&E decided it would be a good fit for History's current reinvention "History is made every day" campaign to counter Discovery's HD Theater. Which does open them up to doing more historical automotive bits, and American automotive history is quite rich.
I don't think it helps this show's case that it goes head-to-head with Brewmasters.
I saw Brewmasters too, great show.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 24, 2010, 11:29:06 AM
I don't think it helps this show's case that it goes head-to-head with Brewmasters.
What does that say about Merry Cans?
Quote from: ChrisV on November 24, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
Factually not true. A lot of American TG viewers don't get/watch BBC America OR torrent the original show.
Factually?
Quote from: Madman on November 24, 2010, 08:39:02 AM
I agree. If they wanted to reach out to a "mainstream" audience, they sure have hell wouldn't have stuck USTG on the History Channel! By the way, what's going on with History Channel lately? Have they finally run out of World War Two documentaries?
I would be more inclined to believe the claims of wanting to attract a mainstream audience had the show been on NBC. (or even on Discovery Channel, as had been originally planned a few years ago).
"WWII in HD" was amazing.
The only channels I watch regularly are History, Science, and NatGeo. I'm a huuuuuge History Channel buff. Yes, they've gone more towards reality shows (Pawn Stars, American Pickers, etc.) but they aren't "reality" shows that totally suck. There's still some intrinsic value to them because you're actually learning stuff and watching something engaging and interesting. Also, Ancient Aliens seems to have gained some ground lately, too, and I fuckin' love that show. It's gone from a Saturday afternoon re-run show to a premier-slot show. Love it.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 24, 2010, 10:52:05 AM
Fact: My mom is not a Top Gear diehard. She got me my "I am the Stig" t-shirt, but she doesn't know much about the UK show.
That said, she watched all 44 minutes of the US Top Gear, and she's planning on watching again next week.
That makes me happy because it's just another thing I can talk about with my parents. After a few days of reflection about the quality of the show and the fact that it made a viewer out of my mom, I'd call that a success.
All they really need to do now is fix the music situation and do better interviews.
She only watched it because her son, a TG fanatic, told her to watch it.
Quote from: ChrisV on November 24, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
Factually not true. A lot of American TG viewers don't get/watch BBC America OR torrent the original show.
Oh, you have the facts handy, do you? Mind sharing with the rest of us?
I'm sure a lot of American TG viewers don't get BBCA, but I'm pretty sure those that don't torrent it.
Otherwise...how would they be a viewer if they aren't viewing it? :huh: :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 24, 2010, 03:46:50 PM
I'm sure a lot of American TG viewers don't get BBCA, but I'm pretty sure those that don't torrent it.
Otherwise...how would they be a viewer if they aren't viewing it? :huh: :lol:
Most people I know, watch it on YouTube.
Quote from: Tave on November 24, 2010, 03:44:42 PM
She only watched it because her son, a TG fanatic, told her to watch it.
Believe it or not, her son did no such thing.
The episode tonight is pretty good. The Ruthledge guy or whatever his name is does a decent job interviewing.
Better than the first. It will never replace the original for me. But so far it's ok. Better than nothing at all.
I thought the "oh my god the British lied on the speedometer!" joke was pretty fucking stupid. Pretty much every goddamn speedometer "lies." It was slightly comical the first time, but then he used it again later. Come on.
I lol'd at the dog pissing on the stage.
Quote from: 68_427 on November 29, 2010, 04:42:52 AM
I lol'd at the dog pissing on the stage.
That was classic.
The opening segment of the Evo vs. the skiiers was a lot of fun to watch. Tanner is an excellent driver, he was drifting around so many of those corners and that looked like a blast. Frankly, I was surprised he wasn't wearing a helmet. It really showed the true colors of the Evo, and it was only a second slower around the track than the V12 Vantage (which I :wub:).
Quote from: 68_427 on November 29, 2010, 04:42:52 AM
I lol'd at the dog pissing on the stage.
Didn't seem like he was a fan of the show :lol:
Yeah, big fan of the second episode, the guys seem to be meshing a lot better. And the EVO vs. skiers was pretty awesome.
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 28, 2010, 10:52:37 PM
I thought the "oh my god the British lied on the speedometer!" joke was pretty fucking stupid. Pretty much every goddamn speedometer "lies." It was slightly comical the first time, but then he used it again later. Come on.
It was still interesting to note that the V12 Vantage's speedo only goes up to 200 and the V8 goes up to 220 :lol:
I don't like that the show is sponsored by Mercedes-Benz now.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 29, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
I don't like that the show is sponsored by Mercedes-Benz now.
worst case scenario: one of the hosts is replaced with Christian Wimmer.
Gonna watch Episode 2 tonight.
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 29, 2010, 02:00:55 PM
worst case scenario: one of the hosts is replaced with Christian Wimmer.
The commercials are so much H&H that it's ridiculous.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 29, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
I don't like that the show is sponsored by Mercedes-Benz now.
Would you prefer it to be sponsored by Downy? This way we get to see car commercials during the commercial breaks.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 29, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
I don't like that the show is sponsored by Mercedes-Benz now.
Shocked it wasn't Hyundai since they do a lot of ads on History.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 29, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
Would you prefer it to be sponsored by Downy? This way we get to see car commercials during the commercial breaks.
I *would* rather it be sponsored by Downy. Because Downy won't care if the presenters call a car a piece of crap.
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 29, 2010, 03:29:17 PM
I *would* rather it be sponsored by Downy. Because Downy won't care if the presenters call a car a piece of crap.
+1
Quote from: the Teuton on November 29, 2010, 02:08:13 PM
The commercials are so much H&H that it's ridiculous.
just thought of an even worse case scenario: title of the show changes to "History & Heritage Hour (and stand-up comedy) with Christian Wimmer"
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 29, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
Would you prefer it to be sponsored by Downy? This way we get to see car commercials during the commercial breaks.
Yes but it's a MB commercial. Who cares about them?
Quote from: Vinsanity on November 29, 2010, 03:29:17 PM
I *would* rather it be sponsored by Downy. Because Downy won't care if the presenters call a car a piece of crap.
Ok, fair enough. But does this line of thinking keep you only listening to Consumer Reports? All car the magazines are sponsored by car companies also.
Quote from: the Teuton on November 24, 2010, 10:52:05 AM
Fact: My mom is not a Top Gear diehard. She got me my "I am the Stig" t-shirt, but she doesn't know much about the UK show.
That said, she watched all 44 minutes of the US Top Gear, and she's planning on watching again next week.
That makes me happy because it's just another thing I can talk about with my parents. After a few days of reflection about the quality of the show and the fact that it made a viewer out of my mom, I'd call that a success.
All they really need to do now is fix the music situation and do better interviews.
My mother, who can't discern a Ford from a Ferrari, LOVES the UK Top Gear, can't stand the US version.
Quote from: J86 on November 29, 2010, 03:53:13 PM
My mother, who can't discern a Ford from a Ferrari, LOVES the UK Top Gear, can't stand the US version.
Likely because the UK version has something this one completely lacks: charm.
They still had an anti-Mercedes comment at the end of the Aston piece, so the ads didn't affect anything (at least in this episode)
I'm optimistic for the U.S. version. The second episode was markedly better than the first.
And what's the alternative, guys? Motor Trend TV?
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 29, 2010, 03:50:06 PM
Ok, fair enough. But does this line of thinking keep you only listening to Consumer Reports? All car the magazines are sponsored by car companies also.
This does pose an interesting conundrum. The UK version is wholly paid for by the BBC, so all they have to worry about is giving flak to the government, which they quite clearly still do instead. The US version, on the other hand, definitely has needs for outside funding, so the bias problem arises.
They did mention, when talking about the price of the V12 Vantage, that "for that money, you could get a Mercedes SLS or a Porsche 911 Turbo S and still have a pile of money left over." Was the SLS purposely mentioned (and perhaps implied that it is better), or were they just being objective?
On that note, I would still go for the V12 Vantage. It has its flaws, but it has an amazing exhaust note, it is absolutely stunning, is a manual only which gives it a bunch of browny points in my book, and so much more.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 29, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
It was still interesting to note that the V12 Vantage's speedo only goes up to 200 and the V8 goes up to 220 :lol:
Yes, that's rather noteworthy and interesting. But it doesn't require a pathetically stupid joke. :huh: :lol:
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 29, 2010, 04:15:46 PM
Yes, that's rather noteworthy and interesting. But it doesn't require a pathetically stupid joke. :huh: :lol:
:lol:
THE BRITS ARE LIARRRRRRS!
Didn't they use the Brian Boitano joke in the first episode?
Otherwise, a definite improvement over the first episode. My biggest complaint is still with the music. There isn't enough, and the music they do have sounds like the low-budget, generic stuff you hear on a 2nd-string reality show.
Quote from: giant_mtb on November 28, 2010, 10:52:37 PM
I thought the "oh my god the British lied on the speedometer!" joke was pretty fucking stupid. Pretty much every goddamn speedometer "lies." It was slightly comical the first time, but then he used it again later. Come on.
I thought it was clever. Payback for Hammond not understanding how horsepower works in the GT500 segment on the UK TG.
And the cinematography in the Aston segment was every bit as good as anything I remember seeing on the UK one.
It looked like they did at least two runs on the ski vs evo segment. One for the actual competition and one for photography purposes. Note they never showed him passing the bus or the propane truck turning off.
Quote from: MX793 on November 29, 2010, 05:10:14 PM
Didn't they use the Brian Boitano joke in the first episode?
Otherwise, a definite improvement over the first episode. My biggest complaint is still with the music. There isn't enough, and the music they do have sounds like the low-budget, generic stuff you hear on a 2nd-string reality show.
They used Smashing Pumpkins, though you'd never know...
Quote from: MX793 on November 29, 2010, 05:10:14 PM
Didn't they use the Brian Boitano joke in the first episode?
Otherwise, a definite improvement over the first episode. My biggest complaint is still with the music. There isn't enough, and the music they do have sounds like the low-budget, generic stuff you hear on a 2nd-string reality show.
No, the Boitano joke was just in the previews for the second episode that played when the first episode aired.
Quote from: TBR on November 29, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
I thought it was clever. Payback for Hammond not understanding how horsepower works in the GT500 segment on the UK TG.
And the cinematography in the Aston segment was every bit as good as anything I remember seeing on the UK one.
It looked like they did at least two runs on the ski vs evo segment. One for the actual competition and one for photography purposes. Note they never showed him passing the bus or the propane truck turning off.
Payback? I just thought it made him sound like an idiot. :huh:
And yes, the cinematography is pretty much just as good as TGUK. :rockon:
Quote from: the Teuton on November 29, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
They used Smashing Pumpkins, though you'd never know...
I certainly caught it. Cherub Rock is one of my favorite Pumpkins songs. It sounded like they also used an intro from a One Republic song in the Aston segment. Not too many complaints about the music from me, to be honest.
I LOL'd at the "Brits are liars" line since it was a total dig at Top Gear UK. I thought it was great. I was pretty impressed with Tanner's driving in the snow too. That was impressive. Unfortunately he's kind of awkward otherwise. The other two are much better at presenting. He's a damn good driver though. All in all it was a good episode.
The test track has no drama to it.... the star in the car is dreadfully boring compared to the British equivalent
Quote from: r0tor on November 30, 2010, 07:39:42 PM
The test track has no drama to it.... the star in the car is dreadfully boring compared to the British equivalent
Seems like the test track in this series is a lot bigger than the British one.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on November 30, 2010, 09:27:29 PM
Seems like the test track in this series is a lot bigger than the British one.
It's only a couple seconds longer. The UK track is a figure 8 though.
I feel bad for the blind guy because he wasn't able to see the cool move he pulled off in the car.
The dog was hilarious.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on November 29, 2010, 12:03:18 PM
It was still interesting to note that the V12 Vantage's speedo only goes up to 200 and the V8 goes up to 220 :lol:
Yeah srsly.
Quote from: The Pirate on November 29, 2010, 11:59:28 AM
Yeah, big fan of the second episode, the guys seem to be meshing a lot better. And the EVO vs. skiers was pretty awesome.
I concur. People are WAY overreacting to the flaws of this show. We all knew it wasn't going to be as good as the UK version, particularly this early in the series. And the cinematography is just as good as the UK show.
So many people want it to be exactly the same as the UK version and I don't know why. If it was exactly the same, everyone would complain it was exactly the same.
I think the lack of British accents is a factor in thinking it's not as good. It's almost as if the American accents are more boring.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 01, 2010, 02:15:01 PM
So many people want it to be exactly the same as the UK version and I don't know why. If it was exactly the same, everyone would complain it was exactly the same.
God I don't want it to be the same. I'd almost rather they not have the Star in the car part myself. I don't even like it much in the UK version.
All in all it's better then what I thought it be. I'm not too sure about the fat southerner however. At first I thought it be the norther guy I wouldn't like. Now I'm not even liking my own kind.
I do find it rather pathetic that they couldn't at least staff the show with 3 people that can actually drive a manual tranny.... yeesh Mr clutch is pathetic
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on December 01, 2010, 02:27:57 PM
I think the lack of British accents is a factor in thinking it's not as good. It's almost as if the American accents are more boring.
They are to us. Americans hear American accents all day long, but most Americans rarely hear British accents, so they're more interesting.
Quote from: Onslaught on December 01, 2010, 02:44:21 PM
God I don't want it to be the same. I'd almost rather they not have the Star in the car part myself. I don't even like it much in the UK version.
I like that segment when it's a star that I actually know (and even better if it's a star I like), but I don't see the American version becoming popular enough to attract many big name stars, though I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I suppose the list of stars for upcoming episodes has probably been leaked somewhere. Anyone know where to find that?
Quote from: r0tor on December 01, 2010, 02:54:41 PM
I do find it rather pathetic that they couldn't at least staff the show with 3 people that can actually drive a manual tranny.... yeesh Mr clutch is pathetic
I thought it was just the blind dude who had never driven a manual?
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 01, 2010, 03:18:28 PM
I thought it was just the blind dude who had never driven a manual?
Ferrara can drive stick, he's just not great at it. As evidenced by the fact that he couldn't manage a burnout in a 370Z because he slipped the clutch way too much.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 01, 2010, 03:18:28 PM
I thought it was just the blind dude who had never driven a manual?
Last week Mr clutch was cursing everytime he shifted the lambo.... this week he nearly stalled it trying to do a burnout...
He is clueless on driving a manual
Quote from: r0tor on December 01, 2010, 03:49:49 PM
Last week Mr clutch was cursing everytime he shifted the lambo.... this week he nearly stalled it trying to do a burnout...
He is clueless on driving a manual
The Lambo was a paddleshift SMG, and I think he was cursing because he was stunned by how much thrust the car generated in each successive gear.
Quote from: MX793 on December 01, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
The Lambo was a paddleshift SMG, and I think he was cursing because he was stunned by how much thrust the car generated in each successive gear.
Yeah, that's the impression I got.
The burnout thing is a good point, though the British guys have had the occasional epic fail in their competitions too.
Ferrara seems to be the James May of the US version.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 01, 2010, 04:19:18 PM
Ferrara seems to be the James May of the US version.
That was my thought too.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 01, 2010, 03:06:59 PM
They are to us. Americans hear American accents all day long, but most Americans rarely hear British accents, so they're more interesting.
How can you not hear them, they're everywhere on TV, because a Brit accent connotates knowlwdge and class, or so the marketing experts say.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on December 01, 2010, 04:38:17 PM
How can you not hear them, they're everywhere on TV, because a Brit accent connotates knowlwdge and class, or so the marketing experts say.
I mean yeah, they're around, but the amount of time I'm listening to British accents is tiny compared to the amount of time I'm listening to American accents.
Quote from: MX793 on December 01, 2010, 03:42:09 PM
Ferrara can drive stick, he's just not great at it. As evidenced by the fact that he couldn't manage a burnout in a 370Z because he slipped the clutch way too much.
If at least one of the presenters DIDN'T screw up during a competition, it wouldn't be Top Gear!
One of Foust's flaws is that he may be TOO good a driver for the show. BTW, how much you guys want to bet he also does double-duty as the Stig?
Glad to see there's a cheap car challenge next week. Those are always good for a few laughs. Probably should had done one on the first episode, just to make it more interesting.
Quote from: Madman on December 02, 2010, 06:49:19 AM
One of Foust's flaws is that he may be TOO good a driver for the show.
No way, I thoroughly enjoyed his snow and gravel driving.
I want to see a race in the snow or rally type situation between the B7 RS4 (maybe raised a little bit) against that EVO. That would be a tight race.
I don't think Foust is the Stig. He looks skinnier.
Quote from: r0tor on December 01, 2010, 03:49:49 PM
Last week Mr clutch was cursing everytime he shifted the lambo.... this week he nearly stalled it trying to do a burnout...
He is clueless on driving a manual
He was cursing because of the awesome shifting abilities of the
automatic transmission and how much speed/power the Lambo had. I found the curse at each shift rather hilarious. No better way to sum up racing through the gears of a Lambo than to scream "FUCK!" every time it shifts in .00000000001 second. ;)
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 02, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
I don't think Foust is the Stig. He looks skinnier.
The Stig is either Mario or Michael Andretti. That's my guess.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 02, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
The Stig is either Mario or Michael Andretti. That's my guess.
Mario is too bulky. Michael too arrogant. Marco would fit, but since I see him too often at home I doubt it.
If it is anyone famous, its graham rahal who has an established record doing work with auto rags
Quote from: r0tor on December 02, 2010, 01:37:09 PM
Mario is too bulky. Michael too arrogant. Marco would fit, but since I see him too often at home I doubt it.
If it is anyone famous, its graham rahal who has an established record doing work with auto rags
What about Steve Millen?
I would like to sub tommy kendal in for one of the two goof troop...
Quote from: r0tor on December 02, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
I would like to sub tommy kendal in for one of the two goof troop...
good choice.
Why does everyone want to load the cast up with professional race car drivers. It kind of makes the Stig obsolete doesn't it? The TGUK only has the Stig as far as race car drivers go. I thought one of the charms of TGUK is that they are just regular guys who get to drive kickass cars and be stupid.
Quote from: r0tor on December 02, 2010, 01:39:17 PM
I would like to sub tommy kendal in for one of the two goof troop...
I'd like to see Tim Allen in there too.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 02, 2010, 03:55:20 PM
Why does everyone want to load the cast up with professional race car drivers. It kind of makes the Stig obsolete doesn't it? The TGUK only has the Stig as far as race car drivers go. I thought one of the charms of TGUK is that they are just regular guys who get to drive kickass cars and be stupid.
Exactly.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 02, 2010, 03:55:20 PM
Why does everyone want to load the cast up with professional race car drivers. It kind of makes the Stig obsolete doesn't it? The TGUK only has the Stig as far as race car drivers go. I thought one of the charms of TGUK is that they are just regular guys who get to drive kickass cars and be stupid.
The UK guys are actually talented drivers though... neither of the goof troop could drift around a cone once for crying out loud
[Morris pet peeve]
Watching a show & being unable to hear the engine note of some fabulous car because of post production addition of really bad stock music soundtrack.
[/Morris pet peeve]
I watched an episode of Chasing Classic Cars the other day. Wanna actually hear the early-60s Merc SL or the 1930s straight-eight Auburn? Nope.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 02, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
The Stig is either Mario or Michael Andretti. That's my guess.
There's a ton of very good drivers out there who are not big names in the top tier series like F1, Indycar, Nascar, etc. it could be any one of them. It could even be one of the instructors from a school like Skip Barber for that matter. just my opinion.
Quote from: r0tor on December 03, 2010, 08:39:11 AM
The UK guys are actually talented drivers though... neither of the goof troop could drift around a cone once for crying out loud
seriously, that was really dumb. That segment should've been titled "Driving with n00bs", but at least the blind guy saved it by pulling off that e-brake parallel parking move.
Quote from: Vinsanity on December 03, 2010, 10:46:51 AM
That segment should've been titled "Driving with n00bs", but at least the blind guy saved it by pulling off that e-brake parallel parking move.
I think that was the point. To show that what Tanner can do isn't all that easy, and also to show that he so good at it that he can teach a sightless person how to do it better than his sighted co-hosts.
What we don't see in the finished product is how many takes (or chances if you like) each guy had to "get it right".
You notice when the Stig drives he isn't listening to anything? WTF?
Quote from: EtypeJohn on December 03, 2010, 11:05:29 AM
What we don't see in the finished product is how many takes (or chances if you like) each guy had to "get it right".
yeah, if I had to take a guess, what they showed in the donut competition was everyone's first tries. They probably did several takes on the e-brake parking, though, I'm sure.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 02, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
I don't think Foust is the Stig. He looks skinnier.
I'm not so sure about that. Besides, if Foust was also the Stig, it would make for one less person on the payroll and eliminate the chance of US Stig pulling a Ben Collins and exposing his identity. Just my theory, anyway.
Ok I can't hold it in much longer, I'm the Stig.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 03, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Ok I can't hold it in much longer, I'm the Stig.
When is your book coming out?
:lol:
Quote from: Madman on December 03, 2010, 10:27:28 PM
I'm not so sure about that. Besides, if Foust was also the Stig, it would make for one less person on the payroll and eliminate the chance of US Stig pulling a Ben Collins and exposing his identity. Just my theory, anyway.
I'm thinking this is plausible.
Quote from: Madman on December 03, 2010, 10:33:23 PM
When is your book coming out?
:lol:
Should be out this Summer and I'll get to host carspin tv.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on December 03, 2010, 10:27:54 AM
There's a ton of very good drivers out there who are not big names in the top tier series like F1, Indycar, Nascar, etc. it could be any one of them. It could even be one of the instructors from a school like Skip Barber for that matter. just my opinion.
Skip Barber instructors are guys who weren't good enough at racing to make a career doing it. Trust me, my uncle is a racing instructor/semi-professional racer who quit working at a Skip Barber school partially because he thought the other instructors just weren't all that good (although it was mostly because he didn't like the management).
My uncle:
http://www.porschedriving.com/Instructor-Details.aspx?id=110
And the "instructors" that work at club events (BMW club, Porsche club, etc.) and even sometimes at real driving schools are usually no more than amateur weekend racers with a real, full-time job during the week. Don't get me wrong, they're still very good drivers, would run circles around most of us, and have a lot of racing knowledge to share with untrained drivers, but it's like comparing a walk-on college football player to Matt Ryan.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 02, 2010, 03:55:20 PM
Why does everyone want to load the cast up with professional race car drivers. It kind of makes the Stig obsolete doesn't it? The TGUK only has the Stig as far as race car drivers go. I thought one of the charms of TGUK is that they are just regular guys who get to drive kickass cars and be stupid.
While I understand your point and I wouldn't want more than one professional driver, I do enjoy being able to hear feedback from a professional driver since the Stig doesn't voice his opinion too much.
Only 15 minutes into epsiode 3, but it's kicking ass so far!
Anyone catch Tanner Foust laying the smack down on Travis Pastrana in gymkhana this past weekend? 'Tis not cool to lose at your own invitational.
tonight's episode was exactly what TGUS should be: the humorous concept of the original (i.e. cheap car challenges) with an American flair (homage to moonshining and foundation of NASCAR). kinda disappointed that Rutledge destroyed his car trying the neutral drop launch, but watching him run with those moonshine bottles was kinda funny. the camping part was pretty cool too when they were spitting moonshine at the campfire; that'll probably turn out to be my favorite camping activity :lol:
looking forward to the army-car challenge next week!
The one liners during the news was pretty lame.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 05, 2010, 11:52:38 AM
While I understand your point and I wouldn't want more than one professional driver, I do enjoy being able to hear feedback from a professional driver since the Stig doesn't voice his opinion too much.
Then why do you like TGUK so much? The ONLY pro driver they have is the Stig...and he doesn't talk.
So is the 3rd episode not up on History Channel's website yet? I could only find last week's. I try to watch it on there so that they have more viewers. :lol:
I really liked the cheap cars segments. And yes to whoever already said it, but darnit Rutledge for braking your car doing a neutral drop! It can't handle that! I definitely thought the T-Bird was the best choice of them all and while I would have gone for the V8, I'm glad we got some insight into the turbo-4.
"If you need a cigarette, I've got several thousand butts in here." :lol:
The show is improving very rapidly. The third episode was pretty good. A few awkward line deliveries, but all in all the hosts seem like they're meshing more.
"You know the Stig isn't a real cop, right?"
"He's not????"
:rolleyes:
But yes, very good episode! I especially enjoyed the camping portion. Chemistry is gaining, though I suspect they filmed that episode quite some time ago...? Wasn't the off-road portion in one of the previews from months ago?
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 06, 2010, 12:25:49 AM
The one liners during the news was pretty lame.
Yes, some of the jokes seem forced. I don't think the redneck guy can deliver them well when their on stage. He's better during the challenges and stuff.
And what's with the crowds on the show? I've seen the same Asian guys and one girl every time. I don't mind the girl really.
One or two Buick jokes may be fine but you get to a point where you need to stop.
This was a really good episode. Rutledge's one liners during the challenge had me LOLing.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 06, 2010, 11:30:17 PM
This was a really good episode. Rutledge's one liners during the challenge had me LOLing.
I think my beard is falling out!
Quote from: SVT666 on December 06, 2010, 12:22:36 PM
Then why do you like TGUK so much? The ONLY pro driver they have is the Stig...and he doesn't talk.
Wow, thanks for pointing that out. I had no idea. :rolleyes:
That was my entire point. I just think it's cool to get feedback from a racer's perspective. It's one of the few things (maybe the only thing) lacking in TGUK.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 06, 2010, 06:23:47 PM
But yes, very good episode! I especially enjoyed the camping portion. Chemistry is gaining, though I suspect they filmed that episode quite some time ago...? Wasn't the off-road portion in one of the previews from months ago?
Yeah, that was included in the trailer released awhile back, but that's not that surprising. They always film the segments in the off-season for TGUK.
Quote from: Onslaught on December 06, 2010, 10:23:29 PM
And what's with the crowds on the show? I've seen the same Asian guys and one girl every time. I don't mind the girl really.
Haha... I hadn't noticed that. Are they wearing the same clothes? I wonder if they just filmed several episodes on the same day.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on December 07, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
Haha... I hadn't noticed that. Are they wearing the same clothes? I wonder if they just filmed several episodes on the same day.
Probably. I remember the audience taping took place over the span of about a week, and there were two taping sessions per day. Also, it's very possible that some people were able to book tickets to watch more than one taping session.
Quote from: Onslaught on December 06, 2010, 10:23:29 PM
Yes, some of the jokes seem forced. I don't think the redneck guy can deliver them well when their on stage. He's better during the challenges and stuff.
And what's with the crowds on the show? I've seen the same Asian guys and one girl every time. I don't mind the girl really.
They likely filmed the several episodes' worth of studio segments in a single day.
The boss 302 sounds.... ummm.... really frikkin good
Quote from: r0tor on December 07, 2010, 07:30:16 PM
The boss 302 sounds.... ummm.... really frikkin good
That is the understatement of the year.
The crowd is disgustingly, annoyingly fake in their smiling and clapping.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 08, 2010, 12:45:06 PM
The crowd is disgustingly, annoyingly fake in their smiling and clapping.
:hesaid:
I said that after the first one.
(http://www.timeoutsydney.com.au/timein/large-applause26.jpg)
I've only seen the drift and moonshine episodes but I think it's good. Especially when you don't compare it to TGUK, which has the benefit of years of experience and host interactions behind it.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 08, 2010, 12:45:06 PM
The crowd is disgustingly, annoyingly fake in their smiling and clapping.
That's true of about show shot with a live audience, including the UK version, IMHO. The audience is directed, as are the presenters or actors.
Ever notice how the UK version always seems to have the attractive gals with decent racks on the front row? I assure you that's not the luck of the draw.
Quote from: EtypeJohn on December 09, 2010, 08:55:20 AM
That's true of about show shot with a live audience, including the UK version, IMHO. The audience is directed, as are the presenters or actors.
Ever notice how the UK version always seems to have the attractive gals with decent racks on the front row? I assure you that's not the luck of the draw.
Of course, I've noticed that as well, but the American audience is way too fake. I mean, you can
kind of tell that the UK audience is being "directed" in some way, but at no point do their applause, laughter, or smiles seem non-genuine. They might know when things/jokes/transitions are coming, but they're nothing compared to the pathetically, fakely happy audience of the U.S. version.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 09, 2010, 04:48:03 PM
Of course, I've noticed that as well, but the American audience is way too fake. I mean, you can kind of tell that the UK audience is being "directed" in some way, but at no point do their applause, laughter, or smiles seem non-genuine. They might know when things/jokes/transitions are coming, but they're nothing compared to the pathetically, fakely happy audience of the U.S. version.
I think what you're referring to is the editing. They are editing out some of the questions and talking and splicing it together so it sounds totally fake....because it is.
Looks like a good show minus Kid Rock.
Sweet shots of the velociraptor. Still seems kinda cheesy, the only other episode I've seen was the first
Yeah it is a bit cheesy since these guys are trying too hard to be funny, but the segments are pretty good.
The original Mercedes SL was the fastest car in the world? Lol the SLS is such fail in comparison
They are getting critical of cars, which is refreshing to see. Hopefully that doesn't screw the advertising income...
SLS clip was great. Exactly how I feel about the car, just doesn't do it for me
LOL Stig driving a Raptor
Velociraptor on the track is awesome
The truck did pretty decent out there. I know it had 600hp but still.
Quote from: HotRodPilot on December 12, 2010, 08:37:18 PM
Velociraptor on the track is awesome
Yes it is! Faster than I thought it'd be too.
Only what about 10 seconds slower than the Evo?
The raptor segment was pure win
Looks like they are doing a British Leyland type test with GM cars, should be interesting.
Quote from: r0tor on December 12, 2010, 08:53:18 PM
The raptor segment was pure win
Yes, it was. Incorporating a PT Cruiser insult was pretty sweet too. Show's getting a lot better with each episode.
I thought it was great. Some of the stuff is still a little awkward or corny, but overall it's definitely something I'll look forward to every week.
I can't wait for next week. Except Rutledge destroys an awesome Roadmaster.
The Raptor segment was very fun to watch, but the finish looked painfully similar to Hammond's original Cayenne vs. Skydiver segment. That Raptor is a glorious machine, though...it may be a Porsche for "bros", but it makes so much more sense than a Lightning or Ram SRT-10 (if I want a fast truck, I want it to be fast off-road. Otherwise, I'll just buy a fast car)
After seeing clips fom the SLS segment used for TG-specific Mercedes commercials, I'm somewhat glad that Adam said he didn't like the car. Hopefully this tells us that the content won't be swayed by advertising dollars.
I was hoping that they would've done more with the El Camino vs. Del Sol segment. That had a lot of potential for further antics. It would've also been cool to see Tanner participate with something equally ridiculous like a Geo Tracker or something. Hopefully the "durability test" segment in the next episode will be more substantial, like the original.
Looks like Adam Carolla might do an automotive show after all
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/12/13/report-adam-carolla-dan-neil-to-host-speed-channel-pilot/
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 12, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
Only what about 10 seconds slower than the Evo?
10 seconds is a long damn time on a relatively short track like that.
I totally LOL'd when Adam started making jet noises when he played with the gear selector in the SLS. The Raptor segment was sex and the finish to the race could never have been setup. That truck is amazing. The paintball segment sucked though. At least the guest knew something about cars this week. Kid Rock's interview was actually pretty good, and he made a good point about the Big 3 needing to build a car that defines our generation that doesn't run on leaves.
Overall, this was the best episode yet and I look forward to watching it every week.
Yeah Kid Rocks music sucks but I enjoyed his interview.
Best episode so far, for sure.
I think next week could be the best of the season if the GM segment is as good as the British Leyland episode.
I went back and watched the $1,000 challenge episode and I'd say that's the best one so far
After looking at the stig again, I'd be willing to bet its Paul Tracy
Quote from: r0tor on December 14, 2010, 07:03:57 AM
After looking at the stig again, I'd be willing to bet its Paul Tracy
that would be a dumb decision to make. PT has much better camera presence than the others, and they make him some speechless, faceless character that doesn't have any of the hilarious random quirks that the original British version does?
Very true... however the stig does look a bit pudgy and has the overly aggressive driving style of PT...
PT would be pretty hilarious to watch participate in a cheap car challenge, along with Adam Carolla and Tim Allen
That Tanner guy is boring.
Driving a truck that mean and he barely even twitches at the mouth.
Strange, Tanner is the only one I like. I hate the southern guy. Hate him.
Adam is the one I have the hardest time warming up to, but I still like him. Rutledge is hilarious and Tanner can fucking drive anything fast.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 16, 2010, 11:50:27 PM
Adam is the one I have the hardest time warming up to, but I still like him. Rutledge is hilarious and Tanner can fucking drive anything fast.
I'm with you. Rutledge seems like the kind of car guy I normally hang out with, and always looks like he's stoked to be paid to have fun with cars. Tanner's got a much more subtle sense of humor. I thought he was simply too dry before, but when he talked about "hold on, we have to drive over a small car here" then had a little, "see what i mean" smirk afterward with the raised eyebrow, I really start to get his style. And he can definitely drive.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 12, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
Only what about 10 seconds slower than the Evo?
Yeah, but only a couple seconds faster than the Suzuki. But then again, it's so not supposed to be doing hat at all, considering the weight, soft suspension and tires that don't really find grip on pavement.
The show is painful to watch. I try, and I try hard to like it, because it's another car show. That won't cut it for me. Terrible.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 16, 2010, 11:50:27 PM
Adam is the one I have the hardest time warming up to, but I still like him. Rutledge is hilarious and Tanner can fucking drive anything fast.
Hilarious?....what?
Quote from: ChrisV on December 17, 2010, 05:49:14 AM
I'm with you. Rutledge seems like the kind of car guy I normally hang out with, and always looks like he's stoked to be paid to have fun with cars. Tanner's got a much more subtle sense of humor. I thought he was simply too dry before, but when he talked about "hold on, we have to drive over a small car here" then had a little, "see what i mean" smirk afterward with the raised eyebrow, I really start to get his style. And he can definitely drive.
Yeah, that was a very Clarkson-esque vibe that Tanner gave off (and a good thing). I do want to like Rutledge, but his lines seem a bit forced. He's getting a lot better with each episode, and the show is still something that I look forward to each week. The segment where they are sitting around the fire with the moonshine was simply fantastic.
Rutledge can be a bit hit or miss. There are plenty of times when his lines seem forced, but other times when they come off quite naturally. Faust seemed a little uptight at first, but seems to be loosening up with each episode. It's obvious his sense of humor is drier and a bit subtler. Ferrara seems the most natural at tossing out sarcastic remarks, but that's to be expected since he's a comedian.
On the set, Rutledge's lines seem forced, but in the segments they come off quite naturally.
I admit I want that Roadmaster.
Quote from: Middle_Path on December 18, 2010, 07:02:13 AM
The show is painful to watch. I try, and I try hard to like it, because it's another car show. That won't cut it for me. Terrible.
I thought I was the only one.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 19, 2010, 01:21:50 AM
On the set, Rutledge's lines seem forced, but in the segments they come off quite naturally.
I agree.
Ferrara is the only one that seems at all comfortable on the set.
Last weeks episode was pretty good. My dad watched it with me, and he seemed to enjoy it, despite definitely not being a car guy.
The last segment was odd though. Don't really understand why Foust wasn't involved.
It's getting better.
I think they can do without the news segment.
Poor Cutlass. Dents and Coke all over the place. :(
Oh by the way when I used to work at a parts store there was this guy that was a regular that drove a Fiero like that, he looked a little like Charles Manson :lol:
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 19, 2010, 08:39:15 PM
Poor Cutlass. Dents and Coke all over the place. :(
And eggs and filled with water! :cry:
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 19, 2010, 08:50:44 PM
And eggs and filled with water! :cry:
and now holes in the roof.
:rage:
Great episode.
The show definitely needs music. It sounds kind of unfinished without it. Other than that it's getting pretty good.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 19, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
The show definitely needs music. It sounds kind of unfinished without it. Other than that it's getting pretty good.
+ and the Stig also needs to listen to something while driving. Morris code, language cd's or something.
Great 'sode.
That actually was a pretty good episode. I didn't like the previous ones, but I enjoyed this one.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 19, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
I think they can do without the news segment.
I'd actually rather see them drop the big star, small car part and replace it with the news. Since it's only 46 minutes long vs most of the full hour the UK guys get, the shorter time would be better served with that news spot for banter and cut downs between them (the news segment with the "electric lamborghini" was better than any "big star, small car") The interviews on "big star, small car" are often as painful to watch as the UK original "star in a reasopnably priced car" segment.
Quote from: ChrisV on December 20, 2010, 03:02:03 PM
I'd actually rather see them drop the big star, small car part and replace it with the news. Since it's only 46 minutes long vs most of the full hour the UK guys get, the shorter time would be better served with that news spot for banter and cut downs between them (the news segment with the "electric lamborghini" was better than any "big star, small car") The interviews on "big star, small car" are often as painful to watch as the UK original "star in a reasopnably priced car" segment.
Good call, or at least not have a big star in a small car for every episode. It would probably be a little easier for them also. I absolutely want to see Tom Cruise on there at some point.
Yeah I think maybe have a star on every other episode. It would've been nice to be able to see the Stig to take a car out to the test track on the last episode.
Oh yeah I think next weeks Key West episode should be good even though I would think the plane will win.
Pretty solid episode.
Shame about the Roadmaster and Fiero, both looked to be pretty mint.
Even though it was a total and complete ripoff of the British Leyland episode, it was good. I like last week's episode better though since it was a little more unique.
Good thing they didn't do a Chrysler show, I think it might have made Wimmer cry.
Don't forget that the British Top Gear has the Iraq Special on tomorrow night. Should be on Streetfire.net on Wednesday.
I wished BBC American wasn't so behind.
That episode was atrocious.
I don't think I can take anymore of the fat guy just screaming the word awesome. He's got the descriptive vocabulary of 10 year old seeing tits for the first time.
Where can you see the episodes online?
history.com usually has the latest one. Other than that, you'll probably have to torrent them.
History.com or streetfire.net
Quote from: MrH on December 21, 2010, 12:00:43 AM
That episode was atrocious.
I don't think I can take anymore of the fat guy just screaming the word awesome. He's got the descriptive vocabulary of 10 year old seeing tits for the first time.
None of them are that great.
"Verb adverb noun! Noun verb, adverb predicate! Random analogy! Random metaphor!"
I swear, Seth MacFarland is a writer for this series. That said, they didn't have much narration in this episode, but it was a lot better. They also didn't have much purpose behind all of the challenges, either.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 20, 2010, 10:53:14 PM
Don't forget that the British Top Gear has the Iraq Special on tomorrow night. Should be on Streetfire.net on Wednesday.
Nah - it is broadcast this coming Sunday. Last night was the first of the new series - major feature was the drive of the SLS AMG, 458 Italia and 911 GT3 RS from the Blue Ridge Parkway to Manhattan, with some Christmas larks around some naff motoring themed presents and Danny Boyle in the reasonably priced brown Cee'd. Not a bad episode.
I thought Rutledge was funny in that episode. He got a Roadmaster wagon!
Quote from: Colin on December 21, 2010, 11:02:20 PM
Nah - it is broadcast this coming Sunday. Last night was the first of the new series - major feature was the drive of the SLS AMG, 458 Italia and 911 GT3 RS from the Blue Ridge Parkway to Manhattan, with some Christmas larks around some naff motoring themed presents and Danny Boyle in the reasonably priced brown Cee'd. Not a bad episode.
That was a great episode.
Quote from: The Pirate on December 18, 2010, 07:35:21 PM
Yeah, that was a very Clarkson-esque vibe that Tanner gave off (and a good thing). I do want to like Rutledge, but his lines seem a bit forced. He's getting a lot better with each episode, and the show is still something that I look forward to each week. The segment where they are sitting around the fire with the moonshine was simply fantastic.
I also laughed at Rutledge running around with bottles of moonshine, as well as Ferrara beating the hell out of his Coupe de Ville
Quote from: SVT666 on December 22, 2010, 01:19:24 AM
That was a great episode.
I agree. Though it made the US version look worse, as it shows what an incredibly "finished" show the UK version is and how far the US version has to go.
The US hosts were on the Tonight Show last week. Rutledge had some pretty funny jokes. http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/top-gear-hosts/1265642/
I like the US version for what it is. I hope that it continues for a while and doesn't succumb to the constant comparisons to TGUK that will probably bring it down.
Quote from: MaxPower on December 24, 2010, 01:22:29 PM
The US hosts were on the Tonight Show last week. Rutledge had some pretty funny jokes. http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/top-gear-hosts/1265642/
Who's the random dude on the end? :huh:
QuoteI like the US version for what it is. I hope that it continues for a while and doesn't succumb to the constant comparisons to TGUK that will probably bring it down.
:hesaid:
I was just thinking that with the ads the show seems rushed a bit. How would you guys feel about a top gear like show to air on HBO or Showtime?
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 24, 2010, 04:44:22 PM
I was just thinking that with the ads the show seems rushed a bit. How would you guys feel about a top gear like show to air on HBO or Showtime?
It would be a much better show.
But it would have a much smaller audience.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 24, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
Who's the random dude on the end? :huh:
That's the guy from Forgetting Sarah Marshall, the ex-boyfriend--he was naked in it, hence the Rutledge joke about having clothes on. I don't know what his name is.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 24, 2010, 05:38:47 PM
But it would have a much smaller audience.
But it wouldn't be in any sort of imminent danger of having its plug pulled early on, either.
Look at Californication. It's only gotten more popular the longer it's been on.
Quote from: the Teuton on December 24, 2010, 07:05:05 PM
But it wouldn't be in any sort of imminent danger of having its plug pulled early on, either.
Look at Californication. It's only gotten more popular the longer it's been on.
Yeah it's rare that a show on those networks gets the plug pulled early.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 24, 2010, 08:27:34 PM
Yeah it's rare that a show on those networks gets the plug pulled early.
The hosts on History also seem too reserved to give their negative thoughts towards cars. Even the SLS review was half-hearted.
Kid Rock said he hated the Suzuki. No one else has come up with such an honest opinion on that show.
Also, personal nitpick: They explain the wrong things. Why explain about slow parts of race tracks, yet when their explanation behind the contest rules on the American cars resurrection episode were glossed over at best, as well as the new Roadmaster. Who designed it? Why that design exactly? Why didn't they explain what was going on at the beginning of the show with it?
I can tell you why they were reserved, Mercedes helps pay the bills. Kinda like when Jalopnik had Toyota ads plastered everywhere you didn't see anything negative posted on the site until the ads were taken down.
On tonight:
QuoteTanner goes to England to try out a sports car made from wood--with surprising results, and the three of them race against each other from Miami to Key West in car, boat and plane. Michelle Rodriguez gets on the Top Gear test track.
yes!
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 25, 2010, 10:51:07 PM
I can tell you why they were reserved, Mercedes helps pay the bills. Kinda like when Jalopnik had Toyota ads plastered everywhere you didn't see anything negative posted on the site until the ads were taken down.
I thought that was beyond disingenuous.
Three sports cars, bought in Georgia, air-freighted into Iraq, a trip across the Syrian desert, some breathtaking scenery, and the final arrival in Bethlehem......... it can only be the Top Gear Christmas special......... definitely worth watching! It's just finished airing here in the UK.
Enjoy!
And yes, all praise to the Fiat Barchetta!
Quote from: Colin on December 26, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
Three sports cars, bought in Georgia, air-freighted into Iraq, a trip across the Syrian desert, some breathtaking scenery, and the final arrival in Bethlehem......... it can only be the Top Gear Christmas special......... definitely worth watching! It's just finished airing here in the UK.
Enjoy!
And yes, all praise to the Fiat Barchetta!
Been downloading it. Can't wait to watch.
Quote from: 68_427 on December 26, 2010, 04:42:31 PM
Been downloading it. Can't wait to watch.
Same here. It's gonna take awhile though. Lots of people downloading, not as many uploading... My share ratio is way over 1 and I've only downloaded 13%.
Vuze estimates just under an hour left for me. 72% right now
As I posted that the DL speed went to almost .5mb/s
Quote from: 68_427 on December 26, 2010, 05:17:58 PM
As I posted that the DL speed went to almost .5mb/s
VTAK
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f224/clay92/fastspeed.jpg)
Watching the original right before watching the American version is not a good idea. :lol:
I already saw the US version and about to watch the UK version.
This is painful. I'm downloading it off Finalgear.com right now and I'ma averaging about 30 kB/s.
I was expecting an epic journey across the middle east...but what we got was very underwhelming. Almost boring. I wouldn't even waste my time watching it if I were any of you who haven't seen it yet.
North Pole = Epic
Vietnam = Epic
Bolivia = Epic
Botswana = Epic
USA 1 = Nearly Epic
USA 2 = Nearly Nearly Epic
Iraq = Epic Fail
Yeah I admit this one was a little bit of a let down.
Quote from: the Teuton on December 25, 2010, 10:37:32 PM
The hosts on History also seem too reserved to give their negative thoughts towards cars. Even the SLS review was half-hearted.
No other American car show ever says anything even SLIGHTLY bad about the cars they review. Ever watch Motorweek, or the half hour infomertials masquerading as car and truck shows on Speed? Fact is, Tanner had said earlier in the year that they were told they didn't have to pull any punches with the cars if they felt like it.
Quote from: ChrisV on December 27, 2010, 09:40:58 AM
No other American car show ever says anything even SLIGHTLY bad about the cars they review. Ever watch Motorweek, or the half hour infomertials masquerading as car and truck shows on Speed? Fact is, Tanner had said earlier in the year that they were told they didn't have to pull any punches with the cars if they felt like it.
Correct. And it's not like Tanner was lavishing praise all over the Morgan in yesterday's episode.
If people are looking for "OMG, I can't believe I have to drive this piece of shit, let's drop an anvil on it" type criticism, I don't think they're going to find it. There are better ways to get your point across.
Well the US hosts don't have many ways of getting their point across. Their vocab is very limited. It's not something that will make me stop watching, but I do notice it. Of course maybe it's just that the British hosts simply have a different vocabulary because they live in a different country, and the British audience thinks their vocab is limited too.
I'm watching the GM episode now. I'd choose the Corvair.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 27, 2010, 10:08:32 AM
Well the US hosts don't have many ways of getting their point across. Their vocab is very limited. It's not something that will make me stop watching, but I do notice it. Of course maybe it's just that the British hosts simply have a different vocabulary because they live in a different country, and the British audience thinks their vocab is limited too.
You think this because you never hear the words the British hosts use because they are from another country. If you haven't noticed the British hosts use the same vocab in every episode. (i)Brilliant(/i) being the most common word they use.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 27, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
You think this because you never hear the words the British hosts use because they are from another country. If you haven't noticed the British hosts use the same vocab in every episode. (i)Brilliant(/i) being the most common word they use.
I disagree. Yes, they use a British vocab, but it's more poetic, more fluid.
Listen to the American hosts and every other sentence is a simile--which the Brits do, too, but they don't make a habit of it in the same obsessive way. The Brit hosts can get away with it because they're smooth enough to make it work. The American hosts all seem bogged down by their lack of knowledge of the English language.
Also, come on, they survived going into Iraq...and the end...I thought this episode was a perfect example of why the American series will never be as good as the British one. You think they could do the same thing?
Do they flog the words awesome and awesomeness to death?
Need to get a youtube video montage of Rutledge awesomes
Why does Rutledge do the interviews? He has less charisma than the Stig. Ferrara should do the interviews. Or have a random audience member do it. Rutledge sucks at them.
Quote from: the Teuton on December 27, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
I disagree. Yes, they use a British vocab, but it's more poetic, more fluid.
I agree with that.
QuoteListen to the American hosts and every other sentence is a simile--which the Brits do, too, but they don't make a habit of it in the same obsessive way. The Brit hosts can get away with it because they're smooth enough to make it work. The American hosts all seem bogged down by their lack of knowledge of the English language.
I disagree with that. The Brit hosts use the same terms to describe cars in every episode. They are just better speakers. Their use of vocabulary is just as limited. They just don't use "awesome", which is more of an American term anyway. I bet the Brits think the same thing of the Brit hosts. Can't they use another term other than "Brilliant" or "Cock" or "Garbage".....
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Also, come on, they survived going into Iraq...and the end...I thought this episode was a perfect example of why the American series will never be as good as the British one. You think they could do the same thing?
Go watch that Iraq episode and then watch Bolivia, Botswana, Vietnam, or North Pole and try and tell me that it was anywhere near in the same league as those episodes.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 27, 2010, 01:51:48 PM
Can't they use another term other than "Brilliant" or "Cock" or "Garbage".....
Rubbish. They use it a lot.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 27, 2010, 10:44:03 AM
You think this because you never hear the words the British hosts use because they are from another country. If you haven't noticed the British hosts use the same vocab in every episode. (i)Brilliant(/i) being the most common word they use.
That's what I was saying. But I agree with Teuton, it still flows better and doesn't sound as simple. And the Americans definitely use similes too much.
Let's compare the hosts:
Rutledge Wood: He's a car guy. His big break came in hosting NASCAR programs on SPEED, but he likes cars of all sorts. He likes NASCAR, though, which is unfortunate.
Adam Ferrara: His big break came through comedy.
Tanner Foust: Stunt driver, drifter, race car driver. Probably should've been The Stig if he isn't already.
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Jeremy Clarkson: Began his career as a journalist and TV personality. Got his big break after the Beeb picked him up in 1988 after doing four years of freelance car writing.
James May: Got his degree in music. Found his big break after writing for Autocar in the 1980s and creating one of its most controversial layouts as a design editor. He was fired in 1992.
Richard Hammond: He worked as a radio DJ and host in the late-1980s. Top Gear was his big break other than working in radio.
Each of them also do a ton of work outside of cars in their respective roles.
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So what we have in the first group are a guy who likes cars, a guy who drives cars and a comedian. In the second group, we have three storytellers.
Ummmm. Comedians and TV hosts are storytellers too man. I see what you mean, but have you even watched the first few seasons of Top Gear? Almost unwatchable.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 27, 2010, 06:16:17 PM
Ummmm. Comedians and TV hosts are storytellers too man. I see what you mean, but have you even watched the first few seasons of Top Gear? Almost unwatchable.
I blame it on the fat guy.
James May is the glue that holds them together. If Top Gear were a band, James May plays bass. He's essential and largely unsung. Clarkson plays the drums and Hammond is lead guitar.
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James May is the glue that holds them together. If Top Gear were a band, James May plays bass. He's essential and largely unsung. Clarkson plays the drums and Hammond is lead guitar.
I think I would swap roles there with Clarkson and Hammond.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 27, 2010, 08:46:58 PM
I think I would swap roles there with Clarkson and Hammond.
No way. Playing a guitar takes precision. Drumming is basically hitting things with a hammer, which is Clarkson's specialty.
I say that because besides the lead singer the guitarist is typically the most popular person in a band. That is Clarkson and I don't think I could picture this show without him. Even the specials he does on his own are better than a lot of automotive shows.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 27, 2010, 09:30:44 PM
I say that because besides the lead singer the guitarist is typically the most popular person in a band. That is Clarkson and I don't think I could picture this show without him. Even the specials he does on his own are better than a lot of automotive shows.
I'm going by instruments. Clarkson on guitar would be a mess.
If I'm not mistaken Clarkson actually plays the drums.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on December 27, 2010, 09:48:02 PM
If I'm not mistaken Clarkson actually plays the drums.
Actually yeah, he does love his drum kit. I totally forgot about that.
All of them in a band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySJ8CZmq2V8
I can't find the newest episode of TGUS. Finalgear.com doesn't have it, History.com doesn't have it, and Streetfire.net doesn't have it.
Don't know where else to say this...
They changed the song of the penalty bike in the Vietnam special for the DVD release of Top Gear. In the original airing, it's Born in the USA. On the DVD, it's the Star Spangled Banner. And then May references Springsteen later and it makes it look like he thinks that Bruce Springsteen wrote the national anthem.
Quote from: Raza on December 28, 2010, 08:16:19 AM
Don't know where else to say this...
They changed the song of the penalty bike in the Vietnam special for the DVD release of Top Gear. In the original airing, it's Born in the USA. On the DVD, it's the Star Spangled Banner. And then May references Springsteen later and it makes it look like he thinks that Bruce Springsteen wrote the national anthem.
Seems someone didn't want to pay residuals :lol:
Quote from: SVT666 on December 27, 2010, 11:53:09 PM
I can't find the newest episode of TGUS. Finalgear.com doesn't have it, History.com doesn't have it, and Streetfire.net doesn't have it.
http://www.history.com/shows/top-gear/videos/top-gear-fast-in-florida#top-gear-fast-in-florida
I rather liked the new US episode, but I still liked the Brit special more. This was their best episode so far.
My biggest qualms: Not developing the Stig character more and not having enough time. 45 minutes isn't enough.
Tanner would have easily won if he hadn't of taken that little detour to find the others. But I see why he did, as it provided a good photo op.
And my dad completely called Ferrara getting pulled over. He's been down there enough to know you'll get caught every time, especially in a bright yellow sports car.
I thought the episode was pretty "meh." The epic races they do just don't seem so epic yet. They definitely need some better music. TGUK takes the majority of their epic music from movie soundtracks, which I love because the music is always fantastic and I love being able to recognize it and think, "damn! good song choice, sound editors!" All the TGUS music seems cheesy and home-made on a MIDI keyboard.
I'm interested in seeing Tim Allen in the next episode.
Quote from: giant_mtb on December 29, 2010, 09:34:32 AM
I thought the episode was pretty "meh." The epic races they do just don't seem so epic yet. They definitely need some better music. TGUK takes the majority of their epic music from movie soundtracks, which I love because the music is always fantastic and I love being able to recognize it and think, "damn! good song choice, sound editors!" All the TGUS music seems cheesy and home-made on a MIDI keyboard.
+1. Why mention Miami Vice, but not take the opportunity to use Phil Collins' "In the Air Tonight" with some more dramatic video editing?
Watching the real TG special. First things first, my pants would have been quite brown after the landing. Second, the airport bit has been stupid so far. It's obviously a US military base, what the hell do they think is going to happen?
They still drove around in Iraq -- something most of us couldn't even fathom doing, even in a "peaceful" zone. I bet most of TG's viewers didn't even know there was a peaceful zone in Iraq.
TGUK sure does love the "Stardust" soundtrack.
Quote from: TBR on December 29, 2010, 12:43:19 PM
Watching the real TG special. First things first, my pants would have been quite brown after the landing. Second, the airport bit has been stupid so far. It's obviously a US military base, what the hell do they think is going to happen?
At first I thought they were going to drop the cars out of the plane with a parachute. Then I wondered if they were going to have to drive them off the plane while it was still on the runway. Would have made it more interesting. :lol:
And I think it was a little stupid on purpose, playing on the notion that there is nothing in Iraq but gunfire and roadside bombs.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 29, 2010, 09:30:26 AM
Tanner would have easily won if he hadn't of taken that little detour to find the others.
Or if he had allowed the scooter to fall while dismounting.
Quote from: L. ed foote on December 29, 2010, 04:06:13 PM
Or if he had allowed the scooter to fall while dismounting.
Or would have just ran into the thing with the scooter.
The race seemed phony to me.
Quote from: L. ed foote on December 29, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
The race seemed phony to me.
I agree. It just had this phony feel to it for me.
I just saw the UK Top Gears boxing day show. I was ok but not as good as some of their other work. I was surprised that James and all the camera men didn't see what was coming with that accident. I was saying "he better fucking move" before he hit the ground.
I wanted to see more of the exchange between the cop and Adam. Otherwise, it was a good episode.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 31, 2010, 01:25:34 AM
I wanted to see more of the exchange between the cop and Adam. Otherwise, it was a good episode.
Why? The cop knew they were filming and told them not to speed. I'm pretty sure he just got a warning.
Quote from: L. ed foote on December 29, 2010, 09:30:27 PM
The race seemed phony to me.
They all are.
Quote from: hotrodalex on December 31, 2010, 09:55:40 AM
Why? The cop knew they were filming and told them not to speed. I'm pretty sure he just got a warning.
Cause he seemed pretty upset. I thought it might be fun to watch him get angry with Adam.
Am I the only one who thinks Adam is the least funny of the three? He may be a professional comedian, but he doesn't seem like he's going out of his way to ham it up.
Quote from: the Teuton on December 31, 2010, 10:13:52 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Adam is the least funny of the three? He may be a professional comedian, but he doesn't seem like he's going out of his way to ham it up.
He's only as funny as the material he's provided. Not sure how much ad libbing they are allowed to do. Personally, I think his lines sound the least forced of the trio.
Quote from: MX793 on December 31, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
He's only as funny as the material he's provided. Not sure how much ad libbing they are allowed to do. Personally, I think his lines sound the least forced of the trio.
Agreed.
TBH, I think Tanner is probably the funniest, if only because when he decides to show that he has some personality, Mr. T-1000 himself comes across as unexpected and unforced.
It's not often, but I think Rutledge tries too hard and Adam doesn't try hard enough.
Quote from: the Teuton on December 31, 2010, 10:53:58 AM
Agreed.
TBH, I think Tanner is probably the funniest, if only because when he decides to show that he has some personality, Mr. T-1000 himself comes across as unexpected and unforced.
It's not often, but I think Rutledge tries too hard and Adam doesn't try hard enough.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4108742766_be8fdd48d6.jpg)
Tanner Foust drives Pontiac's clone of the Chevy Chevette?
:lol:
Quote from: the Teuton on December 31, 2010, 10:13:52 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Adam is the least funny of the three? He may be a professional comedian, but he doesn't seem like he's going out of his way to ham it up.
Here's Rutledge, turning up the charm:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OqRt93Jia-E/TJiYxLfXqUI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/76vOlc6c1gs/s320/Plank+of+wood.jpg)
I really have to wonder how much of TG (both UK and USA) is scripted. Several of Rutledge's failed jokes would have been great had Clarkson delivered the punchline. There was one joke (one of the similes) during the CR-Z segment from last night's episode that was particularly Clarkson-esque, but I accidentally deleted the episode, so I can't remember exactly what it was.
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Here's Rutledge, turning up the charm:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OqRt93Jia-E/TJiYxLfXqUI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/76vOlc6c1gs/s320/Plank+of+wood.jpg)
They all seem a bit wooden, but it's getting a bit better, IMHO. I was thinking about this last night while watching the latest episode and came to the conclusion that the producers should have bought a 60's station wagon in somewhat poor repair and told those three to pack their bags and tools for a couple of weeks journey and sent them from the West coast to East. Maybe a couple of weeks living together in a car might have created some chemistry that would show on screen.
I enjoyed a couple of Rutledge's lines this week. Had me LOLing at the "you'll die" part. Overall pretty good.
Quote from: hotrodalex on January 03, 2011, 04:26:28 PM
I enjoyed a couple of Rutledge's lines this week. Had me LOLing at the "you'll die" part. Overall pretty good.
Ah, yes. That's the line I was talking about here:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 03, 2011, 02:19:04 PM
I really have to wonder how much of TG (both UK and USA) is scripted. Several of Rutledge's failed jokes would have been great had Clarkson delivered the punchline. There was one joke (one of the similes) during the CR-Z segment from last night's episode that was particularly Clarkson-esque, but I accidentally deleted the episode, so I can't remember exactly what it was.
I do think Clarkson would have delivered it better, but Rutledge still did a pretty good job.
I also thought that Tanner's quip about the Dodge Caliber was amusing :lol:
Quote from: Vinsanity on January 04, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
I also thought that Tanner's quip about the Dodge Caliber was amusing :lol:
Amusing? I was downright LMAO. When I tried to explain to my wife why it was so funny, she stopped listening.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 04, 2011, 11:42:57 AM
Amusing? I was downright LMAO. When I tried to explain to my wife why it was so funny, she stopped listening.
well it was probably one of the funniest things said on the series so far
Quote from: Vinsanity on January 04, 2011, 10:58:48 AM
I also thought that Tanner's quip about the Dodge Caliber was amusing :lol:
Yes, that too. :lol:
OMFG DAT MUFFIN TOP
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 03, 2011, 02:19:04 PM
I really have to wonder how much of TG (both UK and USA) is scripted.
Um, all of it. Unless you really believe that camera crews are randomly able to cath pianos falling on Morris Marinas in perfect frame... ;) And are always around to artfully film the outside of cars that are supposedly lost.
The difference is that Clarkson gets to write his own material, whereas none of the US three are allowed to do that yet other than some of the banter on the challenges. Supposedly that's going to change a bit for Season 2.
The guys over at Miata.net are mad that Wood's called the Miata "girly." You'd think most of them would be accustomed to it.
Next episode looks awesome.
When the hell is Top Gear UK going to have another episode?
Quote from: SVT666 on January 12, 2011, 01:34:03 PM
When the hell is Top Gear UK going to have another episode?
The 23rd
Quote from: ChrisV on January 10, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
Um, all of it. Unless you really believe that camera crews are randomly able to cath pianos falling on Morris Marinas in perfect frame... ;) And are always around to artfully film the outside of cars that are supposedly lost.
The difference is that Clarkson gets to write his own material, whereas none of the US three are allowed to do that yet other than some of the banter on the challenges. Supposedly that's going to change a bit for Season 2.
I think he's talking more about the conversations and presentations being scripted, not the videography and events. The in-studio conversations (like "the news") in TGUK do not really seem scripted. Sure, they probably have a guide-/time-line they're following, but it still feels like genuine conversation (and genuine jokes) most of the time. TGUS on the other hand, feels like watching a terribly-acted comedy or sitcom.
Oh, and I'm watching this past Sunday's episode and really, really, really wish Rutledge would stop saying "fail" where he should be saying "failure." Ugh.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 12, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
The in-studio conversations (like "the news") in TGUK do not really seem scripted. Su
Not anymore. The last few years have felt scripted. Not that it's a bad thing.
Quote from: Onslaught on January 12, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
Not anymore. The last few years have felt scripted. Not that it's a bad thing.
Hmm, perhaps. I've been watching the seasons backwards and am currently on season 8, so perhaps my perspective is off since I haven't seen an episode from season 15 (?) in a while. :lol:
It could just be me. But it's felt a little "off" the last few years. As if it was all practiced during the news and other stuff.
But as long as it's funny then I don't care.
:huh: Who knows.
Just finished up the TGUS episode. It was actually pretty good and entertaining. The in-studio dialogue is still pretty "meh," but on-site activities were really enjoyable to watch.
Quote from: Onslaught on January 10, 2011, 09:02:31 AM
The guys over at Miata.net are mad that Wood's called the Miata "girly." You'd think most of them would be accustomed to it.
Good! That just means more Miatas for the true believers.
This show is awful. Somebody shoot the fat guy.
The CR-Z/used car episode was better than the UK Christmas special. Fact. Unfortunately.
It was really good.
lol, my two cousins both got their first cars at dealers like that one along the "boulevard of cars" in Glendale.
I always found it pretty neat that some streets would have most of the car dealers on it. In Tupelo you can find all but 2 new car dealers located on Gloster Street. Most of them were located on the south end but when a new mall was built on the north side of town in the early 90s most businesses moved along with it.
Tonight's show was pretty good. I always like an off road adventure.
I missed it. Thank god for lookback.
It's getting better, and I actually like Ruteligde.
Tanner Faust is boring.
This episode was pretty cool.
Best show so far. It felt like the guys had a better dialog with each other then in other shows. I still don't like the redneck all that much.
Rutledge Wood again had the coolest vehicle. I was a bit sad to see it go. What was Ferrera thinking buying that old Ford POS? He definitely could have done better, but it was nice to see something from that era.
I don't know how the Ram didn't win.
But now I want a lifted Jeep very badly. Either a Wrangler (preferably 4 door) or an old Cherokee.
That looked fun as hell to be hooning those trucks around.
Quote from: hotrodalex on January 17, 2011, 05:32:43 PM
I don't know how the Ram didn't win.
But now I want a lifted Jeep very badly. Either a Wrangler (preferably 4 door) or an old Cherokee.
Jeep :lol:
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on January 17, 2011, 05:30:30 PM
Rutledge Wood again had the coolest vehicle. I was a bit sad to see it go. What was Ferrera thinking buying that old Ford POS? He definitely could have done better, but it was nice to see something from that era.
Ferrera shouldn't have got a ton truck. A 4wd ton truck is alright on the farm or the construction site but they are just too big and heavy for trail riding.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qB4tLWy1v5A/TJF1h44MktI/AAAAAAAABf0/wX6KMcsf-XU/s1600/deuce-722753.jpg)
I'm not talking about military trucks dude.
Too bad Rutledge didn't check his oil before they started the journey cause that was a nice truck.
Tanner is a lot funnier than people think. "It's really unfortunate that had to happen...but that's wheelin' my friend" - after he ran over Rutledge's cabin.
Why the hell isn't the latest episode up on History.com yet? I work every Sunday night 8-11PM now, so I can't watch it on TV no mo'.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 18, 2011, 01:04:45 PM
Why the hell isn't the latest episode up on History.com yet? I work every Sunday night 8-11PM now, so I can't watch it on TV no mo'.
They post it after the repeat episode tomorrow night. Go to streetfire.net and do a search for Top Gear. It's the first one that comes up.
Perfect. Thank you.
Well, just finished the Alaska episode. Pretty good, I'd say. Entertaining, good flow, and an unrealistic conclusion that only Top Gear can provide.
Good episode.
This episode is hilarious
Too bad they didn't buy Jeeps.
I just want to mention that I finally got to see the UK GT3/458/SLS episode. Fucking hilarious.
It restores the faith.
Quote from: giant_mtb on January 12, 2011, 03:33:50 PM
Oh, and I'm watching this past Sunday's episode and really, really, really wish Rutledge would stop saying "fail" where he should be saying "failure." Ugh.
They say "epic" way too often as well.
Quote from: 68_427 on January 18, 2011, 07:46:34 PM
Too bad they didn't buy Jeeps.
I was thinking about how awesome it would be if one of them had gotten one of these:
(http://www.harrysituations.com/projects/comanche.jpg)
Quote from: 2o6 on January 17, 2011, 11:17:25 AM
It's getting better, and I actually like Ruteligde.
Tanner Faust is boring.
Tanner is by far the best of the three. He's the most natural on screen and he seems like the only one that actually knows anything about cars. Rutledge can be entertaining when they find him in a situation where he's forgotten about the cameras, but everything else is just forced. I feel like Ferrara is just kind of there. He hasn't really done anything memorable other than fuck up a burnout and bend an old Caddy.
Also, Rutledge may have grown up in the south, but rednecks have southern accents. He does not. So everyone needs to stop calling him a redneck.
Complaints aside though, it's still a fun show to watch and all three of the presenters have gotten better throughout the season. Nothing they've done has even been close to bad enough that I would stop watching the show.
No one on air from the South sounds like a redneck. Broadcast journalism students from the South very often go up to the Midwest to study because we have a very beige accent, that is, we don't have an accent.
Likely, if he ever wanted a shot of being on air, his only option was to lose the twang.
Quote from: the Teuton on January 21, 2011, 01:40:12 AM
No one on air from the South sounds like a redneck. Broadcast journalism students from the South very often go up to the Midwest to study because we have a very beige accent, that is, we don't have an accent.
Likely, if he ever wanted a shot of being on air, his only option was to lose the twang.
I understand that, but I really don't a redneck vibe from him. It seems like he's actively trying to convince us that he's a redneck rather than just being a redneck.
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 21, 2011, 01:47:59 AM
I understand that, but I really don't a redneck vibe from him. It seems like he's actively trying to convince us that he's a redneck rather than just being a redneck.
Sort of like how Ferrara tries to convince us that he's a comedian except that he's completely unfunny. Or how Foust tries to convince us that he's really a...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnhB0aoSUb0
...oh dear, he is a really good driver...:lol:
Quote from: BimmerM3 on January 21, 2011, 01:36:56 AM
I was thinking about how awesome it would be if one of them had gotten one of these:
(http://www.harrysituations.com/projects/comanche.jpg)
I have one of these, or should say I have access to one on my property anytime I want it. It's not all that and I don't think it make the trip on the show. I will run forever I'll give it that.
James May has weighed in on the US version of Top Gear......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/jamesmay/8264356/Top-Gear-US-why-I-hate-the-presenters-already.html
Just reached the end of the first program of the new UK series of Top Gear.
All hail to the omnipotent Skoda Yeti!!
Quote from: Madman on January 21, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
James May has weighed in on the US version of Top Gear......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/jamesmay/8264356/Top-Gear-US-why-I-hate-the-presenters-already.html
:clap:
Oh, and the Ariel Atom V8............ just a bit quick!!
I'm trying to start the torrent but the websites aren't loading. Either that or the links on final gear are broken.
Maybe Streetfire will have them up by time all the football games end.
Well I got it an finished it a couple hours ago. It was ok. I wish we got cars like the Yeti over here.
I admit the Yeti is a neat little car.
Somebody shoot the fat man already!
I watched the Panamera, Ferrari California, X6 ///M one. Best episode so far, but still pretty awful.
UK Top Gear is great when they do those kinds of challenges, because it forces one of them to spend some serious time with the car, and they get to talk about it in depth. For this US Top Gear bull shit, they just race a plane against a car over and over, with way too many camera shifts and hype about how close it's going to be. It's boring.
Quote from: MrH on January 23, 2011, 10:15:47 PM
Somebody shoot the fat man already!
I watched the Panamera, Ferrari California, X6 ///M one. Best episode so far, but still pretty awful.
UK Top Gear is great when they do those kinds of challenges, because it forces one of them to spend some serious time with the car, and they get to talk about it in depth. For this US Top Gear bull shit, they just race a plane against a car over and over, with way too many camera shifts and hype about how close it's going to be. It's boring.
Jesus. I swear, the only reason you don't bitch about the exact same stuff on TG UK is becasue they do it with a British accent. Seriously. Every complaint you've ever made can be leveled at the UK version.
decided to change the name of the thread to include all things Top Gear.
Quote from: ChrisV on January 24, 2011, 01:09:11 PM
Jesus. I swear, the only reason you don't bitch about the exact same stuff on TG UK is becasue they do it with a British accent. Seriously. Every complaint you've ever made can be leveled at the UK version.
Did you read my post at all? They didn't talk about the Ferrari California at all. They just kept cutting back and forth between the little guy and the fat guy, and they both just kept saying how close it'd be. That's all they talked about.
Quote from: MrH on January 24, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
Did you read my post at all? They didn't talk about the Ferrari California at all. They just kept cutting back and forth between the little guy and the fat guy, and they both just kept saying how close it'd be. That's all they talked about.
Huh. The episode I watched, Tanner talked quite a bit about the Ferrari. I specifically remember him talking about the transmission and how quick the shifts were. I also remember him talking about the power among other things.
It shifts quick. How insightful.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on January 24, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
decided to change the name of the thread to include all things Top Gear.
http://www.carspin.net/forums/index.php?topic=11432.0
I'm taking over now :heated:
Merge threads?
Quote from: MrH on January 24, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
It shifts quick. How insightful.
I think you are missing the point of the show. It's entertainment for the audience, not a sterile by the numbers road test of vehicles. Most of the viewers will never own a Ferrari, ride in one or even see on more than a few times in their lives. They are living the moment vicariously in front of their TV screen. You think they really care about the technicalities of the car? No. They want to be wowed with well edited, flashy cinematography, some interesting characters and a bit of drama. In this respect Top gear, both the UK and US versions delivers quite well.
It's forced drama. I felt zero excitement. I don't want a bunch of number vomit on the specifications of the car. Tell me how it feels to drive. Describe the personality of the car. What makes it great, what makes it not. Tell me something I don't know from reading the specifications on the car.
TG US is a whole lot farther along than TG UK was at the same point.
Watch the first two or three seasons from when Top Gear UK was brought back and started out. It's pretty painful.
TG US is a WHOLE lot farther, and you can tell that the hosts are starting to "click" with one another.
Quote from: MrH on January 25, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
It's forced drama. I felt zero excitement. I don't want a bunch of number vomit on the specifications of the car. Tell me how it feels to drive. Describe the personality of the car. What makes it great, what makes it not. Tell me something I don't know from reading the specifications on the car.
What you want is like reading Playboy and expecting to see a technical discourse on female anatomy as the centerfold. Again, I submit that in depth technical discsussions of driving dynamics is not the primary goal of Top Gear. Sounds like top gear isn't your cup of tea. :huh:
The UK version isn't perfect, but it's much more entertaining, creative, and technical.
I can only take the words, "awesome!" and "fail" so many times before I just turn it off.
Quote from: MrH on January 26, 2011, 04:38:38 PM
The UK version isn't perfect, but it's much more entertaining, creative, and technical.
I can only take the words, "awesome!" and "fail" so many times before I just turn it off.
The British version uses "Brilliant" and "Rubbish" incessantly. The only reason you don't care is because they have accents when they say it. I'm sure the Brits who watch the show must think, "Can't they stop saying those words?" Those are as common over there as "Awesome" and "Fail" are here.
Almost everything people have complained about with regards to the American version can be applied to the British version as well. The overuse of similes and metaphors applies to both shows, the overuse of two particular adjectives applies to both shows, and being over scripted applies to both shows. The only thing that applies just to the American show that I've seen so far is the chemistry...but the first few seasons of Top Gear UK were terrible. There was no chemistry at all. The US show is already further ahead than they were in that regard.
1) I finally got done with the latest UK episode. I liked it. They need more reviews like the Yeti's. It was entertaining. And I'm liking the Tiff Needle cameos. It was a solid episode, and more than anything, it was original.
2) I'm hearing good things about the pilot episode of Adam Carolla's "The Car Show." Thoughts?
Quote from: the Teuton on January 26, 2011, 11:20:03 PM
1) I finally got done with the latest UK episode. I liked it. They need more reviews like the Yeti's. It was entertaining. And I'm liking the Tiff Needle cameos. It was a solid episode, and more than anything, it was original.
2) I'm hearing good things about the pilot episode of Adam Carolla's "The Car Show." Thoughts?
Most. Irritating. Voice. Ever.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 26, 2011, 11:25:07 PM
Most. Irritating. Voice. Ever.
Take your pick: Needle or Carolla? :lol: Or both?
Does anyone have the USA road trip the UK version did in December? I started downloading it on Sunday and it got about 10% of the way through, but hasn't budged since. Anyone want to burn it to a DVD and send it to me, or find some awesome internet way of sending 700 MB?
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on January 26, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
Does anyone have the USA road trip the UK version did in December? I started downloading it on Sunday and it got about 10% of the way through, but hasn't budged since. Anyone want to burn it to a DVD and send it to me, or find some awesome internet way of sending 700 MB?
I have it. I am technologically impaired.
I could upload it to my MobileMe account for you to download it from.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 26, 2011, 11:10:29 PM
The British version uses "Brilliant" and "Rubbish" incessantly. The only reason you don't care is because they have accents when they say it. I'm sure the Brits who watch the show must think, "Can't they stop saying those words?" Those are as common over there as "Awesome" and "Fail" are here.
Almost everything people have complained about with regards to the American version can be applied to the British version as well. The overuse of similes and metaphors applies to both shows, the overuse of two particular adjectives applies to both shows, and being over scripted applies to both shows. The only thing that applies just to the American show that I've seen so far is the chemistry...but the first few seasons of Top Gear UK were terrible. There was no chemistry at all. The US show is already further ahead than they were in that regard.
One other difference, a pet peeve of mine, none of the US presenters takes sarcastic cheap shots at the British. Clarkson, and sometime Hammond, on the other hand never miss an opportinity to rag on the US, it's people and cars. Even in jest it gets tiresome.
I'm way behind on the new Top Gear.
My complaint about the US Top Gear is that they're wooden and feel scripted.
Quote from: Raza on January 27, 2011, 07:23:14 AM
I'm way behind on the new Top Gear.
My complaint about the US Top Gear is that they're wooden and feel scripted.
If you're
just saying that now, then yes, you're quite behind. :lol:
The Stig speaks
http://jalopnik.com/5747914/watch-the-new-stig-talk
So how about the Ashes special from the Brit point of view? I liked the Aussie version better, to be honest.
I thought the Aussie episode was a little better because the BBC version had some stuff cut out to make room the other stuff for a regular episode.
I was kinda pissed they pretty much just reshowed a previous episode.
We have Top Gear in the headlines of every major newspaper here in Mexico today because of the way they made fun of Mexicans in the news section when they talked about the Mastretta mexican sports car. Our embassy is demanding an apology from the BBC ha ha ha. I am guessing we will never get it.
It is a fuss all over the national media today, but I guess that for Mastretta there is no such thing as bad publicity since they are on every radio show and tv news today.
I could care less about their racist comments, they do it to every nationality (including themselves) and it?s part of the show?s mojo and personality. I say bring it on.
BTW it seems the car actually doesn?t suck. You can check it out here:
http://www.mastrettacars.com/#
Indeed, it does seem that the Top Gear comments did not amuse the Mexican Ambassador much:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12338053
I normally laugh at stuff like that, but I thought that was kinda rude and unfunny.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 01, 2011, 02:14:05 PM
I normally laugh at stuff like that, but I thought that was kinda rude and unfunny.
I was ROFL'ing at that entire statement in that link. :lol:
Although that Mastretta looks really really cool.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on February 01, 2011, 01:21:13 PM
We have Top Gear in the headlines of every major newspaper here in Mexico today because of the way they made fun of Mexicans in the news section when they talked about the Mastretta mexican sports car. Our embassy is demanding an apology from the BBC ha ha ha. I am guessing we will never get it.
It is a fuss all over the national media today, but I guess that for Mastretta there is no such thing as bad publicity since they are on every radio show and tv news today.
I could care less about their racist comments, they do it to every nationality (including themselves) and it?s part of the show?s mojo and personality. I say bring it on.
BTW it seems the car actually doesn?t suck. You can check it out here:
http://www.mastrettacars.com/#
I don't think any American tv show would've been able to get away with that.
Newest episode is up
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-16-episode-3_2197603.htm
The new Bentley Mulsanne is overrated.
Great episode. I really enjoyed it.
I feel sorry for Albanian cops if they really have to drive Chevy Aveos.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 08, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
I feel sorry for Albanian cops if they really have to drive Chevy Aveos.
US cops should have to drive Aveos.
I'm pretty mad the Mulsanne was left out. I did find it odd I came out liking the Merc the best, but I'd probably get the Ghost if I was buying in that segment. The S65 also has the worst resale known to man. For example:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=293963433&dealer_id=67007&car_year=2008&doors=&systime=&position=top&model=S65AMG&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=0&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1297192900459&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=y&make2=&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=newsortbyprice_DESC&max_mileage=&address=70118&color=&sort_type=yearDESC&max_price=&awsp=false&make=MB&seller_type=b&num_records=100&cardist=1681&standard=false&rdpage=thumb
Fuck for 96k why don't I buy 3 of them.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 08, 2011, 12:34:22 PM
Fuck for 96k why don't I buy 3 of them.
Srsly.
Maybe they'll throw in the 3rd for free after you buy the first two.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on February 08, 2011, 12:24:01 PM
I'm pretty mad the Mulsanne was left out. I did find it odd I came out liking the Merc the best, but I'd probably get the Ghost if I was buying in that segment. The S65 also has the worst resale known to man. For example:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=293963433&dealer_id=67007&car_year=2008&doors=&systime=&position=top&model=S65AMG&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=0&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1297192900459&marketZipError=false&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_display=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=y&make2=&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=0&transmission=&default_sort=newsortbyprice_DESC&max_mileage=&address=70118&color=&sort_type=yearDESC&max_price=&awsp=false&make=MB&seller_type=b&num_records=100&cardist=1681&standard=false&rdpage=thumb
The higher the price, the faster it drops.
Given Americans' obesity, ignorance, weird accents, and dull-wits, about which Clarkson never hesitates to remind us, I would have thought viewers of BBC America too slow to pick up on the anti-Mexican comments. Nonetheless the producers have seen fit to censor them from the version to be shown in the US.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12427905
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 11, 2011, 07:50:16 AM
Given Americans' obesity, ignorance, weird accents, and dull-wits, about which Clarkson never hesitates to remind us, I would have thought viewers of BBC America too slow to pick up on the anti-Mexican comments. Nonetheless the producers have seen fit to censor them from the version to be shown in the US.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12427905
Not really shocked by this at all.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 08, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
I feel sorry for Albanian cops if they really have to drive Chevy Aveos.
They are not AVEOs, they are a smaller model ... and yes, they are indeed the latest vehicles to join the force. Before them the most popular police cars were VW Polos, and before them FIAT Bravo.
As an Albanian myself, I did felt unease with the continuous "all cars in the country are stolen from EU". It's such a old and tiring stereotype left over from the '90s. Now days the stolen cars market is very small. But of course I did enjoyed the episode. :lol:
The cars on the show were Aveos.
Quote from: AltinD on February 12, 2011, 12:19:38 PM
They are not AVEOs, they are a smaller model ... and yes, they are indeed the latest vehicles to join the force. Before them the most popular police cars were VW Polos, and before them FIAT Bravo.
As an Albanian myself, I did felt unease with the continuous "all cars in the country are stolen from EU". It's such a old and tiring stereotype left over from the '90s. Now days the stolen cars market is very small. But of course I did enjoyed the episode. :lol:
I had no idea you were Albanian. So do you enjoy peaches? :lol:
^^ Actually the word does not exactly sound like the english word 'peach'. The word is 'pidh': (peeth) where 'th' is pronounced as in 'this'. Another word used, that is borrowed from the slavic languages, is more similar: 'picka' (peechkah).
However we do use from time to time the albanian word for 'peach', same way as you use 'cherry' :lol:
episode 4 is up
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-season-16-episode-4_2200463.htm
LMAO pubes and feces.
I don't think I had ever really heard the Mercedes V12 in full force before watching that episode with the Zonda. It sounded absolutely incredible.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on February 14, 2011, 02:30:34 PM
I don't think I had ever really heard the Mercedes V12 in full force before watching that episode with the Zonda. It sounded absolutely incredible.
Amazing as it is, ultimately its a pretty pointless car.
Good episode. I even enjoyed the SRPC.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 15, 2011, 10:41:47 AM
Amazing as it is, ultimately its a pretty pointless car.
All cars beyond basic transportation are pointless.
Quote from: Raza on February 15, 2011, 01:49:08 PM
All cars beyond basic transportation are pointless.
Yeah, but at least you can drive the majority of them on the road or race track.
What's the point of a car that isn't street legal, doesn't conform to any race class standards, and is too loud for most race tracks to begin with?
Just as Clarkson said, you can't even drive it unless you have your own personal track.
You can surely drive a Zonda on the roads.
Not the Zonda R.
nowhere did Caddy say Zonda R.
Watch the episode. It's the Zonda R. It is totally pointless.
I watched the Holy Land / Middle East episode last night. Loved it.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 15, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
Watch the episode. It's the Zonda R. It is totally pointless.
Did you watch the episode? There's also the Zonda Tricolore, and other road going Zondas.
Quote from: 68_427 on February 16, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
Did you watch the episode? There's also the Zonda Tricolore, and other road going Zondas.
Yes, but the Zonda R is the one that isn't legal to use anywhere except on your own personal track.
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 16, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
I watched the Holy Land / Middle East episode last night. Loved it.
Really? I thought it was one of the weakest specials they've ever done.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 17, 2011, 01:40:58 PM
Yes, but the Zonda R is the one that isn't legal to use anywhere except on your own personal track.
Yes I know that. I was referring to the post quoted below, which was a reply to Caddy saying that the V12 in the Zonda sounds good. Caddy didn't say Zonda R.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 15, 2011, 10:41:47 AM
Amazing as it is, ultimately its a pretty pointless car.
The SIARPC this week... could have been an hour and I would have watched it.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 17, 2011, 01:41:37 PM
Really? I thought it was one of the weakest specials they've ever done.
It was. But with Top Gear even a bad one is still good.
Could not find the newest episode on streetfire, but found the clips on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Adidas18Ro#p/u/3/dfT8pnfAJKA
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 20, 2011, 10:14:07 PM
Could not find the newest episode on streetfire, but found the clips on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Adidas18Ro#p/u/3/dfT8pnfAJKA
Blocked.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 21, 2011, 06:45:38 AM
Blocked.
Guess I caught it just in time. New one still isn't up on Streetfire, don't know what the deal is.
You guys don't torrent?
Why wait for a download when I can go ahead and watch it?
Quote from: 68_427 on February 21, 2011, 01:31:15 PM
You guys don't torrent?
streetfire.net usually has it up right away and then I don't have to download anything.
Well considering I can watch it a couple hours after it airs in EU...
Anyways the combine snow plow is actually a pretty cool idea.
It really is.
I didn't like that episode... Amber Heard was the only good part of that show.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 21, 2011, 01:45:27 PM
I didn't like that episode... Amber Heard was the only good part of that show.
I did like Amber Heard. Who doesn't love a bisexual, gun loving, and muscle car driving girl?
But don't think I'll be watching Drive Angry, any movie with a title like that does not sound worth watching.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 21, 2011, 01:35:04 PM
Why wait for a download when I can go ahead and watch it?
HD.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 21, 2011, 02:01:11 PM
I did like Amber Heard. Who doesn't love a bisexual, gun loving, and muscle car driving girl?
Poor lap time though.
She's hot, but I just couldn't watch the interview. She was hard to listen to.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 21, 2011, 01:45:27 PM
I didn't like that episode... Amber Heard was the only good part of that show.
She's super hot. Shame she's from the island nation Lesbos.
I just want to say that I'm not even through the first segment of the latest episode yet, but you take Jenna Jameson and Brianna Banks simultaneously performing sexual acts on you while having Mila Kunis make you a sammich and it still might not be as arousing.
Oh hot damn.
Test Drive 2: The Duel
Shame they didn't get lap times for them.
I got to the end of the segment. :lol:
Well, the big race was a letdown, but the rest of the episode was pretty good. Even the SIARPC was pretty good.
It was a great episode, I thought. It brought back the snark, as if it were ever missing.
I didn't know they had an automatic version of the reasonably priced car.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 28, 2011, 04:54:48 PM
I didn't know they had an automatic version of the reasonably priced car.
Neither did I. And it figures that the tool who showed up on the show decided to use it.
Quote from: the Teuton on February 28, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
Neither did I. And it figures that the tool who showed up on the show decided to use it.
:lol:
Kinda lame how this season was only 6 episodes long, 7 if you count the special.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 28, 2011, 05:11:23 PM
:lol:
Kinda lame how this season was only 6 episodes long, 7 if you count the special.
Wait, that was the last episode of the season? I might have fallen asleep before the episode ended last night.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 28, 2011, 04:54:48 PM
I didn't know they had an automatic version of the reasonably priced car.
Heard drove it as well. They didn't mention it but you could hear it.
They had an auto of the previous car too. Only saw that used once though.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 28, 2011, 05:51:15 PM
Heard drove it as well. They didn't mention it but you could hear it.
They had an auto of the previous car too. Only saw that used once though.
Damn, she doesn't seem so hot anymore.
I just watched the opening, and there's a Jag XJ and nobody's mentioned it yet?? :facepalm:
...whatt?? There's an F40 and a 959 and that's not mentioned!!!!
You're killing me people. The F40 was Ferrari's best of the Ferrari's of the pre-electronics enhancing era.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on March 01, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
...whatt?? There's an F40 and a 959 and that's not mentioned!!!!
You're killing me people. The F40 was Ferrari's best of the Ferrari's of the pre-electronics enhancing era.
Fixed.
Quote from: Colonel Cadillac on March 01, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
...whatt?? There's an F40 and a 959 and that's not mentioned!!!!
You're killing me people. The F40 was Ferrari's best of the Ferrari's of the pre-electronics enhancing era.
I didn't want to ruin it for people that hadn't seen it yet.
I thought my mentioning of Test Drive 2 would have been the tip off to anyone that ever played that game.
I love the 959 but man it looks frumpy compared to the F40.
There's so much body roll in the 959, but you also have to remember that it has a suspension and driveline that would be state-of-the-art by even today's standards. I still think it would have been just about as quick as the F40 had they both had a chance to get over the line.
Also, thank goodness for Canepa. Since the 2.85 liter Group B engine put out over 1,000 hp in some racing versions, 444 hp is relatively modest.
http://www.canepa.com/custom/959_story.html
Try 640 hp and a killer car overall. Anyone who cares about the collector value of these cars likely isn't the type of person who drives them.
If I could, I'd have three of them: A stock 959S, a Canepa 959, and perhaps one converted to 961 specification for a winter beater. :lol:
The Jaguar XJ sounded incredible in that piece. They really emphasized the exhaust note and I'm willing to bet it sounds better than all the V8's in that range. Clarkson definitely made me want the XJ hands down.
It does sounds good, a little bit of a muscle car sounds to me.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 21, 2011, 01:38:26 PM
Anyways the combine snow plow is actually a pretty cool idea.
Quote from: 68_427 on February 21, 2011, 01:42:44 PM
It really is.
Mercedes-Benz agrees that it is stupid to have snow plows just sitting around in the summer.
(http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/germany/mpc/mpc_germany_website/de/home_mpc/unimog_home/home/solutions/public_services.d2VsY29tZXNjcmVlbi5TaW5nbGU~-3087657596-FallbackImage.jpeg)
(http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/germany/mpc/mpc_germany_website/de/home_mpc/unimog_home/home/solutions/local_authority_contractors.d2VsY29tZXNjcmVlbi5TaW5nbGU~-2853890604-FallbackImage.jpeg)
So we have a Polish Top Gear now?
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/09/video-top-gear-poland-takes-women-to-mall-for-night-of-s/
Time to shoot away at polack jokes.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on March 09, 2011, 03:59:37 PM
So we have a Polish Top Gear now?
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/09/video-top-gear-poland-takes-women-to-mall-for-night-of-s/
Time to shoot away at polack jokes.
I hear that halfway through the season German Top Gear will invade Polish Top Gear and take over their show! Austrian and Czech Top Gear have already fallen.
:lol:
Quote from: Madman on March 09, 2011, 04:59:59 PM
I hear that halfway through the season German Top Gear will invade Polish Top Gear and take over their show! Austrian and Czech Top Gear have already fallen.
:lol:
Not if Russian Top Gear has anything to say about that. :lol:
"German Top Gear" is a horrible, horrible dubbed version of UK Top Gear. The voice over actors try to imitate the UK crew and they fail in the most horrible manner possible. The show is unwatchable.
Looks like Top Gear could get the royal treatment
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/11/prince-harry-poised-to-drive-top-gear-reasonably-priced-c/
Clarkson's characterization of the Toyota Yaris Verso: "This is for people whose lives are completely empty. They're looking forward to the day they'll die because it'll give them something to do. They don't have sex anymore, '...because these days, you know, we prefer sherry.' They are utterly, utterly boring and catastrophic in every way."
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Toyota_Fun_Cargo_004.JPG/180px-Toyota_Fun_Cargo_004.JPG)
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 16, 2011, 11:47:06 AM
Clarkson's characterization of the Toyota Yaris Verso: "This is for people whose lives are completely empty. They're looking forward to the day they'll die because it'll give them something to do. They don't have sex anymore 'Because these days, you know, we prefer sherry.' They are utterly, utterly boring and catastrophic in every way."
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/Toyota_Fun_Cargo_004.JPG/180px-Toyota_Fun_Cargo_004.JPG)
I wondered why he was dumping on the Yaris Verso now? It hasn't been sold in the UK since 2005!
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/toyota/yaris-verso-2000.aspx
(http://pic.phyrefile.com/b/bu/buffy09/2009/11/25/Heeeres_James.jpg)
(http://pic.phyrefile.com/b/bu/buffy09/2009/11/25/motivator889c24f3bfeb3cff5a7ef28d80a4047a3f0ecb54.jpg)
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Patiently waiting for Top Gear next month.
June 26 is the first of 6 new episodes.
Season 17 trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnpCp841_0&feature=player_embedded
A couple parts tonight had me loling tonight.
New UK episode
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-s17e5_2288546.htm
Quote from: 68_427 on July 24, 2011, 09:08:09 PM
A couple parts tonight had me loling tonight.
Same here.
America Top Gear was decent, but the UK version was excellent.
Quote from: hotrodalex on July 24, 2011, 10:32:36 PM
Same here.
America Top Gear was decent, but the UK version was excellent.
I wish we had an hour of show as well, I feel the show is rushed because they have to make room for commercials.
That's why I thought an automotive show on Showtime or HBO would be pretty sweet. I know it wouldn't reach a wide audience but it would be awesome.
Quote from: 68_427 on July 24, 2011, 10:41:26 PM
I wish we had an hour of show as well, I feel the show is rushed because they have to make room for commercials.
Yeah all they did was the truck-that's-not-a-truck challenge. UK Top Gear would have done that, the news, and a star in the reasonably priced car.
Next week Chumley and the bald guy from Pawn Stars will be driving the cheap car. I'm not going to be happy if they just get people from the History Channel to be guest "stars" this whole season.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on July 24, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
New UK episode
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-s17e5_2288546.htm
They have the best jobs in the world.
The Interceptor is a pretty sweet looking car, the local car museum has one. It's a shame it had to be built by British Leyland.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 24, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
They have the best jobs in the world.
Some of us are trying to get there...
Quote from: the Teuton on July 24, 2011, 11:30:10 PM
Some of us are trying to get there...
If they ever remake Motor Trend TV you can host it, all you need now is some aviators and a mustache :lol:
So it seems that Hammond and May will get their own shows on BBC America
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/25/top-gear-host-hammond-to-get-own-car-show-in-america/
a little different from Top Gear, but should still be entertaining.
Top Gear Special is airing in 2 weeks. It looks like they are in Africa again. Hopefully they learned some lessons from the India Special and this one will be good. The new season starts rights after and Hammond has posted a picture on his Facebook page of a new Viper, an LF-A, and a new Vanquish driving across Nevada.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 16, 2013, 10:31:15 AM
Top Gear Special is airing in 2 weeks. It looks like they are in Africa again. Hopefully they learned some lessons from the India Special and this one will be good. The new season starts rights after and Hammond has posted a picture on his Facebook page of a new Viper, an LF-A, and a new Vanquish driving across Nevada.
I didn't think the India special was bad. It did feel too scripted, but there were a lot of really cool parts, like the beer can cricket.
India was awful.
First Top Gear of the new season has just aired.....
In case you don't get the joke around the P45, it is the official HMRC (tax) document that you get when you leave employment........... I assume I don't have to explain "Dragons' Den"?
Quote from: SVT666 on January 16, 2013, 10:47:19 AM
India was awful.
Whether it was accurately truthful or not, my favorite part was the "revealing" highway traffic clips and the night time travel on the roadways. They made driving them seem downright terrifying.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 16, 2013, 10:47:19 AM
India was awful.
The hillclimb was cool, and the scenery in the Himalayas was alright, but yeah, otherwise balls. They weren't into it.
That girl during the news. hnng
Just finished it. Pretty good. A little surprised that Hammond liked the Pagani so much. It looked and sounded very German going around that track (yes, I know the prev gen had a MB based engine). Frankly, it looked slow. The Bentley segment was pretty kickass, amazing they let them do that. Liked the P45 bit as well.
Great fun watching the Continental run that stage.
The Huayra is fucking ugly, but holy shit is it fast. What's with the ridiculously cool shifter and then they also put paddle shifters. Don't get it. There were 3 women of note during the News. The one behind Jeremy was stunning, the one behind Hamster was a MILF, and the one behind and to the left of James had an actual eagle's beak for a nose. Fuck was she ugly. The Continental segment was incredible. The P45 segment had me LOLing the entire time until "Dragon's Den". Then it became less about the "car" and more a parody of the TV show which was disappointing. Overall though, it was an excellent episode.
I liked the center shifter on the Huayra. Pointless, but built very nicely. The thing that impressed me the most about it was the active flaps. Watching it come out of the right hander with the right rear flap up to keep the left side down was cool.
Fuck, I forgot to download the episode yesterday. Now I have to wait to get it.
Quote from: CALL_911 on January 28, 2013, 08:18:02 PM
Fuck, I forgot to download the episode yesterday. Now I have to wait to get it.
Watch it on Streetfire.net. No waiting and it's in HD.
I've got to watch this when I get some time. Probably tomorrow night.
Who needs you SuperBowl when you can watch this?
2/7. The trio of motoring enthusiasts embark on another epic road trip, this time across western America in front-engined supercars. Jeremy Clarkson pilots the Lexus LFA, which has a spectacularly high-revving V10 powerplant, Richard Hammond gets behind the wheel of the muscular Dodge Viper, and James May opts for the latest incarnation of Aston Martin's Vanquish. On their journey from Las Vegas to Palm Springs via Los Angeles, the presenters tackle racing circuits and find themselves in a race against the police, before rushing to the Mexican border - and there's a terrifying penalty for the last man to arrive. Meanwhile, Fleetwood Mac drummer Mick Fleetwood rolls up his sleeves to thrash the Reasonably Priced Car.
Starts in 5 minutes in my house.
Yep, I'm excited... I'll be watching on iPlayer at 9
Good show... loving the LFA..... and the roadtripping
The end with the Viper is hilarious
Got to see a full episode before the big game. Man that Aston looked good in the Grabber Blue style color. Also, for such a huge engine the Viper doesn't seem to make that much power.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 03, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
Also, for such a huge engine the Viper doesn't seem to make that much power.
I hope you're joking.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 03, 2013, 09:56:21 PM
I hope you're joking.
Well they are smaller engines out there that make about the same power without the help of a turbo or supercharger.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 03, 2013, 10:45:32 PM
Well they are smaller engines out there that make about the same power without the help of a turbo or supercharger.
And half the torque.
Doesn't the new viper have launch control? It should have handed the LFA its ass. On that note, why not show the 1/4 mile times/speeds?
I thought something was a bit fishy when they stopped at one pair of equal length burnouts lol
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on February 04, 2013, 07:04:26 PM
Doesn't the new viper have launch control? It should have handed the LFA its ass. On that note, why not show the 1/4 mile times/speeds?
They didn't show them because their times were pretty embarrassing.
I think next week Jeremy drives a GT500 vs a train. Bad handling jokes in 3, 2 ,1 ....
The train corners like it's on rails.
Really tired of the guys being astonished that the US has speed limits.
Yes, but 35 where that was filmed is kind of dumb. As many of our limits are. Then again we don't have speed cameras all over the place like they do.
I thought the "55 mph driving" was a hilarious touch.
It was, although I am sure similarly applicable in most of Europe.
Quote from: TBR on February 04, 2013, 10:16:55 PM
It was, although I am sure similarly applicable in most of Europe.
Yeah, definitely, although by this point it's pretty obvious that if Top Gear is coming to the US, they're going to rag on us in some way.
They know you guys take it so well........
Quote from: thecarnut on February 04, 2013, 09:59:10 PM
I thought the "55 mph driving" was a hilarious touch.
I got a kick out of it.
Quote from: Onslaught on February 04, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
Yes, but 35 where that was filmed is kind of dumb. As many of our limits are. Then again we don't have speed cameras all over the place like they do.
It was dumb to have the limit at 35 there. I've driven on a 2 lane road in Arizona where the limit was 60 or 65.
Just saw the first episode of season 19 and I have to say I developed some respect for the Continental GT. It is still an ugly fat pig, but it is a pig that can fly.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 05, 2013, 06:43:42 AM
It was dumb to have the limit at 35 there. I've driven on a 2 lane road in Arizona where the limit was 60 or 65.
wouldn't surprise me for a second if the speed limit sign was another clever edit.
I don't think it is, on this occasion.... I've driven in the Valley of the Fire, which is a State Park, and I am pretty sure that there was quite a low speed limit there.
Parks have stupid speed limits. It's 50mph on the Natchez Trace Parkway, which is bs. BTW the American version is back on. Looks like they aren't doing anything in the studio anymore or having stars in cars segments.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on February 07, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
Parks have stupid speed limits. It's 50mph on the Natchez Trace Parkway, which is bs. BTW the American version is back on. Looks like they aren't doing anything in the studio anymore or having stars in cars segments.
They haven't done any of that in a long time. The show is better for it since they sucked at interviewing.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 07, 2013, 07:24:07 PM
They haven't done any of that in a long time. The show is better for it since they sucked at interviewing.
Not enough time for it either.
But I'm not sure I like only having challenge episodes. The original show is really good in the studio too, which is part of what makes it good. Too many challenges makes you "immune" to them and they get less funny.
Coming up this evening:
3/7. Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May embark on a race from London's Wembley Stadium to Milan's San Siro, the home of Italian football giants AC and Inter. A price restriction leads Jeremy to grab the keys to a Shelby Mustang GT500, which costs the equivalent of £35,000 in America and packs a supercharged punch of more than 650bhp. James and Richard pin their hopes on the pan-European rail network in a bid to secure the prize of tickets to a top-flight football match, with nothing but a long journey home awaiting the losers. On the test track, Jeremy puts Toyota's GT86 coupe through its paces, and its promise of entertaining rear-wheel-drive handling should put a smile on his face. Plus, singer-songwriter Amy Macdonald gets to grips with the Reasonably Priced Car.
Quote from: hotrodalex on February 07, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
Not enough time for it either.
But I'm not sure I like only having challenge episodes. The original show is really good in the studio too, which is part of what makes it good. Too many challenges makes you "immune" to them and they get less funny.
For that matter, I appreciate reviews of new cars. If all they do are challenges (many entailing purchasing older cars on a budget), you don't really get that. Granted, with advertising dollars reigning supreme in the US, it's hard to have a show with objective reviews of new cars because manufacturers will pull their advertising money or other support if you give a bad review to a car.
Quote from: hotrodalex on February 07, 2013, 11:40:43 PM
But I'm not sure I like only having challenge episodes. The original show is really good in the studio too, which is part of what makes it good. Too many challenges makes you "immune" to them and they get less funny.
Agreed.
The challenges are fun, but it does get old if you don't mix it up a bit.
This Amy MacDonald is hot, but god, that accent is grating.
Ok, so you have 3 amazing cars (viper, lfa, vanquish) on one of the best tracks in america and you do a worthless and tiresome plane scene... are you farkin kidding me
It could have been just incredible.... instead they try wayy too hard to be amusing
Clarkson just can't find it in himself to compliment the Mustang or American cars in general. It's a tired shtick. Good race. Great car. Incredibly hot and unbelievably attractive in every way Amy McDonald.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 12, 2013, 01:07:27 AM
Incredibly hot and unbelievably attractive in every way Amy McDonald.
Except for her voice. Blech
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 12, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
Except for her voice. Blech
I've always had a soft spot for the Scottish accent.
Oh wow
I just fell in love :lol:
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 12, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
Except for her voice. Blech
She wouldn't be doing much talking, but I kinda liked it anyway..
Well, the American TG this week has pretty much the exact same premise as the UK RV episode from a couple seasons ago. Tanner in a Porsche with a sleeping capsule, mole guy in a triple decker Buick, and Rutledge in a Civic wagon with (presumably, haven't gotten far yet) a bunch of collapsible walls in the back (and a toilet for a front seat).
Quote from: TBR on February 12, 2013, 08:20:07 PM
Well, the American TG this week has pretty much the exact same premise as the UK RV episode from a couple seasons ago. Tanner in a Porsche with a sleeping capsule, mole guy in a triple decker Buick, and Rutledge in a Civic wagon with (presumably, haven't gotten far yet) a bunch of collapsible walls in the back (and a toilet for a front seat).
Quite a few of their challenges are essentially rehashes of old TG:UK challenges with only a few subtle differences.
Quote from: MX793 on February 12, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Quite a few of their challenges are essentially rehashes of old TG:UK challenges with only a few subtle differences.
True, but normally the cars seem more different. This is pretty shameless.
Wow is all I can say about Amy Macdonald. I even dig that accent. :lol:
Quote from: TBR on February 12, 2013, 08:27:22 PM
True, but normally the cars seem more different. This is pretty shameless.
It was... and I think even worse they completely abandoned reviewing new or relevant cars and replaced a car show with a comedy show
Quote from: The_Joker on February 12, 2013, 11:20:30 PM
Wow is all I can say about Amy Macdonald. I even dig that accent. :lol:
If there are more women left in Scotland like her, my penis will soon be invading that country
Quote from: HotRodPilot on February 13, 2013, 12:07:51 PM
If there are more women left in Scotland like her, my penis will soon be invading that country
Without sounding creepy there was something about the way she spoke, smiled, was a gearhead, and ran a lap around the track that makes her seem like a fun person to be around. Never heard of her or her music before.
Quote from: The_Joker on February 13, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
Without sounding creepy there was something about the way she spoke, smiled, was a gearhead, and ran a lap around the track that makes her seem like a fun person to be around. Never heard of her or her music before.
Her love of the R8 and the fact that she bought 3 of them did it for me.
Top Gear America's blatant shameless ripoff of the homemade RV's wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but do the American producers think that their viewers have never seen the original Top Gear?
I haven't watched Top Gear US since partway through Season 1, has it gotten any better since then?
Quote from: The_Joker on February 15, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
I haven't watched Top Gear US since partway through Season 1, has it gotten any better since then?
Much better.
Guess I have to check out some episodes now that l am completely caught up on TG UK.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 12, 2013, 01:54:55 PM
I've always had a soft spot for the Scottish accent.
That was only a moderate accent....... even after spending several months working north of the border, I find there are plenty of Glaswegians who are impossible to understand. The Edinburgh accent is somewhat easier.
I'd seen articles in a couple of the Scottish papers a couple of days before this was first screened, but I confess I had no idea who she was. What a delight, though - clearly a massive petrol head and stunning looking to go with it.
Maybe now her music career is taking off she can afford to buy some jeans without holes in the knees.
Episode 4/7............ the new Cee'd is subjected a variety of tests, Jeremy tests three of the latest hot hatchbacks, Hammond enters Mexico to test the Mastretta and the Star in the old Reasonably Priced Liana is none other than Lewis Hamilton.
Quote from: MX793 on February 12, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Quite a few of their challenges are essentially rehashes of old TG:UK challenges with only a few subtle differences.
IDK, the rental car challenge made me LOL. I was surprised the Yaris made it that far.
Quote from: Colin on February 17, 2013, 02:15:04 PM
Episode 4/7............ the new Cee'd is subjected a variety of tests, Jeremy tests three of the latest hot hatchbacks, Hammond enters Mexico to test the Mastretta and the Star in the old Reasonably Priced Liana is none other than Lewis Hamilton.
Hasn't he already been on?
TG USA sucks.
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 17, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
TG USA sucks.
I think the hosts have chemistry, I think the show tries to stick too hard to the UK's model.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 17, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
I think the hosts have chemistry, I think the show tries to stick too hard to the UK's model.
Their chemistry is forced and scripted. It remains virtually unwatchable.
I really haven't even tried watching it.
Quote from: Eye of the Tiger on February 17, 2013, 02:51:17 PM
Their chemistry is forced and scripted. It remains virtually unwatchable.
Hmm? I think they have pretty good chemistry? I haven't really watched it lately, that or TG UK.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 17, 2013, 02:52:35 PM
Hmm? I think they have pretty good chemistry? I haven't really watched it lately, that or TG UK.
I just watched their rip off of the real show's home made RV cars. If I ignore their talking, I can watch it for the cars.
You're just mad because you wish you were Rutledge.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 17, 2013, 02:56:32 PM
You're just mad because you wish you were Rutledge.
Is that the annoying incompetent fat one with the big head? Or is that the useless one? Or the only one who can actually drive.
Quote from: 2o6 on February 17, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
I think the hosts have chemistry, I think the show tries to stick too hard to the UK's model.
That's one of the reasons I don't like it- their "chemistry" is way too forced.
That was a good one... Had a good chuckle at Layla...
That was a really good episode. The rugby game was awesome. That poor grass though.
e-brake :lol:
5/7. Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond try to solve the problems increasingly complex cars pose to an ageing population, designing a vehicle for elderly people and putting it to the test in Dorset with the help of three pensioners. Meanwhile, James May gets acquainted with the latest Range Rover in London before pitting the luxurious off-roader against an autonomous military machine in Nevada. X-Men: First Class star James McAvoy tackles the test track in the Reasonably Priced Car
Last weeks was difficult to follow but I enjoyed the Range Rover bit.
I thought the Range Rover performed admirably.
Eh, not a very good episode.
That was a pretty good episode. I enjoyed it.
I'm going to be hosting a Top Gear Night as my house. We will be watching the North Pole, Vietnam, and Bolivia specials. It's gonna be good.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 17, 2013, 02:40:05 PM
Hasn't he already been on?
Yeah he was in series 10 ( 2007 I think ). There's been a few guests that have been on the show twice though.
This episode kind of sucked. Didn't enjoy it all that much.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 26, 2013, 01:38:23 PM
I'm going to be hosting a Top Gear Night as my house. We will be watching the North Pole, Vietnam, and Bolivia specials. It's gonna be good.
Well, that's kind of unique and cool.
Sadly, I have to watch Top Gear alone since my friends aren't cool enough to appreciate it... :cry:
Just watched the American one. The taxi challenge was alright. Looks like they are having car football next week. Doesn't look as good as car rugby.
1st part of the 2 episodes in Africa is on now.
Will May's Volvo 850R and Clarkson's 528i Touring prove as tough as Hammond's Impreza WRX as they head to the source of the Nile.
I didn't like last week's episode much (19x05).
lol @ 5 series skid plate. I don't know if I just wasn't paying attention when he cut it out, but I did notice it was missing...
Part 1 of "Source of the Nile" is awesome. I enjoyed every minute of it.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 04, 2013, 12:04:23 PM
Part 1 of "Source of the Nile" is awesome. I enjoyed every minute of it.
Me too. I loved the Toto bit.
Watched it again without doing something else at the same time. This one is right up there with the best of them.
That was amazing.
I need a Subaru. I hope Richard didn't break it in Part 2.
One of the best. They just keep delivering.
I'd like a poster of Clarkson contentedly knocking back a beer in the evening light.
Tag line: "Fuck the critics."
It was great. Not as great as The North Pole, Vietnam, or Bolivia, but definitely as good or better than Botswana and Iraq.
Quote from: thecarnut on March 04, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
That was amazing.
I need a Subaru. I hope Richard didn't break it in Part 2.
Of course he did. But then he fixed it.
I would probably only put this one ahead of the two America specials and Iraq, but really great TV regardless. Of course the whole time I couldn't help but think that my car would be much better at it than any of their's while still fitting the criteria.
I lol'd at the parts swapping. I knew the jagged cuts would drive May nuts.
The last episode of Top Gear America was actually quite entertaining. They had to build a vehicle to survive an apocalypse. I LOL'd through the whole thing.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2013, 09:52:51 AM
The last episode of Top Gear America was actually quite entertaining. They had to build a vehicle to survive an apocalypse. I LOL'd through the whole thing.
I heard it was extra shitty so I didn't bother watching.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 13, 2013, 05:45:34 PM
I lol'd at the parts swapping. I knew the jagged cuts would drive May nuts.
I didn't like the parts swapping. Made the cars even shittier. Dumbass May should've used his own door. :facepalm:
I was especially sad when they took apart Richards car, though the toilet scoop was pretty funny.
Quote from: thecarnut on March 15, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
I heard it was extra shitty so I didn't bother watching.
Whoever said that was wrong.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2013, 11:35:19 AM
Whoever said that was wrong.
Or you're just a redneck. :devil:
Top Gear America: Iceland was very good. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Top Gear UK is back June 30th.
Do they play current episodes on BBC Canada?
No. 2 seasons behind.
Preview for the new Top Gear says the first episode will include a comparison of the Fiesta ST v Peugeot 208 GTi and Renault Clio RenaultSport 200, as well as a brand new Reasonably Priced Car.
Quote from: Colin on June 28, 2013, 11:47:42 AM
Preview for the new Top Gear says the first episode will include a comparison of the Fiesta ST v Peugeot 208 GTi and Renault Clio RenaultSport 200, as well as a brand new Reasonably Priced Car.
And the new Reasonably Priced Car is a Vauxhall Astra. Problem is the RPC is supposed to be a shitty car and the new Astra isn't shitty at all.
They should have chosen James May's favourite car, the Dacia Sandero!
Quote from: Madman on June 28, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
And the new Reasonably Priced Car is a Vauxhall Astra. Problem is the RPC is supposed to be a shitty car and the new Astra isn't shitty at all.
They should have chosen James May's favourite car, the Dacia Sandero!
I thought the car was supposed to be "Mediocre", not shitty? Liana, Lacetti, Cee'd...they strike me as mediocre.
Exactly.
Its a "reasonably priced car," not a "bargain basement beater special."
Quote from: 2o6 on June 28, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
I thought the car was supposed to be "Mediocre", not shitty? Liana, Lacetti, Cee'd...they strike me as mediocre.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on June 28, 2013, 07:39:19 PM
Exactly.
Its a "reasonably priced car," not a "bargain basement beater special."
Its classic British understatement. "Resonably Priced Car" translates as "Undesirable Pile of Crap". :lol:
Excellent episode. Soooo much better than the US version.
After reading about it and now seeing it on Top Gear, I'm definitely in love with the Ferrari F12. One of the best looking cars out right now, and technologically brilliant.
I wish Ferrari would pick a naming scheme and stick with it.
I'm in love with the F12.
The episode was okay, I wasn't too impressed.
I like how it looks, but it's so busy inside.
The limo incident was blatantly set up since cars doesn't blow apart like that, and the BBC building race was boring, but otherwise it was pretty good.
Yeah they probably took the frame out of the limo for that shot.
The E-class jump was also clearly set-up. Those races are hilarious when they just let touring car drivers be touring car drivers, no need for the fluff.
I agree. I hate when it is blatantly obvious.
I have no idea why, but the unnecessary destruction of that W210 kind of annoyed me. I found the limo split hilarious, though.
Quote from: Madman on June 29, 2013, 06:26:39 PM
Its classic British understatement. "Resonably Priced Car" translates as "Undesirable Pile of Crap". :lol:
I love how these things enter the language as euphemisms.
I found this on the BBC site:
"A man at my dad's workplace told his wife he was "nipping out for a cabbage", left the house and didn't return for 14 years. Now if somebody walks out on their partner, we say they nipped out for a cabbage. Can also be used to end a row: "That's it, I'm nipping out for a cabbage [door slam]."
Quote from: SVT666 on June 27, 2013, 11:10:24 PM
No. 2 seasons behind.
Really? BBC America is only a week behind.
Quote from: MX793 on July 12, 2013, 09:58:48 AM
Really? BBC America is only a week behind.
Since when? BBC America used to be at least a season behind.
Quote from: SVT666 on July 12, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
Since when? BBC America used to be at least a season behind.
The hot hatch episode with the new Fiesta ST aired this past Monday, a week after it aired in the UK. Been that way for the past couple of seasons.
www.streetfire.net (http://www.streetfire.net) has it within a coupe of hours after it airs in the UK.
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 12, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
I love how these things enter the language as euphemisms.
I found this on the BBC site:
"A man at my dad's workplace told his wife he was "nipping out for a cabbage", left the house and didn't return for 14 years.
When he returned 14 years later did he at least remember to bring home the cabbage?
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 12, 2013, 09:39:57 AM
I love how these things enter the language as euphemisms.
I found this on the BBC site:
"A man at my dad's workplace told his wife he was "nipping out for a cabbage", left the house and didn't return for 14 years. Now if somebody walks out on their partner, we say they nipped out for a cabbage. Can also be used to end a row: "That's it, I'm nipping out for a cabbage [door slam]."
What the hell did that mean before this?
Quote from: Madman on July 12, 2013, 05:30:23 PM
www.streetfire.net (http://www.streetfire.net) has it within a coupe of hours after it airs in the UK.
That's what I do.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on July 12, 2013, 06:42:59 PM
What the hell did that mean before this?
That he was going outside to change the oil in the car.
Much better episode tonight. The team take three open top supercars (Audi R8 V10, Ferrari 458 Spider and McLaren 12C) to Spain, and the Star in the Not So Reasonably Priced Car is Benedict Cumberbatch.
Won't spoil it for those who have yet to watch.........
Mono and a F12 pleeease... Two insane cars
Quote from: Colin on July 14, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Much better episode tonight. The team take three open top supercars (Audi R8 V10, Ferrari 458 Spider and McLaren 12C) to Spain, and the Star in the Not So Reasonably Priced Car is Benedict Cumberbatch.
Won't spoil it for those who have yet to watch.........
Now there's an interview I want to see. He and Jeremy both quick witted and forked tongues. Sounds like fun!
Very good episode, and the Cumberbatch interview was great.
I'm a bit behind since I don't have a reliable internet connection and have to watch the BBC America episodes but IMO maybe Spain should just open a lot of public race courses.
The bleak images of Spain were a bit depressing, surely not representative of the country as a whole. I know the Eurozone tax/borrow/spend system has had a devastating effect on many countries, but making the place a dystopian post-zombie wasteland is a bit silly.
While the electric SLS is awesome, its segment really shows you how much the engine noise contributes to the car experience. Car shows won't be nearly as exciting if/when electric cars take over.
Sesto Elemento is absolutely nuts. Seems to have almost perfect handling (springs might be a bit too stiff for imperfect tracks, though) and I correctly guessed its place on the lap board.
Sesto Elemento is absolutely insane. It's awesome. Overall it was a pretty good episode.
The last episode with the F-Type was awesome. Really loved the bit with all of the British cars gathering at the end.
Agreed. The dogging references had me laughing. Nice to see them slide stuff past the censors
The F-Type has officially the best sounding V6 in history. It sounds better than many V8s (including all of GM's V8s). I must have one some day...with a manual. I am in love with it.
This was an excellent episode.
Taken as a whole, I thought that this series was the best one for a very long time. Yes, it is still more about entertainment than cars, and there were some annoying bits (esp in the first program when they trashed the Not so Reasonably Priced New Car and those Aurises in NZ) but they managed to inject more car content this time around, with some very good features. Like most of my compatriots, I welled up with national pride in the ending of the last program of the series - just wish I had been on The Mall when they assembled that amazing collection of machinery, it would have been a splendid sight.
Quote from: SVT666 on August 07, 2013, 11:23:01 PM
The F-Type has officially the best sounding V6 in history. It sounds better than many V8s (including all of GM's V8s). I must have one some day...with a manual. I am in love with it.
This was an excellent episode.
I thought they weren't offering it with a manual? With that supercharged V6 sound though, I'd still love an autotragic coupe.
Manuals are coming. They aren't available yet though.
Quote from: SVT666 on August 08, 2013, 09:21:07 AM
Manuals are coming. They aren't available yet though.
Link? I thought they never confirmed it...
I'd be fine with an auto. The noise and styling more than make up for it. :wub:
Quote from: SVT666 on August 08, 2013, 09:21:07 AM
Manuals are coming. They aren't available yet though.
Really? I know there are plenty of people who hope this to be true, but I am not aware of any official statement to say that this is the case..........
Quote from: hotrodalex on July 23, 2013, 11:43:21 PM
While the electric SLS is awesome, its segment really shows you how much the engine noise contributes to the car experience. Car shows won't be nearly as exciting if/when electric cars take over.
I was surprised they didn't show the e-SLS running out of juice mid-lap like they did when they tested the Tesla. They at least noted that it had very little range (can't even make 2 full, fast laps of the Nurburgring) and that it takes a while to charge.
Seeing all the British built vehicles in one setting was pretty neat.
Quote from: Mustangfan2003 on August 12, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Seeing all the British built vehicles in one setting was pretty neat.
I agree. As I've said elsewhere, the British national mood is quite positive at the moment.
Quote from: Morris Minor on August 13, 2013, 06:27:32 PM
I agree. As I've said elsewhere, the British national mood is quite positive at the moment.
They're just happy the Premier League starts again this Saturday, well I am to to be honest.
Probably happier that we won the Ashes..... narrow victory in the 4th test meant that the fact that we won on merit (3 matches won and the third test a draw thanks to the weather).
Tribal warfare, otherwise known as the first England v Scotland football international since 1999 is going on right now.
and I believe the Lions did pretty well against Australia. Missed the England vs Scotland game since the US was playing Bosnia at the same time. I expected a larger margin of victory seeing that Scotland football has been down for a while. I don't think they've qualified for a World Cup since 98 and not even sure about a Euro appearance.
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/TopGear-magazine-20th-anniversary-special-2013-09-10?utm_expid=12261766-9.n3UKns_sT6uGHKlagvv2qg.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.topgear.com%2Fuk%2F (http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/TopGear-magazine-20th-anniversary-special-2013-09-10?utm_expid=12261766-9.n3UKns_sT6uGHKlagvv2qg.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.topgear.com%2Fuk%2F)
Click on the burnt car picture. Top Gear killed one of the cars I wanted to see one day at Seven Stock. I'm sure something went wrong that was unavoidable. Turns out it happened in 2008 but this is the first I've ever seen of it.
Top Gear USA doing a boat episode tonight crossing Lake Ontario from Buffalo to Toronto
I don't think there is a Top Gear Christmas Special this year. They are advertising for Season 21 in January only.
Quote from: SVT666 on December 18, 2013, 11:23:59 AM
I don't think there is a Top Gear Christmas Special this year. They are advertising for Season 21 in January only.
There is no broadcast Christmas special, but they did release a DVD in the UK for the holiday season; Top Gear, The Perfect Road Trip.
Watch it here.....
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-the-perfect-road-trip_part-1_2442600.htm (http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-the-perfect-road-trip_part-1_2442600.htm)
Yeah, I watched it the day it came out.
Season 21 started last night (7 programmes in the series)....... but thanks to some brain failure, I forgot and so have not watched it yet. I gather that it was barely about cars....... next week, they get behind the wheel of the McLaren P1, though.
Episode 1 was kinda lame.
I'm like 45 mins into the first episode, not really a fan
Top Gear is filming in my town in about a week. One of the boys (I'm guessing Hammond) will be driving the Hennessey VelociRaptor SUV. A little south of here there is a great desert area for testing that truck off road.
Top Gear filming in the South Okanagan
A very popular car show has announced it will be filming in the Okanagan later this month.
Top Gear, the British television series about cool cars and other vehicles, will be testing out the Hennessey VelociRaptor SUV on highways in the South Okanagan and Boundary Regions.
"This is awesome for the region as the show has such a huge worldwide audience, it is great exposure for our area and for producers to see the kind of scenery and locations we offer," says Okanagan Film Commissioner Jon Summerland.
The Top Gear commentary in Forza is not bad.
Well, I found out the route Top Gear will be driving that VelociRaptor on and it doesn't make sense. That highway is one of the most fun roads I have ever driven and is much more suited to sports cars...though they are driving it when we are expected to get some snow.
Well, I was supposed to be in Trail, BC for work this morning, but we had a big snowfall last night over most of the province and highways are shut down and I can't get there. Guess where Top Gear is stuck. Trail, BC.
The BBC show 'Top Gear' was scheduled to be in the Okanagan to shoot a segment for their show, but as it turns out, their trip to our province was not without some bumps in the road.
Jeremy Clarkson -- the host of one of the world's best-known television shows -- and his crew found themselves stranded in Trail on Sunday. And not knowing what to do, he took to Twitter to ask for suggestions on how to pass the time in the small town of 8,000 people.
Aren't they in a VelicoRaptor? Shouldn't be an issue. At least for the few people that can fit in the truck. Camera crew is out of luck. :lol:
Quote from: hotrodalex on November 26, 2014, 02:01:42 PM
Aren't they in a VelicoRaptor? Shouldn't be an issue. At least for the few people that can fit in the truck. Camera crew is out of luck. :lol:
Highways are open now, so they'll be on their way. This is good to know. I know where they will be now. Time to call in sick and go stalki...searching.
Quote from: hotrodalex on November 26, 2014, 02:01:42 PM
Aren't they in a VelicoRaptor? Shouldn't be an issue. At least for the few people that can fit in the truck. Camera crew is out of luck. :lol:
Camera crew is likely in some kind of SUV. IIRC, in a lot of episodes their crew is in a Land Rover.
Quote from: MX793 on November 26, 2014, 04:24:09 PM
Camera crew is likely in some kind of SUV. IIRC, in a lot of episodes their crew is in a Land Rover.
Pretty sure they always use Land Rovers.
Quote from: SVT666 on November 26, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Pretty sure they always use Land Rovers.
They use Land Rovers in the UK but, in Canada, I'm sure they'll be using whatever Avis/Hertz/Enterprise sticks them with.
Quote from: Madman on November 26, 2014, 04:53:49 PM
They use Land Rovers in the UK but, in Canada, I'm sure they'll be using whatever Avis/Hertz/Enterprise sticks them with.
They're probably renting from a company that specializes in supplying film crews.
Quote from: SVT666 on November 26, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Pretty sure they always use Land Rovers.
I think I've seen them use vans from time to time.
Quote from: Soup DeVille on November 27, 2014, 12:10:39 AM
They're probably renting from a company that specializes in supplying film crews.
There are plenty of those out here.
Watching Part 1 of the Patagonia Christmas special right now... (BBC2).
Not going to spoil it for you all.
To be honest, the ending was the only interesting part. Awesome scenery and camera work, but overall pretty meh.
Where can I stream it? Streetfire.net doesn't have it for some reason.
http://vidbull.com/krhblxqus32d.html (http://vidbull.com/krhblxqus32d.html)
part 2
http://www.dailymotion.com/user/topgear2015/1 (http://www.dailymotion.com/user/topgear2015/1)
It's in 3 parts, 11, 22 and 33.
Awesome. Thanks.
I thought it was quite good.
My Google Now is indicating tomorrow night on BBC America is part 1 of the Patagonia special... Woohooo!!!! Its back!!!!!
Quote from: r0tor on January 11, 2015, 07:11:01 PM
My Google Now is indicating tomorrow night on BBC America is part 1 of the Patagonia special... Woohooo!!!! Its back!!!!!
Yeah. Wtf took so long?
I watched the Patagonia special. Thought is was pretty good. Reinforced my reasons for boycotting Argentinian wine - futile gesture.
It also brought home to me the logistical effort behind filming these shows - lots of people, lots of gear, lots of vehicles.
I really enjoyed the Patagonia special
Holy balls the Huracan is fast.
Quote from: hotrodalex on January 25, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
Holy balls the Huracan is fast.
Yup
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/EKaru/EKaru4/EKaru4106/1_zpsaf20b00f.jpg)
During the review I couldn't decide if I wanted to drive a Huracan, Aventador, or 458 next time I go to Vegas. Like they said, it's an amazing performance machine but it doesn't look wild enough. After watching the lap, it was an easy decision.
I can't find Top Gear online. Streetfire doesn't have the latest episodes anymore. Can someone give me a link to a site where I can watch them?
I just torrent it from kickass
Download hola extension on chrome and just watch in on BBC iplayer
Quote from: 68_427 on January 27, 2015, 04:32:08 PM
Download hola extension on chrome and just watch in on BBC iplayer
Brilliant suggestion. It works great. Thanks.
I want a GT V8S now
Episode 1 was pretty boring. The only good segment was the Huracan. The race was exactly the same race they ran in London and I was bored to tears.
Episode 2 was much better. I enjoyed it. The Continental GT was pretty friggin' impressive.
Man I love the GTR
Quote from: CALL_911 on February 02, 2015, 09:33:32 PM
Man I love the GTR
I've driven one on a track. It's a beast. The acceleration is mind boggling, and the brakes are otherworldly, but the most impressive thing is how it corners. It defies physics. You feel all 4000 lbs in the corners, but it just sticks like glue. My complaints with it are that you do feel all 4000 lbs when cornering, the engine noise is muted and not very inspiring, and the car doesn't "feel" special inside. The paddles are the exact same paddles my Infiniti G37 has, and the dash looks cheap. The seats are fantastic though.
Coming from someone who wants to replace his car with an STI, I'm cool with the lack of feeling special.
Also, I totally feel their sentiment on the CGT. I've never liked the Continental GT, and while this one doesn't really excite me, I don't mind it. The M6 is sweet, but for some reason I just don't "want" one. I'd actually rather have an M5, but I'd rather have an M3 than an M5.
Does the M6 really stop quicker than the GT-R or was that just the driver?
Some real LOL moments this week.
I wasn't really a fan of that episode
I lol'd pretty hard at the patient ejector at the end.
That was not my favorite episode - I don't mind the stunts, but it would be good to throw in an eval of a car now & then.
WTH is this turning into American Top Gear with no car reviews?
They've done a ton of episodes like that. :huh: Still did the Star in a Reasonably Priced car (which I totally guessed the lap time on!).
Quote from: Morris Minor on February 10, 2015, 06:08:15 AM
That was not my favorite episode - I don't mind the stunts, but it would be good to throw in an eval of a car now & then.
I'd expect them to wring out the new Mustang but probably not until the next series since I believe they filmed all of this season's shows prior to the new model's release.
Quote from: CLKid on February 10, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
I'd expect them to wring out the new Mustang but probably not until the next series since I believe they filmed all of this season's shows prior to the new model's release.
Yeah, I'm here thinking about any all-new or significantly updated performance cars in the past year or so and I'm drawing a blank. I suppose they could test a Challenger Hellcat or Z28 (don't believe either have been tested by the show yet), though I don't think either are officially sold in Europe. The C7 Stingray as well. Otherwise it seems like most stuff is either end of generation and about to be replaced or at least not significantly changed since the last time they tested them.
They show the Stingray in the trailer for this season.
Episode 3 was funny, especially the patient delivery systems. The F1 driver interview was great too. I would like to see more car reviews though, because this season is kind of following Top Gear USA's format.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 10, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
They show the Stingray in the trailer for this season.
That will give Clarkson an opportunity to gripe about the Corvette's weight while conveniently ignoring the fact the F-type, for example, is a couple of hundred pounds heavier.
Looks like Will Smith is next week's SiaRPC.
Quote from: CLKid on February 10, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
That will give Clarkson an opportunity to gripe about the Corvette's weight while conveniently ignoring the fact the F-type, for example, is a couple of hundred pounds heavier.
yes, but the F-type isn't made of plastic.
Clarkson loves the stingray
Now I really like the AMG GT. Looked really good on the show.
And the i8 looked incredible as ever.
Holy shit. I felt like I was having an anxiety attack when that Defender started creaking. LOL
Quote from: 68_427 on February 15, 2015, 11:37:59 PM
Now I really like the AMG GT. Looked really good on the show.
And the i8 looked incredible as ever.
+million
Quote from: SVT666 on February 16, 2015, 01:04:21 AM
Holy shit. I felt like I was having an anxiety attack when that Defender started creaking. LOL
lol and the obvious design flaw on the winch attachment. Needed some kind of movable pulley or something.
I'm glad Will Smith got beaten by the girl. Half the interview I was just hoping he would be quiet for a minute and let her talk more. I like him, but he's so loud.
Yeah, I didn't like Will Smith at all in that interview. He was putting on a show. He isn't even a fan of the show and he made that clear as day when he had no idea what happened in Argentina.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 16, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
Yeah, I didn't like Will Smith at all in that interview. He was putting on a show. He isn't even a fan of the show and he made that clear as day when he had no idea what happened in Argentina.
Dude's been out filming and promoting a new film. You really think he has time to follow much of what's on television recently?
Also, these shows are all recorded way ahead of when they are aired. They shoot the entire season before the first episode is televised. It's entirely possible this was recorded before the Argentina special aired.
I think my faith in the M3 was somewhat restored and my indifference to the i8 has been fortified
Quote from: MX793 on February 17, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
Dude's been out filming and promoting a new film. You really think he has time to follow much of what's on television recently?
Also, these shows are all recorded way ahead of when they are aired. They shoot the entire season before the first episode is televised. It's entirely possible this was recorded before the Argentina special aired.
The studio stuff is filmed on Tuesday of that week I think.
Great episode. Not a bad segment in it.
Re M3 vs i8, the mind wants the M3 but the heart wants the i8.
Quote from: MX793 on February 17, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
Dude's been out filming and promoting a new film. You really think he has time to follow much of what's on television recently?
Also, these shows are all recorded way ahead of when they are aired. They shoot the entire season before the first episode is televised. It's entirely possible this was recorded before the Argentina special aired.
Nope, the studio bits are done the week before the episode airs in TV.
Clarkson sitting on a bench in Whitby, eating cod & chips, ruminating on the i8. It was good TV.
Pug segment had me in tears holy cow.
Last night's episode was good. I can't believe how scared Ferrari is to have their car tested that they will bar any current owner from buying another Ferrari if they lend theirs to Top Gear.
Another limited production Ferrari, not any Ferrari. I bet they get a lot of shit for mentioning that on the air.
Quote from: CJ on February 23, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
Another limited production Ferrari, not any Ferrari. I bet they get a lot of shit for mentioning that on the air.
What are they going to do, not lend them one of their cars? Oh wait...
Quote from: CJ on February 23, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
Another limited production Ferrari, not any Ferrari. I bet they get a lot of shit for mentioning that on the air.
That's as good as saying "We don't want your business anymore". Only an idiot would buy another Ferrari after being banned from buying the one he really wants.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 23, 2015, 05:20:24 PM
Last night's episode was good. I can't believe how scared Ferrari is to have their car tested that they will bar any current owner from buying another Ferrari if they lend theirs to Top Gear.
Both Ferrari and McLaren are being twits.
McLaren said they would do it as long as the cars were customer cars to avoid the factory from providing a ringer. That's a good idea considering Ferrari's reputation for doing just that. Besides, McLaren doesn't have any production P1's left and Top Gear would have to drive the final pre-production mule set up exactly like a production car.
They also said they wouldn't do it on the TG test track. I don't blame them for not wanting to use factory-provided cars.
Supposedly Mclaren tweeted saying they were actually ready for the track test. Now with Top Gears reputation for fibbing a bit, I'm not sure who's really telling the story truthfully at this point.
I liked the beginning of the pug segment, when they were talking about Peugeots history. The dumb shit at the end wasn't funny imo
Having seen a LaFerrari in person, it doesn't look like much. I thought I was looking at a hopped up 458 for a second there. That said, what a car
I really enjoyed this episode, the Ferrari bit was fantastic. I can see how it might not be as unique looking in person, though.
I enjoyed most of the Pug bit. Very over the top at the end, but still got chuckles out of me.
Peugeots were nice cars: long-lived & reliable. My Dad had a 505 sedan & my uncle a 504 Estate as (great family hauler in the pre-minivan era). When I lived in France the family I was with had a fuel-injected 504TI. It was fast - to me anyway.
Now Peugeot is a bit of a joke. The point needed to be made, gentle public ridicule helps, but I thought the segment was over-long & it grew tedious.
I like the stereotypical Peugeot driver.
This weeks episode is the one shot not too far from where I live here in BC.
Just hosted a Top Gear night to watch tonight's episode since it was filmed not to far from here. The highway they traveled from Vancouver to Trail (they didn't mention the town by name) is one I travel quite often, a highway sign said "Merritt" which is where I was born and raised, and the Canadian Tire they were in is one I have shopped at many times. Other than that the show was actually quite funny and we laughed a lot. Really good episode.
Poor Hammond is doing all of the dangerous things this season while Clarkson and May live in luxury.
Gillian Anderson.. Thumbs way up!!!
Yeah, Gillian Anderson is still hot as hell.
+10
I thought it was fitting the Chevy got babied by May and still broke down... Poor GM
Had absolutely no idea that Gillian Anderson was British.... Mind = Blown...
..would still probe....
Quote from: r0tor on March 03, 2015, 06:15:18 AM
I thought it was fitting the Chevy got babied by May and still broke down... Poor GM
Says a lot about the Raptor that it still made it to the top with just 3 tires.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 03, 2015, 08:48:03 AM
Says a lot about the Raptor that it still made it to the top with just 3 tires.
And Jeremy driving...
Quote from: r0tor on March 03, 2015, 06:15:18 AM
I thought it was fitting the Chevy got babied by May and still broke down... Poor GM
I'm started to think you get some sort of sexual pleasure from any sort of problem on a GM vehicle, doesn't even matter if it's a manufacturer problem or user error.
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 03, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
I'm started to think you get some sort of sexual pleasure from any sort of problem on a GM vehicle, doesn't even matter if it's a manufacturer problem or user error.
Even my wife said, "Ha! That figures", when James said what happened to the Chevy.
Other than Clarkson jumping the Raptor, James' route actually looked a little tougher (more big obstacles). Towards the beginning I thought James was going to destroy the front end of the Chevy.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 03, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Even my wife said, "Ha! That figures", when James said what happened to the Chevy.
Same with my wife
Richard drives the new Miata
I loved the ending segment with James and Tanner. Maybe TG America can benefit from seeing the Brits in person.
So Jeremy has been suspended
Boooo
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 03, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
I'm started to think you get some sort of sexual pleasure from any sort of problem on a GM vehicle, doesn't even matter if it's a manufacturer problem or user error.
I can't speak for Rotor, but I know I do. :lol:
Quote from: HotRodPilot on March 10, 2015, 11:38:33 AM
So Jeremy has been suspended
Apparently so.
Jeremy Clarkson Suspended from 'Top Gear'
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By Jeff Perez
59 minutes ago
Bad news Top Gear fans, it looks like everyone's favorite auto show is on the fringe. Reports are coming in that Jeremy Clarkson had a "fracas" with producers, leading to the hosts suspension, and the cancellation of the show's airing this Sunday.
According to The Independent, Jeremy Clarkson was already on his final warning with producers regarding racist allegations earlier in the season, and this final "fracas" ultimately led to his suspension. Here is the official statement from the BBC:
"Following a fracas with a BBC producer Jeremy Clarkson has been suspended pending an investigation. No one else has been suspended. Top Gear will not be broadcast this Sunday. The BBC will be making no further comment at this time."
No other information has come from the BBC or Clarkson, but the future of the show could be in serious doubt.
And from the BBC. Regaring some of the incidents, doesn't the BBC edit these shows? I mean they are not broadcast live, someone goes through and edits the footage and related sound recordings.
Jeremy Clarkson, Top Gear host, suspended by BBC after 'fracas'Jeremy Clarkson Jeremy Clarkson has hosted Top Gear since 2002
Clarkson: BBC gave me final warning
Top Gear: A vehicle for controversy?
Top Gear host Jeremy Clarkson has been suspended by the BBC "following a fracas" with a producer.
The corporation said the 54-year-old presenter had been suspended "pending an investigation".
"No one else has been suspended. Top Gear will not be broadcast this Sunday," it said.
Clarkson was given what he called his "final warning" last May after claims he used a racist word while filming the popular BBC motoring show.
At the time, he said the BBC had told him he would be sacked if he made "one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time".
The BBC gave no further details on the current incident involving Clarkson, and said it would not be making any further statements at this time.
Clarkson's representatives have yet to reply to requests for a comment.
The presenter himself has remained silent, however last month he tweeted a post saying a "new presenter for Top Gear" was wanted.
"Applicant should be old, badly dressed and pedantic but capable of getting to work on time," he said.
This weekend's episode of Top Gear was set to feature Clarkson - who has fronted the show since 2002 - along with regular co-hosts Richard Hammond and James May at a classic track day.
Former footballer and pundit Gary Lineker was also to appear as the "star in a reasonably priced car".
Lineker has now tweeted, writing: "I don't think I'm ever meant to appear on Top Gear!"
'Strong character'
Former Top Gear presenter Chris Goffey told BBC Radio 5 live while discussions on the programme sometimes became heated when he worked on the show, "it must have been something fairly serious behind the scenes to warrant his immediate suspension.
"I can't think what the hell's gone on, but there you go. When you've got a very strong character who likes things his own way, if somebody stands up to him, there's going to be a row."
Clarkson has courted controversy on several occasions during his time hosting Top Gear.
Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond in the Top Gear Burma special Top Gear was censured by Ofcom for using a "racial" term in its Burma special programme
The show's executive producer, Andy Wilman, described last year as "an annus horribilis" for the programme.
It followed an incident in Argentina where the presenters and crew were forced to flee the country after trouble erupted over a number plate reading H982 FLK - which some suggested referred to the Falklands conflict of 1982.
Last year the show was also censured by Ofcom for breaching broadcasting rules after Clarkson used a derogatory word for Asian people during its Burma special programme.
TV critic Toby Earle told the BBC he was not surprised a Clarkson's suspension. "This incident is the one that's really forced management to take action," he said.
"Part of the show's appeal, to many viewers, has been it's sort of edginess and the fact that it's rough around the edges - in some ways takes no prisoners.
"But of course there is a very delicate line to tread with that, and it has crossed that line I feel."
With Clarkson at its head, Top Gear has been no stranger to controversy.
October 2014 - The show's stars and crew had to abandon filming in Argentina amid angry protests over a car number plate that appears to refer to the Falklands War.
July 2014 - Ofcom ruled that a Burma Special in which Jeremy Clarkson used a racial slur broke broadcasting rules. Clarkson had used the word "slope" as an Asian man crossed a newly built bridge over the River Kwai in Thailand.
May 2014 - The programme drew complaints when video footage leaked to the Daily Mirror appeared to show Jeremy Clarkson using a racist term while reciting the nursery rhyme Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe. The presenter later apologised for the incident - which was never broadcast - in a video statement where he "begged forgiveness".
October 2012 - The BBC Trust ruled that comments by Clarkson which likened the design of a camper van to people with facial disfigurements breached disability guidelines.
January 2012 - Indian diplomats complained about a 90-minute India special in which a car fitted with a toilet in its boot is described by Clarkson as "perfect for India because everyone who comes here gets the trots."
February 2011 - The BBC apologised to Mexico after Clarkson and his co-hosts characterised Mexicans as "lazy" and "feckless".
And:
Top Gaffes: How Clarkson Fuelled Controversy
Sky NewsSky News – 48 minutes ago..
Top Gaffes: How Clarkson Fuelled Controversy
As the BBC suspends Jeremy Clarkson over a "fracas" with a producer, Sky News looks at past controversies on his show.
:: Falklands number plate row (series 22, October 2014)
A two-part South America special sparked controversy in Argentina over a car number plate - H982 FKL - alleged to refer to the 1982 Falklands War.
Top Gear's crew were chased out of Argentina by veterans and the episode drew complaints from Argentina's ambassador to the UK, Alicia Castro.
But the team behind the show insisted the number plate was just a coincidence.
:: "Slope" remark during Burma special (series 21, March 2014)
Clarkson was accused of using "casual racism" during a Top Gear special, during which he and his co-presenters built a bridge over a Burmese river.
As a man walked across the bridge, Clarkson said: "That's a proud moment but there's a slope on it."
A BBC spokesman said the show was not aware the word "slope" was considered by some to be offensive and insisted it was used to make a "light-hearted wordplay joke".
Ofcom ruled that the programme breached broadcasting rules.
:: "N-word" edited out of Top Gear broadcast (series 19, February 2013)
Clarkson was accused by the Daily Mirror of using the "n-word" while filming an episode of the motoring show.
According to the paper, Clarkson "can be heard chanting, 'Eeny, meeny, miny moe...', before mumbling 'Catch a n****r by his toe'."
Clarkson responded by saying he was "horrified" by the allegations .
The BBC launched an investigation into the episode, which was broadcast without the alleged comment.
:: Fallout from the top over India special (series 17, December 2011)
An Indian special, during which Clarkson built a toilet into the back of a Jaguar, claiming it would be "perfect" for tourists because "everyone" who visits the country suffers diarrhoea, sparked a complaint from the Indian High Commission.
It accused the show of "cheap jibes" and "tasteless humour", adding that it "lacked cultural sensitivity".
A BBC spokesman said it had not insulted Indian people or the country's culture.
:: Albanian man's "murder" triggers complaints (series 16, February 2011)
Hundreds of people complained to the BBC after Top Gear aired a segment during which the presenters tried to squeeze an overweight Albanian man, who had ostensibly been murdered, into the boots of their cars.
The presenters pretended to have been sent to the country to test drive cars for a mafia boss.
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:: Top Gear slammed over "vulgar" Mexico claims (series 16, December 2010)
A special episode of the show upset Mexicans by describing them as "lazy, feckless and flatulent" and branding their food "refried sick".
It claimed the Mexican ambassador to the UK would not complain as he was likely to be asleep.
In response, ambassador Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza wrote to the BBC, describing the comments as "outrageous, vulgar and inexcusable".
Ofcom found the BBC had not breached guidelines but the broadcaster admitted the language used had "reinforced" stereotypes.
:: Lorry load of trouble over "prostitute" claim (series 12, November 2008)
The BBC received hundreds of complaints after Clarkson joked about lorry drivers murdering prostitutes.
"Change gear, change gear, check mirror, murder a prostitute, change gear, change gear, murder," he said. "That's a lot of effort in a day."
One MP called for Clarkson to be sacked but the BBC defended its presenter, saying viewers have "clear expectations" of his on-screen persona and humour.
:: Botswana special leaves trail of controversy (series 10, November 2007)
Environmental campaigners claimed Top Gear had damaged Botswana's Makgadikgadi salt pan by blasting through it during a 2007 special.
They claimed tracks left by the team's vehicles would remain visible for decades.
However, the BBC said it was careful to avoid sensitive conservation zones.
:: Dead cow "humour" angers viewers (series nine, February 2007)
During a one-off US special, Clarkson tied a dead cow to the roof of a Chevy Comaro before reversing the car and flinging the animal to the ground.
The stunt sparked complaints to both the BBC and Ofcom, but the broadcaster insisted it was "very typical" of the show's "irreverent humour".
A spokesman added: "No offence was intended."
:: Mock Nazi salute sparks anger (series seven, November 2005)
Clarkson did little to strengthen Anglo-German relations when he made a mock Nazi salute during a segment discussing a new Mini.
He also claimed the car's in-built navigation system "only goes to Poland".
German diplomats sternly pointed out that, had his salute been on German TV, he would have faced criminal charges and even a possible six-month prison term.
The BBC said it would be dealt with under its "rigorous" complaints procedure.
:: Crash test damages villagers' tree (series three, November 2003)
The BBC was forced to hand over £250 to a parish council in Somerset after Clarkson damaged a horse chestnut tree while testing the strength of a Toyota Hilux.
Local people thought the damage had been caused by vandals until later recognising the tree on TV.
The show "unreservedly apologised".
The three of them should just do the show on their own and sell it to Netflix. Then they won't have to worry about any complaints.
Genius ^
This season has been so good, too.
Yeah, all but the St. Petersburg episode have been great.
Apparently Clarkson threw a punch at a producer.
Maybe Tanner's appearance last episode was his trial run for replacing Clarkson.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 10, 2015, 12:52:22 PM
The three of them should just do the show on their own and sell it to Netflix. Then they won't have to worry about any complaints.
Agreed... Most of those claims are beyond ridiculous
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 10, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
Apparently Clarkson threw a punch at a producer.
Maybe Tanner's appearance last episode was his trial run for replacing Clarkson.
He probably deserved it... the producer, I mean.
From what I gather, Top Gear is canceled indefinitely.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 10, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
From what I gather, Top Gear is canceled indefinitely.
Torches and pitchforks on standby.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 10, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
From what I gather, Top Gear is canceled indefinitely.
What
Yeah. Unless they come to an agreement of some kind, the remaining 3 episodes will not be shown.
If I was running Netflix, I would already be talking to the boys about doing the show there. Obviously titled something other than Top Gear, but the same format, same producers, directors, writers, and camera crew.
I just read that BBC has stated that at least the next two episodes and possibly the final episode of the season will not be broadcast. This is bullshit. Air them, just don't have Jeremy hosting the live portions. Let the final 3 episodes air, let the boys break their contracts and sell the rights to the show to Netflix.
If the people commenting on Jalopnik are correct, the three presenters already sold their stakes in the show in 2012. Plus, I bet BBC has some sort of non-compete already signed so they can't just jump ship and start doing the same show elsewhere.
https://www.change.org/p/bbc-reinstate-jeremy-clarkson (https://www.change.org/p/bbc-reinstate-jeremy-clarkson)
Quote from: SVT666 on March 10, 2015, 07:37:13 PM
Yeah. Unless they come to an agreement of some kind, the remaining 3 episodes will not be shown.
If I was running Netflix, I would already be talking to the boys about doing the show there. Obviously titled something other than Top Gear, but the same format, same producers, directors, writers, and camera crew.
Never happen. The entire crew are employees of the BBC. They aren't going to jump ship and risk their future employment to do something like that.
I can't believe the outrage here. mad at the BBC, they ought to be mad at that ass Clarkson for causing this problem.
Quote from: CLKid on March 11, 2015, 07:51:40 AM
Never happen. The entire crew are employees of the BBC. They aren't going to jump ship and risk their future employment to do something like that.
I can't believe the outrage here. mad at the BBC, they ought to be made at that ass Clarkson for causing this problem.
Clarkson and the Producer.
I call shenanigans... Probably McLaren or ferrari are behind this after an "agreement" was made to race the holy trinity.
Quote from: r0tor on March 11, 2015, 09:16:21 AM
I call shenanigans... Probably McLaren or ferrari are behind this after an "agreement" was made to race the holy trinity.
I've kind of been wondering the same thing... He doesn't seem like he'd resort to punching. Verbal abuse, sure.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31832698 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31832698)
He punched Piers Morgan in the face a few years ago.
This fight was over the fact there would be no hot food being served after filming. Clarkson is an idiot, but I want to see them take the show somewhere else anyway.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 11, 2015, 09:54:02 AM
He punched Piers Morgan in the face a few years ago.
Who wouldn't?
:lol:
Punching someone over catering is pretty stupid.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 11, 2015, 09:55:40 AM
This fight was over the fact there would be no hot food being served after filming. Clarkson is an idiot, but I want to see them take the show somewhere else anyway.
So "Prima Donna" is now spelled C-L-A-R-K-S-O-N.
Hot food may even be in his contract but it certainly isn't worth a physical dust up.
People who were actually there are saying there were no punches thrown, just pushing.
#FracasGate
From the one of the most awesome UK tabloids, so compelling that it has cult status:
'I'm off to the Job Centre', jokes Jeremy Clarkson as sources say he may QUIT the BBC - even if they clear him of food fight fracas - as 400,000 join fight to keep him on Top Gear
Clarkson suspended by BBC after allegedly throwing a punch at producer
54-year-old allegedly 'smacked' Oisin Tymon, 36, over lack of food on set
Presenter said today he was 'just off to the Job Centre' as he left his home
James May admits his friend was involved in a 'bit of a dust up' over dinner
BBC spokesman confirmed no one else has been suspended over incident
'Bring Back Clarkson' petition already has 400,000-plus online signatures
Top Gear episode will not air on Sunday and doubt over showing two more
Clarkson put on 'final warning' in 2014 after racism row over nursery rhyme
ITV may be preparing £10million bid to lure presenter away from the BBC
Chris Evans favourite to replace Clarkson if he is sacked over 'punch-up'
Did you see it? Contact 02036151866 or emma.glanfield@mailonline.co.uk
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988412/Top-Gear-s-Jeremy-Clarkson-suspended-BBC-fracas-producer.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988412/Top-Gear-s-Jeremy-Clarkson-suspended-BBC-fracas-producer.html)
The BBC has reportedly decided to cancel the rest of the current Top Gear season due to a recent scuffle between host Jeremy Clarkson and a producer.
Previous reports suggested the final three episodes in the show's 22nd season, however BBC News now claims the network has finalized its decision to not air the episode related to Clarkson's alleged confrontation and the remaining two scheduled segments.
One source claims Clarkson attempted to punch producer Oisin Tymon in a dispute over hot meals following a day of filming, but details surrounding the incident have not been officially detailed or confirmed by BBC.
The fiasco has infuriated many fans, leading to a "Bring Back Clarkson" petition at Change.org. The campaign has been signed by more than 770,000 supporters.
Despite the truncation of the current season, Top Gear is one of the BBC's most popular shows and is not expected to be completely cancelled, even if the dispute leads to Clarkson's resignation or ouster.
I think they stage these things every few years. Clarkson isn't that much of an idiot hothead, and neither is the BBC.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10385283_10153022748408463_4115021471609229976_n.jpg?oh=46c432a7c3435ff0085d3362e0ca163b&oe=5572E6F5&__gda__=1438007200_17065a0a4a4579ce5225e3f0d9f95943)
:lol:
LOL
@jeremydarkson
(http://i.imgur.com/j64Mse8.jpg)
"Probably" :lol:
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QuoteAnother source said that Clarkson called Tymon, 36, a "lazy Irish c***" before splitting his lip with a punch that left him with blood running down his face.
Tymon is understood to have received treatment at the A&E department at Friarage Hospital, in Northallerton, and is said to have also suffered dizziness.
More... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11472112/Jeremy-Clarkson-punched-producer-and-called-him-lazy-Irish.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/11472112/Jeremy-Clarkson-punched-producer-and-called-him-lazy-Irish.html)
Not good.
As much as I love Top Gear and hate "politically correct" speech which has hamstrung most intelligent discussion on television, Jeremy's clearly in the wrong here. Being drunk isn't a great excuse either. He thinks he's too big for his britches and that sort of stuff shouldn't fly.
It's hard to predict whether the show will survive without his persona. They find the right guy, and it'll be different but still could be great.
Quote from: veeman on March 14, 2015, 09:20:22 PM
As much as I love Top Gear and hate "politically correct" speech which has hamstrung most intelligent discussion on television, Jeremy's clearly in the wrong here. Being drunk isn't a great excuse either. He thinks he's too big for his britches and that sort of stuff shouldn't fly.
It's hard to predict whether the show will survive without his persona. They find the right guy, and it'll be different but still could be great.
Yeah, the more that comes out about this incident, the more I think Clarkson should be fired.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 14, 2015, 10:47:37 PM
Yeah, the more that comes out about this incident, the more I think Clarkson should be fired.
Fuck that. Clarkson
is Top Gear.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 14, 2015, 10:47:37 PM
Yeah, the more that comes out about this incident, the more I think Clarkson should be fired.
Yeah, BBC's actions seem pretty reasonable with the current info on the incident.
I voted Steve Coogan to replace Jezza.
It's official. Jeremy Clarkson quit, and BBC has cancelled Top Gear for good.
Good, we need more car shows like Alex on Autos. Top Gear is to cars what Mythbusters has become to science ("hey lets find a reason to blow some shit up!")
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
It's official. Jeremy Clarkson quit, and BBC has cancelled Top Gear for good.
Link?
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
It's official. Jeremy Clarkson quit, and BBC has cancelled Top Gear for good.
Got a cite for that?
http://m.autoevolution.com/jeremy-clarkson-quits-top-gear-show-cancelled-for-good-93287.html
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2015, 08:25:56 AM
Good, we need more car shows like Alex on Autos. Top Gear is to cars what Mythbusters has become to science ("hey lets find a reason to blow some shit up!")
:rolleyes:
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 15, 2015, 08:25:56 AM
Good, we need more car shows like Alex on Autos. Top Gear is to cars what Mythbusters has become to science ("hey lets find a reason to blow some shit up!")
Alex on Autos is good, but both kinds of shows have their place. Not everyone's always in the mood to find out how an infotainment system works or how child seats fit in the back seat.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 08:52:28 AM
http://m.autoevolution.com/jeremy-clarkson-quits-top-gear-show-cancelled-for-good-93287.html (http://m.autoevolution.com/jeremy-clarkson-quits-top-gear-show-cancelled-for-good-93287.html)
Road and track, 14 hours ago (as of this writing), thinks that conclusion is a bit premature. And I can't find anything where May says the BBC has killed off Top Gear forever.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/entertainment/news/a25278/no-jeremy-clarkson-hasnt-quit-top-gear-yet/ (http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/entertainment/news/a25278/no-jeremy-clarkson-hasnt-quit-top-gear-yet/)
No, Jeremy Clarkson hasn't quit Top Gear yet
Any reports that he has are a stretch. More importantly, it doesn't matter.
By Alex Nunez
So, there's a story out there that definitively states Jeremy Clarkson has quit Top Gear, and that it's over.
He hasn't and it's not. At least not yet.
The conclusion is based on allusions Clarkson made in his weekly Sun column.
You can sign up to read The Sun column yourselves (first month's free, so you can read and quit before you get charged) or you can Google and probably find it reprinted on any of eleventy-four trillion forums.
Whatever, the part that has everyone saying it's all over is this analogy Clarkson draws to the way people try to mobilize to save endangered species—a nod to the petitions started in support of him:
The fact is that you can start as many campaigns as you like and call on the support of politicians from all sides, but the day must come when you have to wave goodbye to the big monsters and move on.
He goes on to confirm his suspension and says he won't discuss what happened then or speculate on what's to come because he's fed up with it all and the rest of humanity likely is, too.
Anyway, back to the bullshit drama that is, "OMG! CLARKSON REALLY QUIT!"
First, he didn't. He colorfully alludes to perhaps doing so. But there's no announcement here.
Second, it doesn't matter. You know why? Because whether or not the three remaining "postponed" episodes of Top Gear ever air, Clarkson's contract—along with May's and Hammond's—is up at the end of the season anyway.
So, whether Clarkson quits now, or the BBC opts not to renew him, it's the same difference. And really, penning a career eulogy for Clarkson now is just about the stupidest thing ever.
Because if you think that, say, a Rupert Murdoch won't basically offer him (and Hammond and May) roughly the GDP of Lichtenstein to take their petrolhead party over to a rival net like Sky, you are not paying attention.
Jeremy Clarkson, contrary to what all the hysteria would suggest, has everyone right where he wants them. If he quits now? He's a free agent. If, following its Official Fracas Inquiry, the Beeb doesn't re-sign him—bingo! He's still a free agent.
He is a valuable asset with a massive, baked-in audience.
The BBC, for all its talk the last several months, will machine-gun itself in the foot if it doesn't swallow hard and re-sign Clarkson, and May, and Hammond.
Top Gear is a cash cow. Top Gear without them, and Clarkson especially, would NOT be Top Gear. It'd be the equivalent of Top Gear Poland or Top Gear America, only with British accents—a pretender that wears the uniform but fools exactly no one. That includes advertisers.
And no, if Clarkson bounces to another network to start another car show—with or without his current co-presenters—it wouldn't be Top Gear, either. But in that case, it's just semantics, because the BBC controls that brand. It would be the show that everyone tuned into.
Is Jeremy Clarkson a dick? Maybe. Probably. It doesn't matter.
Jeremy Clarkson has already won.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 08:52:28 AM
http://m.autoevolution.com/jeremy-clarkson-quits-top-gear-show-cancelled-for-good-93287.html (http://m.autoevolution.com/jeremy-clarkson-quits-top-gear-show-cancelled-for-good-93287.html)
That doesn't have anything official. :huh:
I'm assuming Clarkson is done, but I think the BBC has said they'd just find someone to replace him.
Quote from: hotrodalex on March 15, 2015, 09:23:07 AM
That doesn't have anything official. :huh:
I'm assuming Clarkson is done, but I think the BBC has said they'd just find someone to replace him.
To quote Yogi Berra "It ain't over 'til it's over".
Facts:
TG is a huge cash cow for the BBC.
The three presenters contracts end at the end of the month.
Other networks would pay handsomely for the services of Clarkson, May and Hammond.
My speculation:
All three move to another channel, get gobs of money, BBC recasts TG and it folds after a max of two seasons.
Or,
BBC slaps Clarkson hard on both wrists, he makes a humble public apology compensates the producer he struck, and TG goes on with three even more highly paid presenters named Clarkson, May and Hammond.
I think it's done, and it's Clarkson's fault. He's a diva. I've always defended him, but this time I can't defend him.
Not one of the three is replaceable. If one is gone, the show is done.
Pretty good article on the controversy. It just gets messier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html)
This drama is not entertaining
I just want to watch cars on TV
Wow.
As indefensible as much of Clarkson's actions are, BBC is in a real bind with this. I absolutely believe that May and Hammond will not renew their contracts with the BBC without Jeremy, and especially after what Cohen said in this article likening him to Jimmy Savile ( which was meant in referencing Savile's sex abuse claims. ) Now that the current Stig ( and Cohen likens him to an abuse victim ) has been outed, the show as it currently sits can't go on.
I'm not sure how they can kiss and make up after this. BBC stands to lose 10's of millions per year with this show not being broadcast with its current cast. However, I can see many other interested parties willing to take these three on and making another show. There's simply too huge an audience out there that will watch.
Quote from: CLKid on March 15, 2015, 09:45:42 AM
Pretty good article on the controversy. It just gets messier.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2995106/Astonishing-remarks-Gear-affair-senior-BBC-boss-claims-Clarkson-like-Savile.html)
There's a lot to this. Seems like upper management in the BBC has it out for Clarkson, and has for awhile.
Quote from: Rockraven on March 15, 2015, 10:16:51 AM
There's a lot to this. Seems like upper management in the BBC has it out for Clarkson, and has for awhile.
I don't think this is true. I think Clarkson is his own worst enemy. The BBC has stood by him through a lot. Obviously the BBC big wig wasn't comparing Clarkson to a sex criminal, he was comparing the blind support Clarkson is getting to the blind support Saville received. It was an ill advised comparison, but it's being blown out of proportion.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 10:22:28 AM
I don't think this is true. I think Clarkson is his own worst enemy. The BBC has stood by him through a lot. Obviously the BBC big wig wasn't comparing Clarkson to a sex criminal, he was comparing the blind support Clarkson is getting to the blind support Saville received. It was an ill advised comparison, but it's being blown out of proportion.
Dunno man, lots to consider. I think the BBC has been under pressure from groups to sack Clarkson for a long time, but TG is too valuable to mess with. This incident gave management the justification they needed, and they're smearing Jezza to bolster their position.
At this point there's simply too much speculation and false info. Just gonna have to sit and watch it play out.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 15, 2015, 10:22:28 AM
I don't think this is true. I think Clarkson is his own worst enemy. The BBC has stood by him through a lot. Obviously the BBC big wig wasn't comparing Clarkson to a sex criminal, he was comparing the blind support Clarkson is getting to the blind support Saville received. It was an ill advised comparison, but it's being blown out of proportion.
A guy heading the BBC should be adept enough to know that sideways conclusions could easily drawn by other media and supporters about the Jimmy Savile comparison. I think he knowingly made the conclusion anyway. If he wants to draw the conclusion that Clarkson's fans support are blind, one could say that Clarkson has cult status amongst fans and leave it at that. This comparison was just a smear. Cohen is inviting trouble upon himself now. He's going to lose the show, a pile of money, and now face scrutiny within the BBC, or worse.
Quote from: thecarnut on March 15, 2015, 09:07:09 AM
Alex on Autos is good, but both kinds of shows have their place. Not everyone's always in the mood to find out how an infotainment system works or how child seats fit in the back seat.
That's right. In no way is a show with the point of AoA a substitute for Top Gear. Come on, no one watched Top Gear for it's infallible objectivity.
If he truly slugged that guy while on the clock for the show, it's indefensible, and he must be fired. One can surely bet he is a whiny entitled arrogant bitch of a man in private life.
I think the BBC should fold the show. It's nothing without the chemistry of those three guys & the "bloke schtick" they've built up. Go out while at the top - don't make it die a slow humiliating multi-season death.
I really like the show - the high production values - use of music & landscapes, humor - just great entertainment.
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 15, 2015, 12:48:55 PM
I think the BBC should fold the show. It's nothing without the chemistry of those three guys & the "bloke schtick" they've built up. Go out while at the top - don't make it die a slow humiliating multi-season death.
I really like the show - the high production values - use of music & landscapes, humor - just great entertainment.
+ 1 billion
Despite the ongoing investigation of Top Gear front man Jeremy Clarkson, the final three episodes of the motoring program will be aired at some point, a new report claims.
Following the BBC's suspension of Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson last week for a "fracas" with a producer, it was thought that the broadcasting company would completely scrap the last three episodes of the show's 22nd season. However, a BBC insider has revealed that the last few episodes will in fact hit the airwaves.
According to the BBC source, Senior Producers are currently editing pre-filmed segments of the last three episodes. Moreover, the BBC plans to eventually air the episodes, regardless of the outcome of the investigation involving Clarkson.
"These aren't going to be the Nixon tapes," an insider told the UK's The Sunday Times, referring the final three episodes of the season.
One of the episodes in limbo includes a feature on budget classics convertibles. In that episode, Clarkson reportedly chooses a Fiat 124 Spider, while his co-presenters, James May and Richard Hammond, opt for a Peugeot 304 and an MGB, respectively.
Top Gear is also continuing its work toward a showdown between the McLaren P1, Porsche 918 Spyder and the Ferrari LaFerrari. However, if that three-way test ultimately happens, it will likely air as a bonus episode rather than part of the regular Top Gear season.
Although the immediate future of Top Gear looks a little brighter, the long-term prospects of the show are a little less clear. It's possible that Clarkson could be fired following the investigation, which could ultimately lead to the show's cancellation.
^ that's what happens when your ratings drop 4 million viewers and your market falls from 20% to under 5%
Let me start off by saying I find Clarkson's actions deplorable and agree he should be held responsible for any injury he has caused.
But, the fact remains, there is no Top Gear without Clarkson. The nightmare scenario for the BBC is Clarkson and Company decamp to a rival network and set up shop with a new show (let's call it High Gear, for lack of a better title) and the legions of fans follow in droves. Meanwhile, the BBC are sure to recruit three nobodys to fill the enormous shoes of their departed stars and the end result will look like a pale imitation of its former self. Top Gear withers and dies an ignominious death after two lacklustre seasons and High Gear goes from strength to strength.
Lest we forget, many cite Clarkson's departure from old Top Gear in 2000 as the primary reason for its demise the following year. The BBC really has no choice but to negotiate a settlement between Clarkson and his unfortunate victim who is sure to receive a colossal financial windfall for his trouble (and deservedly so, I might add). Naturally, Clarkson will have to issue a a very public mea culpa by way of doing the rounds of the UK chat shows, hat in hand, begging all and sundry for forgiveness. Like it or not, the BBC are backed into a corner and have no other choice.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Sky with an automotive show if Top Gear folds.
New report says Hamster and May refused to do the final shows without Clarkson... Good show mates :clap:
Quote from: r0tor on March 19, 2015, 04:42:53 PM
New report says Hamster and May refused to do the final shows without Clarkson... Good show mates :clap:
Yup, just read that. I think the BBC exec above Wilman to keep Clarkson in line is the BBC's and Clarkson's way to put this behind them and get on with business. BBC saves face by installing checks and balances, Clarkson - who has apologized to the BBC according to an earlier article, is effectively chastised and life goes on.
'Top Gear' Co-presenters Refuse to Continue Show Without Jeremy Clarkson
Leo Barraclough
March 19, 2015
'Top Gear' Co-presenters Refuse to Continue Show Without Jeremy Clarkson
LONDON — "Top Gear" presenters James May and Richard Hammond refused to shoot the show while their co-host Jeremy Clarkson was suspended.
The BBC wanted to press ahead with the final three episodes in the present season without Clarkson, while an investigation is carried out into allegations that he punched the show's producer Oisin Tymon, according to a BBC executive.
The episodes would have used several recorded segments with Clarkson, and another with May and Hammond in the studio, but negotiations stalled, the unnamed source told the Daily Mirror.
"They didn't want to do it without Jeremy so the talks didn't get off the ground. There is a feeling that it is all of them or none of them," the exec said.
The investigation into the altercation, which is believed to have been sparked by the failure of the producer to organize a steak dinner at the end of a day's filming, is being carried out by Ken MacQuarrie, head of BBC Scotland.
MacQuarrie will deliver his report next week to BBC director general Tony Hall, who will decide Clarkson's fate. Clarkson is already on a final warning after he used racist language while shooting the show.
The BBC's focus is also on the role of the show's exec producer Andy Wilman, who has been a close friend of Clarkson's since they went to the same private school together. According to one report, a BBC executive is going to be put above Wilman in order to keep Clarkson in check.
"I think that people do see a way to resolve this, and that is by putting someone strong in to manage the show and manage Clarkson. He is a brilliant broadcaster, everyone can see that," a senior BBC figure said
Quote from: Madman on March 18, 2015, 07:01:08 PM
Let me start off by saying I find Clarkson's actions deplorable and agree he should be held responsible for any injury he has caused.
But, the fact remains, there is no Top Gear without Clarkson. The nightmare scenario for the BBC is Clarkson and Company decamp to a rival network and set up shop with a new show (let's call it High Gear, for lack of a better title) and the legions of fans follow in droves. Meanwhile, the BBC are sure to recruit three nobodys to fill the enormous shoes of their departed stars and the end result will look like a pale imitation of its former self. Top Gear withers and dies an ignominious death after two lacklustre seasons and High Gear goes from strength to strength.
Lest we forget, many cite Clarkson's departure from old Top Gear in 2000 as the primary reason for its demise the following year. The BBC really has no choice but to negotiate a settlement between Clarkson and his unfortunate victim who is sure to receive a colossal financial windfall for his trouble (and deservedly so, I might add). Naturally, Clarkson will have to issue a a very public mea culpa by way of doing the rounds of the UK chat shows, hat in hand, begging all and sundry for forgiveness. Like it or not, the BBC are backed into a corner and have no other choice.
If it were America, he'd check into a celebrity rehab clinic. Then he'd seek mentoring from a prominent religious leader (in exchange for a monetary "donation.")
After that he'd do a round of public contrition on talk shows.
"Why did you do it Jeremy?"
"Well, first of all I'd like to say this is not so much about me as it is a commentary about our society and the pressures we are all under. I was tired after a long day of shooting the show and mistakes may have been made. But, let me be clear, I in no way meant to cause any offence to any groups or nationalities, some of my best friends are Irish c***s."
Quote from: Morris Minor on March 19, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
But, let me be clear, I in no way meant to cause any offence to any groups or nationalities, some of my best friends are Irish c***s."
:lol:
I've finally found a practical use for 3-D printing.
Hungry Hungry Clarksons!
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http://jalopnik.com/now-you-can-play-hungry-hungry-clarksons-1692483871 (http://jalopnik.com/now-you-can-play-hungry-hungry-clarksons-1692483871)
This morning they delivered the 1,000,000 signature petition to the BBC office... IN A TANK. :clap:
http://jalopnik.com/jeremy-clarkson-supporters-just-drove-a-freaking-tank-t-1692575093 (http://jalopnik.com/jeremy-clarkson-supporters-just-drove-a-freaking-tank-t-1692575093)
Lol... Just saw Jeremy raised 100,000 pounds in a charity event to do one last trip around the Top Gear track after repeatedly calling BBC execs "fucking bastards".
Your move BBC fucking bastards :popcorn:
Despite the indefensible act, a male celebrity punching another adult male without seriously physically injuring him isn't going to draw much of an emotional ruckus. Particularly if the aggressor is an old out of shape guy. The entire situation is laughable. No one feels sorry for the guy who got punched either because he just got job security for a good long while even if he wasn't good at his job. He might even get promoted because of it and end up with more cash.
If Clarkson had hit/slapped/pushed a woman, their would be pitchforks after him (deservedly).
Dude that got punched just wanted to get back to work, apparently. Don't blame him, it's gotta be an awesome job the other 99.9% of the time when you're not being punched in the face.
Of course he wants to get back to work. I bet he's just as worried as the fans are about the future of the show.
Who could replace Clarkson?
by Stuart Heritage
The Guardian
It doesn't matter how the BBC responds to the Jeremy Clarkson investigation this week, because almost every possible outcome now represents a different kind of loss. If it doesn't sack him, it loses – not only will the corporation face accusations of turning a blind eye to workplace violence, but it will also concede defeat to that twonk in the knitted helmet who protested Clarkson's suspension by riding his tank around London last week. It would be unthinkable. But if it does sack him, and does away with Top Gear altogether, the BBC loses one of its biggest cash cows. In addition: the wave of weird-looking middle-aged men historically contained within the safe confines of its studio audience would be set loose on the public, which would be similarly unthinkable.
So perhaps the best option is to simply replace Clarkson but continue the show. It'd certainly be a risky move – Clarkson's personality runs through Top Gear's veins like low-density lipoproteins run through his own veins – but at this stage it represents the corporation's most damage-limiting form of damage limitation. So who should replace Clarkson?
First, and most importantly, it absolutely shouldn't be anyone who's ever had anything to do with the original incarnation of Top Gear. That version of the show died a horrible death 14 years ago because it was extremely tedious. It was smug, it was slow. It was Gardener's World on wheels. Imagine someone like Quentin Wilson emerging as Clarkson's replacement. Imagine him interminably kicking the wheels of a second-hand Mondeo while he explains the finer details of statutory consumer rights in an intonation that sounds like the wind changed when he was struggling to master sarcasm as a child. You'd kick your television over rather than watch that, surely.
Similarly, nobody from the revamped Top Gear should be promoted from within – even if they would agree to it. If anyone wants to recast the show as a Richard-Hammond-James-May double-act, they should leave immediately. It'd be like the time Charlie Murphy and Donnell Rawlings hamfistedly attempted to host Chappelle's Show after Dave Chappelle went awol. It wouldn't be good.
So who's left? Chris Evans has been repeatedly touted as the next Top Gear host – and he wouldn't necessarily be a terrible fit – except he has denied all interest in the job. Piers Morgan has also been mentioned; although, unless his appointment came with an announcement that the show would mainly be about Piers Morgan falling down things and banging his head on stuff, it wouldn't really be worth watching.
People have mentioned Rowan Atkinson, Stephen Fry and Alan Partridge as potential hosts, perhaps forgetting that they're respectively too nerdy, too wordy and too fictional to connect with Top Gear's established audience. Other people have mentioned Katie Hopkins, but possibly just because they hate life.
Bookies have been naming Jodie Kidd as a possible replacement. This makes some degree of sense. Not only is Kidd a car nut, having presented a Channel 5 car show and completed a staggeringly fast lap around the Top Gear track, but she's also tall enough to fit into whatever godawful pairs of bootcut stonewash Wranglers Clarkson left in his dressing room.
Kidd wouldn't be a bad replacement for Clarkson – but realistically the BBC has only one choice that would tick all the boxes. That choice is German racing driver Sabine Schmitz.
Schmitz knows a lot about cars, and possibly even rivals The Stig in terms of ability. She has appeared from time to time on Top Gear in the past, and shown herself to possess exactly the right mix of knowledge and boisterousness for the job every time. Plus, she is both German and a woman, a combination of traits so alien to the majority of Top Gear viewers that the whole show would probably self-destruct within an hour of her taking the job. And surely, at this point, that would, as they say, be the best outcome for everyone involved.
None of those are good choices.
Nobody really is
To say Sabine would be the perfect replacement is ridiculous. Though her English may be good for a German, she likely wouldn't get the slang or the humour. Her biggest downside is she is a woman and this show is a guy's show. It's a show about men acting like boys. Bring a woman into the mix and the entire dynamic will be upset and it will have no chance of being anything remotely like the Top Gear we know and love. You at least have a shot at that if you bring another guy into the mix.
For those not familiar with Jodie Kidd, here she is (with Quentin Willson) on Channel 5's Classic Car Show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZVXUxk764 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goZVXUxk764)
A Clarksonesque ending to this would be for the producer to come out and apologize to Clarkson for running his face into Clarkson's fist. All the fans are happy, the producer gets a raise, promotion, and additional money, BBC is happy, perfect ending. Capitalism wins
The Top Gear staff narrowly avoided a second food-related disaster the morning after the "Fracas".
The hotel had planned to shut off the electricity the following morning to preform some routine maintenance. However, this meant a late-rising Clarkson would have had to endure the indignity of cold cereal for breakfast instead of his (presumably) traditional Full English with kippers and whatever else His Highness usually demands. Fearing the potential wrath of a food-deprived Clarkson, BBC staff begged the hotel to leave the electricity on until His Nibs had finished stuffing his face.
One thing is for sure. NOBODY gets between Clarkson and a hot meal!!!
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/565123/Jeremy-Clarkson-Top-Gear-Oisin-Tymon-BBC-Two-fracas-steak-cereal-hotel (http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/565123/Jeremy-Clarkson-Top-Gear-Oisin-Tymon-BBC-Two-fracas-steak-cereal-hotel)
Its official. Clarkson has been sacked. Not surprising, really.
http://jalopnik.com/jeremy-clarkson-officially-fired-from-top-gear-1693551101 (http://jalopnik.com/jeremy-clarkson-officially-fired-from-top-gear-1693551101)
I think the BBC made the right call. Workplace violence like that cannot be tolerated. It is just sad however and Clarkson will be missed. Let´s see where he turns up. I am not sure Top Gear as such is definitely dead. We´ll see.
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Officially fuck the BBC
Air the remaining episodes of the season with the Stig just sitting in Clarkson's spot... Play off that accordingly.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 25, 2015, 09:11:27 AM
Air the remaining episodes of the season with the Stig just sitting in Clarkson's spot... Play off that accordingly.
LOL yes
I hope the BBC just folds up now
Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
I hope the BBC just folds up now
They won't. In 1989, the BBC cancelled another one of their cash cows, Doctor Who. Like Top Gear, critics complained the show wasn't as good as it used to be and yet it remained a big earner for the BBC, with huge overseas sales. After a failed attempt at a re-launch in 1996, Doctor Who finally returned to the airwaves in 2005. The BBC's accounting and overseas sales departments couldn't have been happier. But how much money was left on the table during those 16 years the network had no show to sell?
But what does the BBC now do with Top Gear? Does it continue with its current zany Clarksonesque formula, only without Clarkson? Or does it revert to being the serious, consumer-oriented (and frequently boring) car review show it was in the '80s and '90s? Either way, I think the BBC will have to let Top Gear lie dormant for a while.
My advice to the BBC......Let the dust settle, relaunch after an appropriate amount of time with a new cast and crew and cross your fingers and hope it works.
He deserved it. He physically assaulted a producer. The show will die now, but it is 100% Clarkson's fault. The other two have said they won't do the show without him, so I can't see them re-signing by next Tuesday. I hope the boys develop a show on their own and team up with Netflix where they can say and do whatever they want. They could call it, "A Dick and Two Nuts".
A shame, but he deserved it. Sucks though, I've been watching Top Gear for a huge portion of my life.
Quote from: SVT666 on March 25, 2015, 09:46:52 AM
They could call it, "A Dick and Two Nuts".
:ohyeah:
They could have sent him to anger management programs and such, suspended him for a lit le while, did some community service, and got on with life... This happens all the time in the real world.
Sad but not surprising. BBC while doing the right thing, is going to feel this in the pocketbook for a while. If Top Gear is kept on, it's likely without Hammond and May too. Ratings will take a major hit for a while.
I admire the loyalty of James May who's been rather outspoken about not doing the show without JC. So perhaps we'll see them on another network. Hopefully with an equally large budget and silly ideas for car reviews.
The BBC News site:
Jeremy Clarkson dropped from Top Gear, BBC confirms
Jeremy Clarkson's contract will not be renewed after an "unprovoked physical attack" on a Top Gear producer, the BBC's director general has confirmed.
Tony Hall said he had "not taken this decision lightly" and recognised it would "divide opinion".
However, he added "a line has been crossed" and he "cannot condone what has happened on this occasion".
Clarkson was suspended on 10 March, following what was called a "fracas" with Top Gear producer Oisin Tymon.
The row, which took place in a Yorkshire hotel, was said to have occurred because no hot food was provided following a day's filming.
More: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32052736 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32052736)
As much as we all enjoyed Clarkson's on-screen antics, it was his off-screen antics which caused his downfall.
There aren't very many companies who will let you keep your job after assaulting another employee at work.
Yep, the BBC had no choice but to fire him.
He should have just molested children for a few decades and they never would have bothered him. But no, he had to go out and punch a man. There is no way they can ignore that.
Quote from: FlatBlackCaddy on March 25, 2015, 11:01:57 AM
He should have just molested children for a few decades and they never would have bothered him. But no, he had to go out and punch a man. There is no way they can ignore that.
Well, it would've came out after his death, but nobody would care by then since he's dead and no more top gear...
Quote from: NomisR on March 25, 2015, 11:42:33 AM
Well, it would've came out after his death, but nobody would care by then since he's dead and no more top gear...
I'm sure there are plenty of live ones they know about that are just being swept under the rug.
Quote from: r0tor on March 25, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
They could have sent him to anger management programs and such, suspended him for a lit le while, did some community service, and got on with life... This happens all the time in the real world.
lol, no. You don't get to punch a coworker and keep your job.
Quote from: GoCougs on March 25, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
lol, no. You don't get to punch a coworker and keep your job.
But molesting kids is ok..
Who molested kids?
Quote from: SVT666 on March 25, 2015, 12:44:31 PM
Who molested kids?
https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+savile&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=jimmy+savile&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
It was known and covered up by pretty much everyone at the time.
You don't get covered for that long by that many people without being part of a large and powerful network of like minded individuals.
ETA: So to answer your question. "Who molests kids?"(in the present tense) the answer would be BBC employees or officials, statesman and other politicians and I'm sure a host of "low" ranking players within their entertainment industry and government. Sadly, it's really no better here in the states.
speaking of sabine, she's got cajones. check her out.
at about a min and a half in she's overtaking with no road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP7aFlznAk0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP7aFlznAk0)
Quote from: Rockraven on March 25, 2015, 10:43:35 AM
Yep, the BBC had no choice but to fire him.
There are always options
The point about bringing up the savile thing is that when BBC talks about all this moral high road crap with clarkson it stinks of BS.
I mean this line right here is a slap right across the face of those that suffer at the hands of the rich and powerful within this very system.
"For me a line has been crossed. There cannot be one rule for one and one rule for another dictated by either rank, or public relations and commercial considerations."
I've worked at a place where one guy punched another, and the boss hauled them into the office and after some heated discussion, the parties reconciled and the workplace actually improved from it. Nobody got fired. If the general public found out, who cares... it was an internal issue that got resolved.
Now, at the same workplace, a guy got caught with child pornography. The bosses immediately intervened and had him charged and fired. If they tried the same thing and treat it like a simple assault (sweep it under the rug), the public would have been outraged and the whole organization would have fallen like a house of cards.
Quote from: Rockraven on March 25, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
I've worked at a place where one guy punched another, and the boss hauled them into the office and after some heated discussion, the parties reconciled and the workplace actually improved from it. Nobody got fired. If the general public found out, who cares... it was an internal issue that got resolved.
Now, at the same workplace, a guy got caught with child pornography. The bosses immediately intervened and had him charged and fired. If they tried the same thing and treat it like a simple assault (sweep it under the rug), the public would have been outraged and the whole organization would have fallen like a house of cards.
You don't live in Cougsland obviously..
Quote from: Rockraven on March 25, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
I've worked at a place where one guy punched another, and the boss hauled them into the office and after some heated discussion, the parties reconciled and the workplace actually improved from it. Nobody got fired. If the general public found out, who cares... it was an internal issue that got resolved.
If the employees are valuable, there are always options. If you don't like the person involved, then there are no options. Happens all the time.
ll, I was wrong; I thought he'd get off somehow even though he deserved to be sacked. Anybody who has raised kids knows the BBC really had no choice, they drew the line and had to take action when the line was crossed. What does a parent say when he spanks a kid? "This will hurt me more than it will hurt you"? That pretty much applies to the BBC's sacking Clarkson.
So what is the future of Top Gear. I suspect may and Hammond will decline to renew their contracts, may's already said as much, I haven't seen anything from Hammond on the subject. None of the three are hurting, all have sources of income other than Top Gear.
I guess we will see if the magic of the show is in the concept or the hosts. I think it's some of both. It will be interesting to watch what happens to the future of the show.
Another thought: This may the best thing that could have happened to Top Gear. Clarkson, May and Hammond can get a similar show going; I'd be surprised if someone somewhere with a pocketful of money isn't simply drooling at the thought of signing them. Top Gear was in a rut, IMO, At least two shows (the Russia show and Ultimate Road Trip were blatant copies of some of last year's offerings. maybe some new faces and new ideas would be a good thing.
A company like HBO with it's looser broadcast standards then the BBC might step in and give them an opportunity to really be as rude and crude as they wish.
The episode after the last one to air was supposed to have a shootout between the Golf R and the WRX STI. I really wanted to see that segment.
Or even Netflix or Amazon
Apparently Clarkson will now be charged with assault.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-to-be-sacked-by-BBC-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-to-be-sacked-by-BBC-live.html)
Is the producer pressing charges?
"Investigated" is much different then "charged". The police would have to be pretty damn bored to prosecute a bloody lip.
Yeah. Facing a probe is not being charged. Misleading title in that article.
Quote from: Northlands on March 25, 2015, 05:47:39 PM
Yeah. Facing a probe is not being charged. Misleading title in that article.
Sorry about that. For some reason it took forever to actually load the story so I gave up and posted it based on the headline.
I wonder if they have "non compete" clauses in their contracts. Personally, it would be cool if Simon Cowell created a new car series for the trio. It would be a goldmine for him to do so.
Excerpt from the report:
- over the subsequent days, Jeremy Clarkson made a number of attempts to apologise to Oisin Tymon by way of text, email and in person; and
it is the case that Jeremy Clarkson reported the incident to BBC management
I prefer the automotive reportings of Alex Dykes
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 26, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
I prefer the automotive reportings of Alex Dykes
Damn yo, you got a real hard on for that guy huh.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 26, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
Excerpt from the report:
- over the subsequent days, Jeremy Clarkson made a number of attempts to apologise to Oisin Tymon by way of text, email and in person; and
it is the case that Jeremy Clarkson reported the incident to BBC management
If you read reactions from people affiliated with Top Gear and not the BBC, you can easily infer the BBC chief taking the show in a direction that nobody was happy with and an absolute dislike for Clarkson.
Quote from: 12,000 RPM on March 26, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
I prefer the automotive reportings of Alex Dykes
He's good at providing driving impressions and details on the vehicles themselves, but he provides no entertainment value at all. Top Gear is not a car review program, it is an entertainment program with a focus on cars.
I do think there is more to Top Gear than Clarkson. I'll give it a 50/50 chance of moving on hoping they succeed and Clarkson too somewhere else. The production values are out of this world. Cinematic quality.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 26, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
I do think there is more to Top Gear than Clarkson. I'll give it a 50/50 chance of moving on hoping they succeed and Clarkson too somewhere else. The production values are out of this world. Cinematic quality.
BBC wants it to move towards the rest of their sterile programming - political correctiveness and no offensive. You can't have an entertaining show that expresses opionins while holding those values. It all becomes a bunch of cute puppies and kittens without criticism.
Chris harris might be a good addition.
Quote from: r0tor on March 26, 2015, 10:37:58 AM
BBC wants it to move towards the rest of their sterile programming - political correctiveness and no offensive. You can't have an entertaining show that expresses opionins while holding those values. It all becomes a bunch of cute puppies and kittens without criticism.
I don't think they're that stupid. It's not black/white necessarily. You can have lots of criticism and satire stopping short of punching people in the face.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 26, 2015, 10:44:37 AM
I don't think they're that stupid. It's not black/white necessarily. You can have lots of criticism and satire stopping short of punching people in the face.
Reading between the lines, the BBC have been progressively making their working conditions worse to drive them out.
Quote from: MexicoCityM3 on March 26, 2015, 10:32:43 AM
I do think there is more to Top Gear than Clarkson. I'll give it a 50/50 chance of moving on hoping they succeed and Clarkson too somewhere else. The production values are out of this world. Cinematic quality.
Maybe, but it came in the form of James May and Richard Hammond. We know that May won't be on the show. Some of the segments like the Auto news and the interviews ( Star in the RPC ) were great because of who was sitting in those chairs.
If BBC turns the programme into what some of the people writing in to complain about, which is more focused on reviews on regular cars and not what we've been seeing over the last decade, most people will just skip it and watch Motorweek.
If those three go work elsewhere on another network, many will be tuning in.
Quote from: CLKid on March 25, 2015, 04:40:23 PM
Apparently Clarkson will now be charged with assault.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-to-be-sacked-by-BBC-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-to-be-sacked-by-BBC-live.html)
Of course he should be charged, if the victim wants it so.
I'd be surprised if they don't end up bringing him back (all three, really). I heard Top Gear makes the BBC something like £50m a year. That's not nothing to walk away from for a little punch.
Don't forget how long it took to build the show to where it is now. No one had heard of it in the US 10yrs ago.
Quote from: Raza on March 26, 2015, 12:22:43 PM
I'd be surprised if they don't end up bringing him back (all three, really). I heard Top Gear makes the BBC something like £50m a year. That's not nothing to walk away from for a little punch.
Yeah, have you guys watched the original top gear show, and the first season before going from Jason Dawes to James May?
The original pre Clarkson Top Gear was worse than watching consumer report test a car, it was just horrible television. And while James May was boring, there's a sort of an entertaining thing about him that Jason Dawes simply lacked.
I've been watching season 1 (2002), and Jason Dawes is a bit of a bore to put it politely... The show isn't horrible, but a bit disconnected, particularly how they don't just finish the star interviews with the lap right away, but come back to it....
The audience spends their time talking to each other too.
Oisin is not pressing charges... he just wants to put this behind him and get back to work.
If they lose all 3 hosts, they may as well can the show. They might be able to salvage the show without Clarkson (it will be hard, but not impossible) if they handle the transition right. Keeping May and Hammond will retain familiarity with current fans. Replace all three hosts and that familiarity, that connection to the show before, is completely gone. You end up with a show that has the same name but is simply not the same show. It will be like another Top Gear spinoff (Top Gear US or Top Gear Australia) than real Top Gear.
http://youtu.be/d5_SB1FxAWg (http://youtu.be/d5_SB1FxAWg)
Quote from: MX793 on March 27, 2015, 02:33:14 PM
If they lose all 3 hosts, they may as well can the show. They might be able to salvage the show without Clarkson (it will be hard, but not impossible) if they handle the transition right. Keeping May and Hammond will retain familiarity with current fans. Replace all three hosts and that familiarity, that connection to the show before, is completely gone. You end up with a show that has the same name but is simply not the same show. It will be like another Top Gear spinoff (Top Gear US or Top Gear Australia) than real Top Gear.
They do it every 4 years or so with Doctor Who. :huh:
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on March 27, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
They do it every 4 years or so with Doctor Who. :huh:
Yeah but Doctor Who fans are generally in it for the story. Top Gear fans can watch car shows anywhere. The hosts are what makes most of that show.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on March 27, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
They do it every 4 years or so with Doctor Who. :huh:
Fictional characters != real personalities.
The Doctor is still the star of the show, they simply change the actor playing him. Each iteration of the Doctor has a slightly different twist on the character, each with some unique quirks and personality traits (each a reflection/representation of a different side of the Doctor), but each also fundamentally the Doctor. They made his changes in appearance and personality a fundamental part of the character and the story. They also carry-over cast members and pieces of story-line between Doctors to maintain some semblance of continuity from one Doctor to the next.
They can always do the same thing for Jeremy Clarkson. Kinda like the Stig except this guy yells out your need more Power!!!!
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on March 27, 2015, 04:51:42 PM
They do it every 4 years or so with Doctor Who. :huh:
Wouldn't work. An example: Would Ron White's material be as funny with someone else mouthing the words?
Could the producers of Top Gear America kick out the current hosts and replace them with Hammond, May and Clarkson?
:lol:
Quote from: Submariner on March 28, 2015, 10:50:44 PM
Could the producers of Top Gear America kick out the current hosts and replace them with Hammond, May and Clarkson?
Nope. BBC owns the rights to Top Gear. Besides, half the fun of the show for many of us is the fact they are doing these ridiculous challenges in other countries and seeing cars that we don't get or never will see on our own roads.
Quote from: r0tor on March 26, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
If you read reactions from people affiliated with Top Gear and not the BBC, you can easily infer the BBC chief taking the show in a direction that nobody was happy with and an absolute dislike for Clarkson.
The Beeb is standard-issue left: politically-correct & culturally hostile to dissenting viewpoints. Clarkson enjoyed talking the piss out of them. This is somewhat similar to popular tenured university faculty members who don't conform to institutional PC orthodoxy.
Clarkson's actions were inexcusable and he stupidly handed them the career coffin nails and hammer to them. Messier than they would have liked but I'm guessing they won't be entirely unhappy to see the back of him.
Yep, he absolutely had to go, and there is always opportunity in change.
Top Gear even if it dies I imagine will still be valuable property to the BBC.
As of 31 March, May and Hammond have declined to sign new deals with the BBC for Top Gear. So, all three presenters are now "free agents" available to sign with whomever they wish.
This is huge.
But did their contracts have a no-compete clause?
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 02, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
But did their contracts have a no-compete clause?
Highly likely, but nothing about this is being mentioned.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 02, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
Highly likely, but nothing about this is being mentioned.
I don't think a non-compete would apply after the expiration of the contract.
It can.
Certain Amazon warehouse workers aren't allowed to work in another warehouse for 18 months after ending their employment w/ Amazon.
Quote from: hotrodalex on April 02, 2015, 11:17:12 PM
It can.
Certain Amazon warehouse workers aren't allowed to work in another warehouse for 18 months after ending their employment w/ Amazon.
Ending ones employment is not the same as an expired contract. If they still had a year left on their contracts and they were all fired, I could see a non-compete applying for the duration of the contract, but their contract ran it's course. I honestly can't see there being a non-compete after the expiration of the contract.
There are always a handful of ways to kill a non compete anyway... Rarely do they stand up in court (well at least in the US).
Considering how former Top Gear alums Tiff Needell, Adrian Simpson, Quentin Willson, Vicki Butler-Henderson and Jon Bentley all jumped ship to Channel 5 to start Fifth Gear immediately after old Top Gear's demise in 2001, I seriously doubt any contractual non-compete exists or, if it does, is unlikely to be enforced.
Quote from: Madman on April 03, 2015, 06:06:17 AM
Considering how former Top Gear alums Tiff Needell, Adrian Simpson, Quentin Willson, Vicki Butler-Henderson and Jon Bentley all jumped ship to Channel 5 to start Fifth Gear immediately after old Top Gear's demise in 2002, I seriously doubt any contractual non-compete exists or, if it does, is unlikely to be enforced.
They spun off a new show after the old was canceled. They there were not competing with their previous program since it was no longer on the air. If BBC keeps Top Gear on air with new hosts, any similar program created or hosted by the previous crew on another network would be in direct competition. That said, I don't know what's written in their contracts as far as any non-compete clause, so I won't speculate.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 02, 2015, 11:06:57 PM
I don't think a non-compete would apply after the expiration of the contract.
They absolutely can, but they're most commonly used in business partnerships to prevent one guy from leaving and immediately setting up a competing business. They're also in the entertainment business as well... Simon Cowell had to do some legal fandangling to get around the non-compete with Simon Fuller's American Idol when he left to create X- Factor USA.
I'm not a lawyer but, like others have said, I think non-compete clauses are difficult to enforce and there are a myriad of ways to get around them. Would also generate very bad publicity for the BBC as it would be media fodder.
Quote from: MX793 on April 03, 2015, 06:11:30 AM
If BBC keeps Top Gear on air
I understand the BBC has dismantled the Top Gear sets in the hanger.
This could mean a new iteration with a somewhat new format and no hints of the old. Or, it could mean the BBC's thrown in the towel.
The BBC have indicated they will relaunch Top Gear in 2016, presumably with a new format making a clean break with the old one.
I give the new Top Gear one season before it's cancelled.
I hope the final 3 episodes are on the DVD.
Quote from: Madman on April 05, 2015, 04:06:03 PM
The BBC have indicated they will relaunch Top Gear in 2016, presumably with a new format making a clean break with the old one.
I will not watch it.
Quote from: r0tor on April 03, 2015, 05:21:54 AM
There are always a handful of ways to kill a non compete anyway... Rarely do they stand up in court (well at least in the US).
They can stand up if written correctly (mostly, realistic time frame, realistic no-go customer/competitor list). Thing is most are written poorly, and not even by lawyers.
LMAO... Clarkson just got signed on as a guest host for some news thing on the BBC on April 24
Quote from: r0tor on April 09, 2015, 08:45:02 AM
LMAO... Clarkson just got signed on as a guest host for some news thing on the BBC on April 24
:facepalm:
It just makes the BBC look like a bunch of fools. They're giving up one of the most watched TV programs in the world, but they're letting him on other shows anyway?
The BBC is run by idiots.
Clarkson bowed out.
Who cares, he always was a twat anyway.
What a shitshow
Quote from: Rockraven on April 09, 2015, 03:43:31 PM
Clarkson bowed out.
Yup. The show sounds a lot like NPR's
Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Update: Former 'Top Gear' host Jeremy Clarkson is not coming back to TV
Business Insider
By Benjamin Zhang
4 hours ago
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.Jeremy Clarkson BBC(YouTube/BBC/amgbob)Jeremy Clarkson is not returning to TV after all.
Clarkson has decided to pull the plug on his turn as the guest host of an episode of the BBC news quiz show "Have I Got News For You."
According to the show's producers, the bombastic TV host and automotive journalist decided against the appearance after a period of reflection.
Clarkson's cancelled appearance on "Have I Got News For You" would have been his first appearance on the BBC and on TV after the network announced late last month that it would not renew Clarkson's contract which expired at the end of March.
The network's decision to part ways with the polarizing TV personality came after an internal BBC inquiry found Clarkson had punched a "Top Gear" producer when he failed to obtain a hot steak dinner after a long day of filming.
In addition, the fracas with the producer came on the heels of a controversy-filled 2014 for Clarkson — which saw the TV host mired in scandal stemming from accusations of racists, sexists, and culturally insensitive comments.
Prior to his dismissal, Clarkson had spent nearly three decades as a host on "Top Gear" and is credited with being the driving force behind the show's explosive international success.
With more than 350 million weekly viewers, "Top Gear" set the Guinness World record as the most watched factual TV program in the world. In addition to the UK show, the Top Gear brand also includes numerous international spinoffs, a live stadium tour, merchandising, a successful magazine, and website.
"Have I Got News For You" is the BBC's comedy quiz show where panels of celebrity guests are grilled on the week's major news stories. For the past decade, the show has employed a series of guest hosts ranging from hollywood stars such as Benedict Cumberbatch and William Shatner to politicians like London Mayor Boris Johnson.
Clarkson has been a frequent participant in the quiz show, and last served as a guest host on an episode in April 2014.
The Clarkson-helmed episode would have aired on April 24. However, this may not be the end of Jeremy Clarkson involvement with "Have I Got News For You." The show's producers hinted to BBC News that he may guest host on another episode later in the year.
Has anyone mentioned Chris Harris as a replacement?
Quote from: GoCougs on April 09, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Has anyone mentioned Chris Harris as a replacement?
I listened to him on Joe Rogan's podcast and it didn't seem like he would be interested. The way he talked about it was like he believed nobody could ever replace any of them especially Clarkson and nobody should even try. He has spent a lot of time building his own brand and he doesn't want to abandon it.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 09, 2015, 10:01:34 PM
I listened to him on Joe Rogan's podcast and it didn't seem like he would be interested. The way he talked about it was like he believed nobody could ever replace any of them especially Clarkson and nobody should even try. He has spent a lot of time building his own brand and he doesn't want to abandon it.
Everyone, at the time, thought no one could replace Jack Parr on The Tonight Show. His replacement, Johnny Carson, had a pretty good run.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 09, 2015, 09:12:51 PM
Has anyone mentioned Chris Harris as a replacement?
I thought I did, maybe in a different thread.
I'd actually watch top gear again with Chris on it. I haven't watched top gear in years.
Also, LOL at the guiness record of the most watched "factual" tv show.
Quote from: CLKid on April 10, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
Everyone, at the time, thought no one could replace Jack Parr on The Tonight Show. His replacement, Johnny Carson, had a pretty good run.
I'm telling you what HE said.
Quote from: CLKid on April 10, 2015, 07:46:44 AM
Everyone, at the time, thought no one could replace Jack Parr on The Tonight Show. His replacement, Johnny Carson, had a pretty good run.
The Tonight Show went to pot when Steve Allen left! :fogey:
Quote from: SVT666 on April 09, 2015, 10:01:34 PM
I listened to him on Joe Rogan's podcast and it didn't seem like he would be interested. The way he talked about it was like he believed nobody could ever replace any of them especially Clarkson and nobody should even try. He has spent a lot of time building his own brand and he doesn't want to abandon it.
I'm curious as to what exactly is his brand whereby he has to ask for donations to keep his YouTube channel alive...
Probably the best thing he can do is feign disinterest.
Having the BBC bow down to him, and then Clarkson snub them... Nice chess move
Quote from: r0tor on April 09, 2015, 08:45:02 AM
LMAO... Clarkson just got signed on as a guest host for some news thing on the BBC on April 24
It is not "just"......... this was planned before the whole Top gear debacle. It was widely reported during the time that his fate was being determined, with some speculation that he would be asked not to do it. As the show is topical, it will not have been recorded yet, so dropping him could have been an option. It will be interesting to see how the regulars, Ian Hislop and Paul Merton treat him. Their satire can be rather close to the bone sometimes (which is why the show is popular).
Ironically, the original host of Have I Got News for You, which has been running for 25 years, was Angus Deayton, who got busted for repeatedly coming on the show under the influence of drugs. The show then used guests, most of who are well known (in the UK) to host it and has continued from strength to strength. presenter offences
Quote from: SVT666 on April 09, 2015, 02:06:53 PM
The BBC is run by idiots.
I'd gladly trade the CBC.
Quote from: Rockraven on April 11, 2015, 07:25:02 AM
I'd gladly trade the CBC.
Most definitely. The CBC is run by communists.
Wow, so apparently Clarkson was in the midst of a cancer scare that he couldnt get further diagnosed because he was on a top gear trip when the fracas broke out... That's about enough to put anyone over the edge.
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
Wow, so apparently Clarkson was in the midst of a cancer scare that he couldnt get further diagnosed because he was on a top gear trip when the fracas broke out... That's about enough to put anyone over the edge.
yuck!!
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
Wow, so apparently Clarkson was in the midst of a cancer scare that he couldnt get further diagnosed because he was on a top gear trip when the fracas broke out... That's about enough to put anyone over the edge.
I saw that and apparently it's nothing to worry about. I also saw where Clarkson said he's considering a motoring show on TV; life after
Top Gear.
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
Wow, so apparently Clarkson was in the midst of a cancer scare that he couldnt get further diagnosed because he was on a top gear trip when the fracas broke out... That's about enough to put anyone over the edge.
Absolutely not an excuse.
Quote from: GoCougs on April 19, 2015, 10:41:44 PM
Absolutely not an excuse.
Your an ass everyday without a lesser excuse - shrug-
Quote from: r0tor on April 19, 2015, 06:33:51 PM
Wow, so apparently Clarkson was in the midst of a cancer scare that he couldnt get further diagnosed because he was on a top gear trip when the fracas broke out... That's about enough to put anyone over the edge.
I saw that too, but it's not an excuse.
Quote from: r0tor on April 20, 2015, 07:28:13 AM
Your an ass everyday without a lesser excuse - shrug-
"You're"
He's not punching co-workers in the face though. Yes, he throws phones against kitchen cupboards, but he's not punching people.
In hockey, its well accepted that punching someone in the face every now and them keeps people in line better. I propose the world/workplace could benefit from this.
Quote from: r0tor on April 20, 2015, 10:35:44 AM
In hockey, its well accepted that punching someone in the face every now and them keeps people in line better. I propose the world/workplace could benefit from this.
Only if they deserve it though.
Quote from: SVT666 on April 20, 2015, 10:12:16 AM
I saw that too, but it's not an excuse.
If all he did was scream at the guy, yeah, I'd buy that as an excuse. No excuse for throwing a punch, though.
Andy Wilman resigns as Top Gear team reconvene to plot next move
Excerpt:
"The pair, along with Richard Hammond, are widely believed to be working on a new car show format with Wilman, which they may take to a rival British channel, Netflix or Amazon.
The quartet were spotted in London today, entering Clarkson's home before leaving together to enjoy a drink at a local pub."
More... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11558337/Andy-Wilman-resigns-as-Top-Gear-team-reconvene-to-plot-next-move.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11558337/Andy-Wilman-resigns-as-Top-Gear-team-reconvene-to-plot-next-move.html)
Quote from: MX793 on April 20, 2015, 10:58:47 AM
If all he did was scream at the guy, yeah, I'd buy that as an excuse. No excuse for throwing a punch, though.
Seems like all of his coworkers (who know the real story) disagree -shrug-
Quote from: Morris Minor on April 24, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Andy Wilman resigns as Top Gear team reconvene to plot next move
Excerpt:
"The pair, along with Richard Hammond, are widely believed to be working on a new car show format with Wilman, which they may take to a rival British channel, Netflix or Amazon.
The quartet were spotted in London today, entering Clarkson's home before leaving together to enjoy a drink at a local pub."
More... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11558337/Andy-Wilman-resigns-as-Top-Gear-team-reconvene-to-plot-next-move.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11558337/Andy-Wilman-resigns-as-Top-Gear-team-reconvene-to-plot-next-move.html)
:muffin:
Quote from: r0tor on April 24, 2015, 05:10:16 PM
Seems like all of his coworkers (who know the real story) disagree -shrug-
It's looking more like the producer was a company snitch. Those in the know are siding with Clarkson for a reason.
I'm guessing Wilman was always the program's main firewall holding back from it the dark forces of orthodox PCism, mediocrity, and risk aversion that is the core culture of the BBC.
The replacements:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11580679/BBC-has-chosen-dream-team-of-Top-Gear-presenters-to-replace-Jeremy-Clarkson.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11580679/BBC-has-chosen-dream-team-of-Top-Gear-presenters-to-replace-Jeremy-Clarkson.html)
Dream Team? HA! The dream team is who they had.
I had no idea Guy Martin was hosting TV shows now. Interesting choice for a host. I wouldn't have thought him the sort to take to hosting given that he seems to be one of those people who says what's on his mind without caring about who he might offend. He's a heck of a motorcycle rider, I'd be curious if he's equally as good on 4 wheels.
Chris Evans confirmed as new Top Gear presenter
Chris Evans, the Radio 2 DJ, is to replace Jeremy Clarkson as the lead presenter of a revamped Top Gear, the BBC has announced.
Evans, a known car enthusiast, has signed a three-year deal to head up the BBC Two show, calling it his "favourite programme of all time".
He had initially been considered the front-runner to present the show after Clarkson's relationship with the corporation ended following a so-called "fracas", being the bookies' favourite for a time for his devotion to classic cars.
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11679612/Chris-Evans-confirmed-as-new-Top-Gear-presenter.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11679612/Chris-Evans-confirmed-as-new-Top-Gear-presenter.html)
I think this is going to turn out well. We´ll get the old new top gear at the BBC and the guys are heading to Netflix to do a competing show. So, now we'll get twice the car content.
It will be nothing like the Top Gear we have known; Wilman, Clarkson, May & Hammond are gone & there will be a completely new talent lineup. Difficult shoes to fill, but not impossible.
However my hunch is they will skew to a more "inclusive" format: toeing the BBC Party line... more acceptable to the commissars.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 16, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
It will be nothing like the Top Gear we have known; Wilman, Clarkson, May & Hammond are gone & there will be a completely new talent lineup. Difficult shoes to fill, but not impossible.
However my hunch is they will skew to a more "inclusive" format: toeing the BBC Party line... more acceptable to the commissars.
Yes, it'll be different. But with the original cast moving to Netflix, that would keep the original spirit going.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 16, 2015, 06:58:57 PM
It will be nothing like the Top Gear we have known; Wilman, Clarkson, May & Hammond are gone & there will be a completely new talent lineup. Difficult shoes to fill, but not impossible.
However my hunch is they will skew to a more "inclusive" format: toeing the BBC Party line... more acceptable to the commissars.
Call me cynical, but if they do move to a more inclusive format, you are ignoring the core audience and the show will be cancelled after 2 seasons.
I expect the BBC to cast at least one left-handed female midget Eskimo Muslim albino lesbian to give the show "balance". :lol:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10627063/BBC-bans-all-male-panels-on-comedy-shows.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10627063/BBC-bans-all-male-panels-on-comedy-shows.html)
Quote from: SVT666 on June 17, 2015, 02:23:13 AM
Call me cynical, but if they do move to a more inclusive format, you are ignoring the core audience and the show will be cancelled after 2 seasons.
Format aside - if the presenters can't do big smokey powerslides and actually be able to handle today's high powered super ars then it will be cancelled before 2 seasons anyway... My suspicion is this will be the case
The Three Stooges (Clarkson, Hammond and May) have just signed a deal with Amazon Video.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/celebritynews/amazon-sign-top-gears-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-and-james-may-for-new-show-10426102.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/celebritynews/amazon-sign-top-gears-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-and-james-may-for-new-show-10426102.html)
Back at the BBC, it has been rumoured that Formula 1 driver (soon to be EX-Formula 1 driver?) Jenson Button will be joining Chris Evans.
I can't wait for the new show.
I kind of want them to call it Sixth Gear.
Quote from: Raza on July 30, 2015, 05:11:13 PM
I can't wait for the new show.
I kind of want them to call it Sixth Gear.
Kind of weak, considering we now have cars with eight and nine speed transmissions.
How about High Gear?
Quote from: Madman on July 30, 2015, 08:45:17 PM
Kind of weak, considering we now have cars with eight and nine speed transmissions.
How about High Gear?
Not proper transmissions though, at least outside of things that run on diesel and have mudflaps with chrome silhouettes.
Jeremy Clarkson gets plaque at hotel where Top Gear fracas took place
The scene of Jeremy Clarkson's infamous fracas with a BBC Top Gear producer has been commemorated with a plaque at the hotel where the altercation took place.
Simonstone Hall in the Yorkshire Dales shared a picture of the plaque, donated by a hotel guest, on Facebook. more...
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34910367 (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-34910367)
(http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/14BDA/production/_86845948_clarkson-plaque.jpg)
LOL. cool
Awesome. :clap:
That's a pretty smart hotel owner. Sure to bring in more business.
BBC's reboot of Top Gear with Chris Evans as the show's main host isn't going as smoothly as planned, a new report finds. Evans is taking over the reins of Top Gear from former front man Jeremy Clarkson.
As the old saying goes, it can be difficult to walk and chew gum at the same time, and Evans is apparently proving that adage true. Reports from inside Top Gear indicate Evans is "really struggling to master the art of driving and talking to camera, which is crucial."
Although Clarkson and his old co-hosts, Richard Hammond and James May, made driving while talking look easy, it can actually be a tricky thing to master. "It's a skill. Jeremy, Richard and James could do it no problem, in one or two takes," the Top Gear insider told The Sun newspaper.
Evans is struggling so mightily that he has reportedly already crashed one car on track. "The first time Chris went round the Top Gear track he crashed the car," another source said. "Unfortunately for him it was a brand new Jag that had been lent to the show."
Adding to the mess, new Top Gear executive producer Lisa Clark has already quit and Tom Ford, the show's script editor, has stated that he's leaving the show at the end of his contract.
Meanwhile, Clarkson and Co. are preparing to launch a new car-themed show on Amazon Video sometime this year.
Quote from: SVT666 on January 06, 2016, 10:38:50 AM
BBC's reboot of Top Gear with Chris Evans as the show's main host isn't going as smoothly as planned, a new report finds. Evans is taking over the reins of Top Gear from former front man Jeremy Clarkson.
As the old saying goes, it can be difficult to walk and chew gum at the same time, and Evans is apparently proving that adage true. Reports from inside Top Gear indicate Evans is "really struggling to master the art of driving and talking to camera, which is crucial."
Although Clarkson and his old co-hosts, Richard Hammond and James May, made driving while talking look easy, it can actually be a tricky thing to master. "It's a skill. Jeremy, Richard and James could do it no problem, in one or two takes," the Top Gear insider told The Sun newspaper.
Evans is struggling so mightily that he has reportedly already crashed one car on track. "The first time Chris went round the Top Gear track he crashed the car," another source said. "Unfortunately for him it was a brand new Jag that had been lent to the show."
Adding to the mess, new Top Gear executive producer Lisa Clark has already quit and Tom Ford, the show's script editor, has stated that he's leaving the show at the end of his contract.
Meanwhile, Clarkson and Co. are preparing to launch a new car-themed show on Amazon Video sometime this year.
I don't know why the BBC didn't just kill the show.
Quote from: Morris Minor on January 06, 2016, 02:03:27 PM
I don't know why the BBC didn't just kill the show.
Because they thought the show was bigger than Clarkson, Hammond, and May. They thought a new cast and a more PC environment would actually make the show more popular.
Also heard that Evans is an insufferable prick to work with.
Quote from: Rockraven on January 06, 2016, 02:12:12 PM
Also heard that Evans is an insufferable prick to work with.
I guess that qualifies him to be the new Clarkson!
Matt Leblanc confirmed as 2nd TG host. :hmm:
I thought I had read somewhere David Couthard was going to be the third presenter but I guess not?
So it's Chris Evans, Sabine Schmitz and Matt LeBlanc? Well, they certainly have a multinational cast and the BBC got its requisite token female in the form of Sabine. At least we know she can drive. So much so, she made Chris Evans sick inside the car just recently.
Check out that first photo. Yes, that's puke inside the window!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/6866247/Top-Gear-host-Chris-Evans-is-car-sick.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/6866247/Top-Gear-host-Chris-Evans-is-car-sick.html)
More here......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/12105483/New-Top-Gear-presenter-Chris-Evans-suffers-from-car-sickness.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/12105483/New-Top-Gear-presenter-Chris-Evans-suffers-from-car-sickness.html)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3404135/Top-Gear-host-Chris-Evans-halts-filming-climbs-car-VOMIT-taking-spin-star-Sabine-Schmitz.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3404135/Top-Gear-host-Chris-Evans-halts-filming-climbs-car-VOMIT-taking-spin-star-Sabine-Schmitz.html)
Quote from: Rockraven on February 04, 2016, 06:53:46 AM
Matt Leblanc confirmed as 2nd TG host. :hmm:
Actually, I think he'll be pretty good. It is interesting that only one of the presenters is British. I guess they're acknowledging that it really has become an international show.
Quote from: Madman on February 04, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
I thought I had read somewhere David Couthard was going to be the third presenter but I guess not?
So it's Chris Evans, Sabine Schmitz and Matt LeBlanc? Well, they certainly have a multinational cast and the BBC got its requisite token female in the form of Sabine. At least we know she can drive. So much so, she made Chris Evans sick inside the car just recently.
Check out that first photo. Yes, that's puke inside the window!
Apparently they might end up with four presenters? No idea how reliable this article is.
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-02-04/more-big-names-to-join-matt-leblanc-as-presenters-on-top-gear---but-it-will-still-be-the-chris-evans-show (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-02-04/more-big-names-to-join-matt-leblanc-as-presenters-on-top-gear---but-it-will-still-be-the-chris-evans-show)
Top Gear is gonna suck. I just hope Amazon gets their act together before the boys' new show premieres and either gets the show broadcast on TV or expands the availability of Amazon's streaming service beyond the US and UK.
I think LeBlanc will be good. But I'm still mainly interested in the original crew.
LeBlanc is cool, is he a car guy? They should steal Rutledge from Top Gear US.
Seems risky to try to live up to the OG Top Gear. Probably hard to find the right people who will actually take that risk.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 05, 2016, 01:37:48 PM
LeBlanc is cool, is he a car guy? They should steal Rutledge from Top Gear US.
Seems risky to try to live up to the OG Top Gear. Probably hard to find the right people who will actually take that risk.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+matt+leblanc+a+car+guy (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=is+matt+leblanc+a+car+guy)
In a less passive aggressive way, the answer is yes.
http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-new-host-matt-leblanc-is-a-legit-car-and-moto-1757076253 (http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-new-host-matt-leblanc-is-a-legit-car-and-moto-1757076253)
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 05, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
In a less passive aggressive way, the answer is yes.
http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-new-host-matt-leblanc-is-a-legit-car-and-moto-1757076253 (http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-new-host-matt-leblanc-is-a-legit-car-and-moto-1757076253)
:lol:
Glad to be of service.
Didn't LeBlanc take the stop spot on the leaderboard when he was on for SIARPC?
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 06, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
Didn't LeBlanc take the stop spot on the leaderboard when he was on for SIARPC?
Yes. Fastest time for any one in the CEE'D and fastest SIARPC time overall (I feel like the CEE'D was the fastest car they used of all of them).
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 06, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
Didn't LeBlanc take the stop spot on the leaderboard when he was on for SIARPC?
Twice.
Matt will be a good host, and pretty funny. Unfortunately he won't last an entire series without punching Evans in the face.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 04, 2016, 11:56:28 AM
Top Gear is gonna suck. I just hope Amazon gets their act together before the boys' new show premieres and either gets the show broadcast on TV or expands the availability of Amazon's streaming service beyond the US and UK.
It may or may not suck, but it certainly won't be Top Gear as we've all come to love it. That will be its greatest hurtle. 5th Gear isn't Top Gear, but I enjoy it. Not quite as fun as Top Gear, but it's a good motoring show. The new TG format may end up being a good show in its own right, but the fact that it'll likely be very different from the show everyone knows and loves will make a lot of people instinctively say "it sucks" and refuse to watch it.
I don't like Evans and I think LeBlanc will be terrible.
Quote from: MX793 on February 06, 2016, 12:06:32 PM
It may or may not suck, but it certainly won't be Top Gear as we've all come to love it. That will be its greatest hurtle. 5th Gear isn't Top Gear, but I enjoy it. Not quite as fun as Top Gear, but it's a good motoring show. The new TG format may end up being a good show in its own right, but the fact that it'll likely be very different from the show everyone knows and loves will make a lot of people instinctively say "it sucks" and refuse to watch it.
They can probably lose 70% of their regular viewers and still consider it a hit.
When Chris Harris did his P1 vs 918 vs LaFerrari video he said something about it being his last video. Turns out, it was. He's going to be on Top Gear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/top-gear/10-things-you-should-know-about-top-gear-presenter-chris-harris/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/top-gear/10-things-you-should-know-about-top-gear-presenter-chris-harris/)
The new Top Gear team...
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Well, he's your new Top Gear lineup. SEVEN presenters, if you count The Stig.
http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-dream-team-is-chris-harris-eddie-jordan-sab-1758455183 (http://jalopnik.com/top-gears-dream-team-is-chris-harris-eddie-jordan-sab-1758455183)
Reminds me of the early days of Fifth Gear, when they had more presenters than viewers. Just keep in mind it took a few seasons, several cast changes and a number of failed experiments with the format before Fifth Gear finally hit upon a formula that worked. Something tells me the new Top Gear will have to suffer this same evolutionary process before it eventually settles into something watchable. And that's assuming the BBC is VERY patient and gives the show the time it needs to find itself.
Quote from: Rockraven on February 11, 2016, 06:16:15 AM
The new Top Gear team...
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That seems like too many.
Quote from: Raza on February 11, 2016, 07:13:14 AM
That seems like too many.
You're forgetting the BBC insists upon a policy of "diversity" these days. Top Gear 2.0, with its three old white guys, would never fly in today's PC environment. So now we have five nationalities (British, Irish, German, American and whatever the hell The Stig is), a ginger, a black guy and a token female.
You're never going to tick all those requisite diversity boxes with only three people on the show. Plus, having such a large cast means if any one of them suck, it's much easier and less disruptive to the show to drop them and replace that person with somebody else. At least all of them have some serious car-loving and/or motorsport credentials. Contrast this with Fifth Gear's misguided decision to hire Tim Lovejoy, who knew nothing about cars (and frequently admitted as such on the show!) and who was completely out of his depth. He only got the job because he was a familiar face who the network believed could bring in viewers. Thankfully, he was shown the door after one miserable season. Let's be glad Top Gear hasn't made that kind of mistake!
I will not watch this show
This is going to suck.
Betcha the black guy gets dropped first. Fuckin' racists.
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 11, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Betcha the black guy gets dropped first. Fuckin' racists.
I've seen some of Rory Reid's stuff on YouTube and he's very funny and entertaining. Eddie Jordan, on the other hand, is annoying as hell. Yes, Eddie, we all know you used to have your own Formula One team. You don't have to remind us EVERY THIRTY FUCKING SECONDS!!!!
Quote from: giant_mtb on February 11, 2016, 09:20:45 AM
Betcha the black guy gets dropped first. Fuckin' racists.
:lol:
The level of hate here is :facepalm: worthy. Obviously they aren't going to be able to match the chemistry of the original trio, but it could still end up being a good car show in it's own right.
SEVEN?! :facepalm:
JFC give the show a chance. Jesus. I don't know who the old white dude or black dude are but I'm willing to give them a chance. I like the rest of the cast except Evans so maybe it won't be too bad.
I'm most excited for LeBlanc and Harris. Those guys should make the show pretty entertaining.
Quote from: thecarnut on February 11, 2016, 11:03:18 AM
JFC give the show a chance. Jesus. I don't know who the old white dude or black dude are but I'm willing to give them a chance. I like the rest of the cast except Evans so maybe it won't be too bad.
I'm most excited for LeBlanc and Harris. Those guys should make the show pretty entertaining.
Agree. Old white guy is Eddie Jordan, whose F1 team had 4 wins. I have no idea of his character, or what he brings to the show.
Quote from: Rockraven on February 11, 2016, 11:12:35 AM
Agree. Old white guy is Eddie Jordan, whose F1 team had ONE win. I have no idea of his character, or what he brings to the show.
He's Irish. Can't be all bad.
Sabine and Harris will be the only reasons this show succeeds.
Maybe this is a "sink or swim" scenario. The last three standing stay on permanently. My prediction is the first one to leave is the old guy, then LeBlanc, and then Sabine. The black guy, Evans, and Harris will be the last three. I like Sabine, but I think the chemistry will work best with those three.
Quote from: SVT666 on February 11, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
Sabine and Harris will be the only reasons this show succeeds.
Have you seen the show already or what?
Quote from: thecarnut on February 11, 2016, 01:50:30 PM
Have you seen the show already or what?
I've seen stuff from all of them.
Quote from: Rockraven on February 11, 2016, 11:12:35 AM
Agree. Old white guy is Eddie Jordan, whose F1 team had 4 wins. I have no idea of his character, or what he brings to the show.
If you watch F1, he's part of the BBC F1 coverage. Interesting guy, but not all that funny
having filming issues- planned a trip to Kazakhstan but Russia blocked it
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-gear-forced-to-scrap-a-500000-filming-trip-091213654.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-gear-forced-to-scrap-a-500000-filming-trip-091213654.html)
Quote from: CaminoRacer on February 11, 2016, 10:45:23 AM
SEVEN?! :facepalm:
I'm not sure all seven will be on every show.
To those who are already saying it will suck. Lighten up and give it a chance. Personally I liked the previous version and would watch every show, but it was getting just a bit predictable and it became more and more obvious that most of the situations were scripted.
Try to approach the new show with an open mind. Come to think of it that's probably good advice for approaching life in general.
Chris Evans is constantly in the news for being a lazy twat, so that's where a lot of my unexcited feelings stem from. Clarkson might have been an asshole at times, but at least he's a hard worker.
I'm keeping my mind open, but all the bad publicity around Evans is certainly not promising.
trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTWcEjj0w3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTWcEjj0w3s)
It looks pretty good from that 1 minute trailer I guess.
lol I like how they put the clip of Evans puking in the show.
LeBlanc almost ran over a cameraman..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-gear-matt-le-blanc-left-shaken-after-110452050.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-gear-matt-le-blanc-left-shaken-after-110452050.html)
The problem is that the original show took a decade to get to where it was. The expectations are too high for the new show, they won't have time to fix themselves before the public reacts.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 30, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Chris Evans is constantly in the news for being a lazy twat, so that's where a lot of my unexcited feelings stem from. Clarkson might have been an asshole at times, but at least he's a hard worker.
He's also perhaps the ugliest man alive.
First episode was better than I expected.
I have the DVR set for tonight. Will watch it later.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on May 29, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
First episode was better than I expected.
I thought it was good and I'll keep watching, but only after recording to cut out the commercials.
Well I managed to get through about the first 12 minutes. Not sure that this will go anywhere other than tits-up, what with the orange-haired gremlin leaping around in tight trousers. I'll persevere though.
So I haven't watched it yet. I've got it on the DVR.
Chris Harris isn't even in it?! He's in some BS called Extra Gear? :facepalm:
Quote from: MrH on May 31, 2016, 07:07:14 AM
So I haven't watched it yet. I've got it on the DVR.
Chris Harris isn't even in it?! He's in some BS called Extra Gear? :facepalm:
Really? I thought he was going to be a recurring guest host in the show, along with a few others. Not in every episode, but would do a segment here and there.
Yeah he wasn't in the episode.
I'd like it if they sacked Evans and just had LeBlanc, Sabine, and Harris.
Why isn't he one of the top three presenters? He's the big draw out of that group for sure.
Quote from: MrH on May 31, 2016, 07:36:57 AM
Why isn't he one of the top three presenters? He's the big draw out of that group for sure.
Among US audiences, maybe, but Evans has a huge audience base in the UK by virtue of his very popular radio show. IIRC, he was the UK's highest paid entertainer in the early 2000s.
Quote from: Morris Minor on May 30, 2016, 08:52:35 PM
, what with the orange-haired gremlin leaping around in tight trousers. I'll persevere though.
Being blessed with devastatingly good looks myself :rolleyes: (I've been told I resemble Jack Hanna, the animal show guy) I try not to knock people's appearance, because a lot of it's beyond their control. But having said that, I think those thick black frames on his glasses aren't doing him any favors.
Quote from: MX793 on May 31, 2016, 07:48:28 AM
Among US audiences, maybe, but Evans has a huge audience base in the UK by virtue of his very popular radio show. IIRC, he was the UK's highest paid entertainer in the early 2000s.
Make Sabine a special guest then. Or Le Blanc. Harris has to be one of the key 3 presenters.
Quote from: MrH on May 31, 2016, 07:07:14 AM
So I haven't watched it yet. I've got it on the DVR.
Chris Harris isn't even in it?! He's in some BS called Extra Gear? :facepalm:
I found Extra Gear disappointing. I was hoping for more behind the scenes stuff with outtakes and other stupidity.
Quote from: MrH on May 31, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
Make Sabine a special guest then. Or Le Blanc. Harris has to be one of the key 3 presenters.
I believe Sabine has a similar arrangement as Harris. The only full-time hosts are Evans and LeBlanc.
Just finished watching it. A few thoughts:
-Evans seems like he's trying way to hard. His enthusiasm seems forced, like he's trying really hard to convince the viewers to be enthused by bombarding everyone with exaggerated enthusiasm and hoping its contagious. I found it irritating.
-LeBlanc seemed pretty stiff and out of his element in the live studio segments. I thought he did a pretty good job with the Nomad segment, though. There's some promise there.
-Cinematography seemed sub-par compared to previous seasons.
-Zero chemistry between the hosts, though I suppose that's to be expected. The earliest seasons of "classic" Top Gear weren't all that different in that regard.
-Chris Harris needs to be brought into the main show and I could do without that "Extra Gear" show that feels like a compressed, Top Gear Light tacked onto the end of the show.
Was it utterly terrible? No. Was it as good as the "old" Top Gear? Not even close. I'd place it about on par with the US Top Gear.
Quote from: MX793 on May 31, 2016, 07:36:10 PM
Just finished watching it. A few thoughts:
-Evans seems like he's trying way to hard. His enthusiasm seems forced, like he's trying really hard to convince the viewers to be enthused by bombarding everyone with exaggerated enthusiasm and hoping its contagious. I found it irritating.
Supposedly during the filming of the studio segment he started yelling at the audience for not reacting to anything he was saying. Not laughing at his "jokes" etc to the point where he ended up just telling the audience to talk among themselves so it wasn't dead silent, and it'd appear the audience was enjoying themselves.
Evans is the UK's highest paid entertainer (per Wikipedia) so he obviously has talent. I will give it another shot - I was tired & grumpy the other night. But Hector's point about the forced enthusiasm is well taken - it reminds me a bit of the hyperactive style used by hosts of kids' shows.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 02, 2016, 11:43:58 AM
Evans is the UK's highest paid entertainer (per Wikipedia) so he obviously has talent. I will give it another shot - I was tired & grumpy the other night. But Hector's point about the forced enthusiasm is well taken - it reminds me a bit of the hyperactive style used by hosts of kids' shows.
Why would anyone pay to look at his ugly mug?
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 02, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
Why would anyone pay to look at his ugly mug?
He rose to prominence as a radio show host.
Quote from: MX793 on June 02, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
He rose to prominence as a radio show host.
Ah, OK. :lol:
He's got the right look for radio.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on June 02, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
Why would anyone pay to look at his ugly mug?
Have you seen Clarkson?
Apparently UK viewership for last night's Episode 2 dropped more than a third compared to last week. "Antiques Roadshow" had almost double the audience.
Quote from: 280Z Turbo on April 03, 2016, 01:19:02 PM
He's also perhaps the ugliest man alive.
Well, he fucked Billie Piper, so he can't be that ugly.
Quote from: Raza on June 06, 2016, 06:11:06 PM
Well, he fucked Billie Piper, so he can't be that ugly.
sometimes the attraction is to the wallet, not the man.
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Quote from: Morris Minor on June 06, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
Apparently UK viewership for last night's Episode 2 dropped more than a third compared to last week. "Antiques Roadshow" had almost double the audience.
Has anyone watched it yet? Any better than last week?
Quote from: CLKid on June 06, 2016, 07:00:51 PM
sometimes the attraction is to the wallet, not the man.
(http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Business/gty_rupert_murdoch_wendy_deng_ll_131120_33x16_1600.jpg)
Perhaps more the estate plan.....Evans isn't at death's door.
Quote from: CLKid on June 06, 2016, 07:00:51 PM
sometimes the attraction is to the wallet, not the man.
(http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Business/gty_rupert_murdoch_wendy_deng_ll_131120_33x16_1600.jpg)
Billie Piper was already famous/wealthy/successful prior to hooking up with Evans. Murdoch's wife is a gold digger.
Quote from: Raza on June 06, 2016, 06:11:06 PM
Well, he fucked Billie Piper, so he can't be that ugly.
She didn't stick around long. He's an insufferable prat.
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 06, 2016, 01:14:56 PM
Apparently UK viewership for last night's Episode 2 dropped more than a third compared to last week. "Antiques Roadshow" had almost double the audience.
Evans has all the charm of an ingrown scrotum hair.
Quote from: Rockraven on June 06, 2016, 07:39:45 PM
She didn't stick around long. He's an insufferable prat.
They were married for 5 or 6 years.
Watching the first ep now.
Wouldn't the giant gun on the Viper's roof fuck up the airflow and therefore the downforce from the wing?
Quote from: Raza on June 06, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
Watching the first ep now.
Wouldn't the giant gun on the Viper's roof fuck up the airflow and therefore the downforce from the wing?
Absolutely
Evans does seem like he's trying to do a Top Gear Presenter impression rather than just being himself.
Can't wait for The Grand Tour to hit the air.
Wait, did they keep the old power board, but rewrite all the times in Evans's handwriting? :wtf:
Quote from: MX793 on June 06, 2016, 07:42:32 PM
They were married for 5 or 6 years.
Where was The Doctor to rescue her on that one? :lol:
Quote from: Raza on June 06, 2016, 07:55:56 PM
Wait, did they keep the old power board, but rewrite all the times in Evans's handwriting? :wtf:
I noticed that, too!
Quote from: Raza on June 06, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
Watching the first ep now.
Watching ep2 now. Thinking "Pick up the pace".
Watching the 675LT go around the track had me grinning like crazy. What an awesome car.
Quote from: CLKid on June 07, 2016, 09:54:52 PM
Watching ep2 now. Thinking "Pick up the pace".
After that I tried watching the follow up show "Top Gear Lite" or whatever it's called. Quite boring to watch two people I don't know and don't care about sitting on a stage talking. How about some freaking action!
Then I watched Top Gear USA, the Postal van episode, new yesterday. Frankly, it was more entertaining that the UK shows.
If Top Gear UK doesn't change or improve significantly as the season progresses the show is in real trouble.
I watched the last 20 min of the TG USA postal van episode. Pretty good, actually!
I thought episode 2 was slightly better than the first. LaBlanc seemed a bit more natural and at ease. Evans seemed slightly less grating and forced. The Extra Gear segment is lame. I watched the first few minutes and shut it off for lack of interest.
I assume "Extra Gear" is like the news but an entire show?
Just in case you need a quick & easy reason for not bothering, Evans refers to a Porsche as a "Porsh."
You may be better entertained rearranging your sock drawer, or having a desultory wank.
I just got around to watching it and enjoyed it quite a bit. I'll probably keep watching this season mostly due to LeBlanc.
TBH, Tinie Tempah could be the third host. LeBlanc, Tinie, and Harris. :lol:
And after checking out his twitter feed, looks like I'm not the only one who thinks so
https://twitter.com/TinieTempah/status/739554674576089088
Couldn't get through the second episode. Deleted the Top Gear timer from my DVR. Can't wait for The Grand Tour.
Episode 3 was much improved. Largely because they cut back on Chris Evans' screen time (to just over half what it was in the first episode) and brought Chris Harris and Rory Reid into the main show. Evans was cut back to a piece on the Audi R8 (shared with Sabine and including the now infamous vomit incident) and the SiaRPC guest interview segment, where he seems a pretty good fit given his background. Harris is a known quantity, and his piece on the F12tdf was both a reminder of how good his former web series was and was also very much at home under the TG umbrella. He should have been a primary contributor from the get-go, and it sounds like going forward he will be. Rory Reid's piece on the Focus RS was pretty good. He seems more genuine than Evans, his enthusiasm not seeming forced, and his skills behind the wheel surprised me. Based on the Extra Gear segments I've watched, he seems as comfortable interviewing guests as Evans. Star-power aside, I think they could get rid of Evans and have Rory fill in the segments Evans does with nothing really lost. LaBlanc seems like he gets a little better each episode. His mellow, easy-going, somewhat sarcastic demeanor fits the show well and I think he has potential as he grows into his role as a host.
Reports are out stating that Evans' reduced screen time will continue in the future, and Harris and Reid will become regular contributors to the main show. There is yet some hope.
^Agreed. I liked Reid's segment, and Harris was classic Harris (which is to say, fantastic).
Autoblog is reporting Reid and Harris' roles will grow while Evans' will shrink
Should I add the DVR timer back then?
It seems he'll still be on the "in-studio" part of the show, but the car reviews and such will be mostly done by others now. I thought Harris and Reid did a good job. Reid had good energy and sounded like he was legitimately enjoying the car.
So I finished the 1st episode watched the 2nd. Honestly, just get rid of Chris Evans and the whole thing would be pretty good. Reid, Harris, and Le Blanc are all great. Sabine's english isn't the best, but she brings some raw driving talent to the group.
Quote from: MrH on June 16, 2016, 07:30:12 AM
So I finished the 1st episode watched the 2nd. Honestly, just get rid of Chris Evans and the whole thing would be pretty good. Reid, Harris, and Le Blanc are all great. Sabine's english isn't the best, but she brings some raw driving talent to the group.
That's pretty much what a buddy of mine and I agreed with.
Evans just seems like he is forcing it all the time.
I don't care for the rally cross, and wonder what happened to the news segment...
Yeah, news with Reid and Harris was great in Extra Gear on the first episode. Extend that. Get rid of Evans. Problem solved.
Watching old episodes of Top Gear on my iPod. Man, this show used to be so awesome. Right now I have the episode where they do the best non-Porsche £1500 coupe. Such a classic episode, with the Jag XJS, BMW 635csi, and Mitsu Starion.
What's up with the sound in the studio? It's always jumping up and down, like an intern is in charge of the sound levels.
Also, everyone is too nice to each other and about the cars
Matt LeBlanc is 'planning to quit Top Gear if co-host Chris Evans does not go first'
Matt LeBlanc is allegedly planning to quit Top Gear if his co-host Chris Evans is not removed from the team first, sources have claimed.
The American presenter, 48, is said to be concerned about Evans's rudeness towards other members of the team, with some suggesting he also is frustrating to film with.t allegedly comes just months ahead of the start of filming for the second series, which is due to begin in September.
The rumours also emerged as the show's bosses face a rapidly declining audience, with just 2.34 million people tuning into last week's episode. The lowest audience posted by the show's former team, led by Jeremy Clarkson, was 2.36 million in June 2003.
More...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/matt-leblanc-is-planning-to-quit-top-gear-if-co-host-chris-evans/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/matt-leblanc-is-planning-to-quit-top-gear-if-co-host-chris-evans/)
Quote from: Morris Minor on June 26, 2016, 07:44:32 AM
Matt LeBlanc is 'planning to quit Top Gear if co-host Chris Evans does not go first'
Matt LeBlanc is allegedly planning to quit Top Gear if his co-host Chris Evans is not removed from the team first, sources have claimed.
The American presenter, 48, is said to be concerned about Evans's rudeness towards other members of the team, with some suggesting he also is frustrating to film with.t allegedly comes just months ahead of the start of filming for the second series, which is due to begin in September.
The rumours also emerged as the show's bosses face a rapidly declining audience, with just 2.34 million people tuning into last week's episode. The lowest audience posted by the show's former team, led by Jeremy Clarkson, was 2.36 million in June 2003.
More...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/matt-leblanc-is-planning-to-quit-top-gear-if-co-host-chris-evans/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/matt-leblanc-is-planning-to-quit-top-gear-if-co-host-chris-evans/)
I was just about to post this. Cut the cast down to LeBlanc, Harris, and Reid and it stands a fighting chance. Maybe have Sabine as a recurring guest host. Evans is insufferable and Jordan adds essentially nothing.
Top Gear USA is cancelled.
Saw episode 4. Very entertaining. LeBlanc and Reid are pretty natural. I don't have much of an opinion on Evans but everyone says he sucks. Harris is kind of off by himself on a very cool race track in Abu Dhabi. Sabine is awesome. The segment with the chefs cooking in the cars and motorcycle was hilarious. I hope this show survives because there's nothing like it on the air right now.
Looking forward to the original 3 getting back together on Amazon.
Le Blanc even called Harris the lone wolf. Only because Evans is taking up too much space and keeping Harris out of the inner circle!
Quote from: Galaxy on June 28, 2016, 04:49:29 AM
Top Gear USA is cancelled.
. Decision validated by nobody noticing.
Quote from: Galaxy on June 28, 2016, 04:49:29 AM
Top Gear USA is cancelled.
Unfortunate. The show was just starting to find its groove and much of the last season was pretty enjoyable.
Quote from: CaminoRacer on June 28, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Le Blanc even called Harris the lone wolf. Only because Evans is taking up too much space and keeping Harris out of the inner circle!
Maybe I misread the article but I thought he said Evans was the one not socializing with the rest of the cast.
Quote from: 68_427 on June 29, 2016, 03:58:11 AM
Maybe I misread the article but I thought he said Evans was the one not socializing with the rest of the cast.
In the most recent episode, he introduced Chris Harris as a "lone wolf".
I have this feeling that Harris has some other professional obligations and that has limited his availability to be there for studio segments. As a result, he feels more like an adjunct contributor than a core member of the cast even though he's been getting more screen time in terms of filmed segments.
Quote from: MX793 on June 29, 2016, 04:18:19 AM
In the most recent episode, he introduced Chris Harris as a "lone wolf".
I have this feeling that Harris has some other professional obligations and that has limited his availability to be there for studio segments. As a result, he feels more like an adjunct contributor than a core member of the cast even though he's been getting more screen time in terms of filmed segments.
It looks like he will still be doing a "Chris Harris On Cars" type series, but it's for Top Gear and BBC has posted the first episode on their website.
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/chris-harris-drives-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio (http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/chris-harris-drives-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio)
Quote from: 68_427 on June 29, 2016, 04:23:04 AM
It looks like he will still be doing a "Chris Harris On Cars" type series, but it's for Top Gear and BBC has posted the first episode on their website.
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/chris-harris-drives-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio (http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives/chris-harris-drives-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio)
I watched that. More detailed & technical than could be used on the TV show, but he is fluent, intelligent, comfortable on camera, & doesn't do the children's TV yelling. I think he'd be a shoe-in for full time on the TV show. But my tastes are more niche car-oriented and with less interest in general entertainment. The stunts & the general entertainment are a big part of Top Gear & its success, Not sure how comfortable he'd be with that side of the show.
Quote from: MX793 on June 28, 2016, 07:37:58 PM
Unfortunate. The show was just starting to find its groove and much of the last season was pretty enjoyable.
Very unfortunate in my opinion. This last year the show was very much closer to the British Top Gear formula of "Three Mates Cocking About" than the new British version is.
Chris Evans has resigned from Top Gear.
Quote from: Rockraven on July 04, 2016, 09:10:26 AM
Chris Evans has resigned from Top Gear.
:clap: :dance: :muffin: :cheers:
What a clusterfuck.
Perfect. Now, give the keys to Reid Harris and Le Blanc full time.
Quote from: giant_mtb on July 04, 2016, 09:35:59 AM
What a clusterfuck.
Nah, he wasn't needed. It'll be a much better show with the remaining hosts filling the void.
Quote from: Rockraven on July 04, 2016, 09:39:42 AM
Nah, he wasn't needed. It'll be a much better show with the remaining hosts filling the void.
I agree. I wanted to like the guy but just couldn't warm up to him.
He was a poor fit for the show, like Jason Dawe of the 2002 reboot (remember him? He was replaced by May in the second season of the reboot). What aggravated the situation was that he was positioned as the primary host.
Chris Evans quits Top Gear, saying 'I gave it my best shot'
- Presenter understood to have made decision last week
- BBC sources say Evans became tired of the press sniping about the show
- Evans will keep his Radio 2 breakfast show
- Earlier this morning police confirmed a sexual assault probe, after allegations that Evans had groped a woman in the 1990s, which he denies
More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/chris-evans-to-leave-top-gear-after-police-launch-sexual-assault/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/chris-evans-to-leave-top-gear-after-police-launch-sexual-assault/)
Quote from: Morris Minor on July 04, 2016, 09:48:57 AM
Chris Evans quits Top Gear, saying 'I gave it my best shot'
- Presenter understood to have made decision last week
- BBC sources say Evans became tired of the press sniping about the show
- Evans will keep his Radio 2 breakfast show
- Earlier this morning police confirmed a sexual assault probe, after allegations that Evans had groped a woman in the 1990s, which he denies
More: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/chris-evans-to-leave-top-gear-after-police-launch-sexual-assault/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/chris-evans-to-leave-top-gear-after-police-launch-sexual-assault/)
That article would indicate that they are looking for a replacement for Evans rather than continue with the remaining hosts...
Quote from: MX793 on July 04, 2016, 10:01:48 AM
That article would indicate that they are looking for a replacement for Evans rather than continue with the remaining hosts...
And I read another article claiming that BBC will not be seeking out a replacement host.
That said, I just watched the season finale and it was legitimately good. Not as good as the best of classic Top Gear, but on par with an average Clarkson/May/Hammond episode. Even Evans' piece on the resto-modded MGB was good.
I'm watching it now. The NSX piece was good. Mustang piece was alright. It'd be so much better without Evans still.
Quote from: MX793 on July 05, 2016, 06:42:05 PM
And I read another article claiming that BBC will not be seeking out a replacement host.
That said, I just watched the season finale and it was legitimately good. Not as good as the best of classic Top Gear, but on par with an average Clarkson/May/Hammond episode. Even Evans' piece on the resto-modded MGB was good.
Now I want to buy an MGB. It would be more interesting than a Cobra kit car but still have great performance with an LS3 and suspension work.
An MGB without the trademark blowing-raspberries-to-the-world exhaust note would be lame.
Teaser for forthcoming output of W. Chump & Sons Ltd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Chump_and_Sons) under contract to Amazon Video:
http://youtu.be/xv9DlUBa8ko (http://youtu.be/xv9DlUBa8ko)
Unfortunately that's not real
It's been too long since I've watched Clarkson and the gang. I need to bing the previous seasons at some point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIuXeI1eRdk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIuXeI1eRdk)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/splash/TGTGuestlist
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LeBlanc/Harris/Reid are gonna be great. Studio was a bit awkward but I'm sure it'll improve as the season goes on. All the films were fantastic.
The new studio looked really good though
Is it coming to BBC America any time soon?
I figured LeBlanc, Harris, and Reid would make for a good show.
Only 2 things I think need work:
- Having the guest sit there awkwardly while the 3 chat is well, awkward. IIRC they delayed viewing of the lap way back on the old Top Gear as well and it kinda sucked then too.
- 3 cheers for bringing the old track back, but I'm not sure about the new car. I guess as long as they leave the ESP on it'll be alright, but it will kinda suck if everyone is losing it all the time. I think it was more fun watching them wring the shit out of a pedestrian shitbox.
Quote from: VTEC_Inside on March 08, 2017, 08:59:35 PM
- 3 cheers for bringing the old track back, but I'm not sure about the new car. I guess as long as they leave the ESP on it'll be alright, but it will kinda suck if everyone is losing it all the time. I think it was more fun watching them wring the shit out of a pedestrian shitbox.
We'll have to wait and see what happens on a dry lap. I don't think it'll be as out of control. Hopefully :lol:
Quote from: r0tor on March 08, 2017, 05:31:48 AM
Is it coming to BBC America any time soon?
You could have typed "bbc america top gear" into Google with less work.
But yes, Sunday.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/top-gear
New season is vastly better than the last with the cast pared back to just LeBlanc, Harris, and Reid. Just getting rid of Evans would have been enough, but I think they are better with just three main hosts instead of trying to find screen time for the others. I did kind of like Sabine, so hopefully she'll make a few guest appearances.
Chemistry still isn't quite up to what Clarkson, May, and Hammond had, but it's not bad. LeBlanc can seem a little wooden at times. I kind of like the new format of the SiaRPC where they have Harris serving as the instructor instead of Stig and actually have film footage of him riding along and instructing for a lap before they show the final fast lap. That and they ditch the "Reasonably Priced Car" for something with legitimate sporting cred (GT86). They also got rid of the rallycross style track in favor of the classic TG Test Track, which I also think was a smart move.
Quote from: MX793 on March 24, 2017, 02:39:09 PM
New season is vastly better than the last with the cast pared back to just LeBlanc, Harris, and Reid. Just getting rid of Evans would have been enough, but I think they are better with just three main hosts instead of trying to find screen time for the others. I did kind of like Sabine, so hopefully she'll make a few guest appearances.
Chemistry still isn't quite up to what Clarkson, May, and Hammond had, but it's not bad. LeBlanc can seem a little wooden at times. I kind of like the new format of the SiaRPC where they have Harris serving as the instructor instead of Stig and actually have film footage of him riding along and instructing for a lap before they show the final fast lap. That and they ditch the "Reasonably Priced Car" for something with legitimate sporting cred (GT86). They also got rid of the rallycross style track in favor of the classic TG Test Track, which I also think was a smart move.
She will ;)
Top Gear USA is coming back and MY GOD what was the thought process with the new hosts.... idfk
Joey needs to be fired from Top Gear... He and his complete utter boredom is the last thing standing in the way of a decent show
His Aston review this week was pretty good.
Really enjoyed the Pac-Man segment
Quote from: CaminoRacer on March 25, 2017, 03:50:54 PM
His Aston review this week was pretty good.
It was boring as shit
Oh for fucks sake... Joey does the review for the Ford GT :facepalm:
dumbed down review for a dumbed down supercar
Quote from: r0tor on April 01, 2017, 11:24:31 AM
Oh for fucks sake... Joey does the review for the Ford GT :facepalm:
Never liked that guy. Does he even know how to drive?
Quote from: FoMoJo on April 01, 2017, 02:35:31 PM
Never liked that guy. Does he even know how to drive?
No... But the video editing with stunt drivers makes it look like he might
Quote from: r0tor on April 01, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
No... But the video editing with stunt drivers makes it look like he might
He recorded the fastest ever time in the "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" segment. His time was also faster than any of the F1 drivers, granted the Cee'd he drove was a faster car than the Liana they drove. He's not pro-driver caliber like Harris, but I'll wager he can drive as well as any of the previous hosts.
Would be interesting if all three of the current hosts had run a lap in the GT86 as part of the starter group in the first episode of the season. See where they stack up against each other and the other celebs.
Quote from: MX793 on April 01, 2017, 04:19:23 PM
Would be interesting if all three of the current hosts had run a lap in the GT86 as part of the starter group in the first episode of the season. See where they stack up against each other and the other celebs.
I wish they had done that for every new car throughout the series.
New Top Gear America series started airing on BBCA a couple of weeks ago. I didn't realize it until this week when I was flipping through channels and happened to stumble across it. Watched the first 2 episodes On demand. Feels kind of rushed/compressed to fit within the commercial-laden hour timeslots of the American market. No real chemistry between the hosts, but they seem a little less corny than the previous trio. Not great. Not even as good as the new TGUK. I think it could have potential if handled correctly.
Grand Tour Season 2 now up on Amazon Prime!!!
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Why can't Grand Tour just do something that even loosely resembles a review anymore?
Is it still a bunch of old men making weird sex jokes?
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 08, 2017, 11:56:34 AM
Is it still a bunch of old men making weird sex jokes?
And dropping cars from a crane with an oversized button
Quote from: CaminoRacer on December 08, 2017, 11:56:34 AM
Is it still a bunch of old men making weird sex jokes?
I have decaled the word "Oceanus" on the side of my car, but when I open the door it reads "anus". Ha!
Quote from: MX793 on December 08, 2017, 12:37:32 PM
I have decaled the word "Oceanus" on the side of my car, but when I open the door it reads "anus". Ha!
brilliant
There was an actual car review this week!
Grand Tour season 2 is getting better and better :clap: :clap:
Loved Jaaaaaaaagg
Yeah that was a great episode.
I really liked the rally segment they did on this weeks show also
Rally segment was great. Would love a Group A documentary
:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBy6XRHPODQ
Really like that green on the Merc.
Apparently LeBlanc and Reid are both out as hosts and being replaced by two new guys for the season starting this summer. Reid will still be around to host Extra Gear (which I'm not sure BBC America even bothers to air anymore) and may appear as a guest (like Sabine) on the main show from time to time. Had no idea until I saw an ad for the upcoming summer season showing Harris and two other guys and I looked it up on the intertoobs. They didn't even mention that LeBlanc was leaving or give any kind of send-off in his final episode.
They need to just button this whole thing up and let Chris Harris go back to his YT gig.
TG new season is on right now... It feels so low rent
I don't think I've watched at all since the first non-Clarkson/May/Hammond season.
I couldn't finish the episode... Ran away about half way through
Essentially an entirely new cast, again, so I wasn't expecting it to be very good as chemistry between new hosts is seldom good out of the gate (remember the earliest season or two with Clarkson, Hammond, and May? It wasn't great) and often feels pretty forced. Hell, a couple of years in and the previous crew still felt a bit stiff. Was actually better than I expected. Not as good as the peak Clarkson/Hammond/May days, but the chemistry between the hosts out of the gate was better than the last crew ever had. The banter felt more genuine and less scripted. Felt much more like the old "couple of blokes who like cars having a good time" days. I think there's potential. Production values aren't as good as they used to be, though. Similar to the earlier days of Jezza, Hamster, and May before the show really became a phenomenon. Not terrible (better than any other automotive television program), but not what it used to be.